Good cheap plinker that isn't a .22lr


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Agent-J
November 19, 2008, 10:32 PM
What would be next on the list for cheap plinkers after the .22lr?

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Shade00
November 19, 2008, 10:33 PM
Eh.... kinda tough to do anything cheap now. Maybe a 9mm Hi-point carbine - I would say something in 5.45x39, but that's gone through the roof and so have the accompanying rifles.

Oh yeah, forgot about the Mosin Nagants. 7.62x54r is still pretty cheap.

thebucket
November 19, 2008, 10:36 PM
Next might be a HiPoint Carbine in 9mm but 9mm ammo is a good deal more expensive than .22LR. Still I think it's the next cheapest ammo out there. Of course shop around first. Or a Mosin-Nagant with cheap surplus ammo. Aimsurplus has 9mm running at $.16/round and 7.62x54R at $.18/round.

stevetford
November 19, 2008, 10:39 PM
Still enjoy my SKS for plinking, and ammo is still cheap and easy to find.

gvnwst
November 19, 2008, 10:40 PM
A 9mm carbine is the best bet. still cheap ammo, but really not that much better than .22lr, unless you want to hunt with it.

ainokea
November 19, 2008, 11:24 PM
Either a Kel-Tec Sub2000 in 9mm or SKS like someone else mentioned. Hi-Point carbine is good too.

BrianB
November 19, 2008, 11:27 PM
How about an officialRedRyder400shotleveractionairriflewithacompassinthestock!
or something in .22 short?

Seriously, that's a tough one at today's prices.

offthepaper
November 19, 2008, 11:33 PM
It doesn't go boom, but have you ever considered a quality air rifle? There's cheap shooting that can be amazingly accurate. But there are some who will post that's not "real" shooting. Also great for teaching kids.

duck911
November 19, 2008, 11:37 PM
It doesn't go boom, but have you ever considered a quality air rifle? There's cheap shooting that can be amazingly accurate. But there are some who will post that's not "real" shooting. Also great for teaching kids.

Those folks who say it's not real shooting (probably) have never owned a quality air rifle.

--Duck911

gunmaker2872
November 19, 2008, 11:55 PM
i picked up a sub 2000 in 9mm glock and couldnt be happier:D

MaterDei
November 20, 2008, 12:04 AM
.22LR, there is no substitute.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
November 20, 2008, 01:36 AM
Something in .17 HMR or .22 mag. Or a levergun in .375 mag/ .38 spl. Or 9mm carbine.

gunmaker2872
November 20, 2008, 01:42 AM
if you really want yourself a shooter, grab a 10 22 and convert it into 17 hm2, i did and the 17hm2 is now one of my favorite rounds, its far superior to 22lr an every way:evil:

BullpupBen
November 20, 2008, 01:44 AM
.38 spl/.357 lever-action carbine, keltec sub2000 9mm or high point 995, etc.

mstirton
November 20, 2008, 01:52 AM
CZ52 comes closest.

zombienerd
November 20, 2008, 01:53 AM
Oh yeah, forgot about the Mosin Nagants. 7.62x54r is still pretty cheap.

Everyone forgets about the little mosin's :) I'm picking up one of them as soon as the Xmas bonus comes through... Even the rough ones are still worth the Sub $100 price tag you can get... I really look forward to trying it out :)

I will plug this site again, as they seem to keep them in stock:
http://www.tickbitesupply.com/firearms.html

Almond27
November 20, 2008, 01:55 AM
SKS or AK just tons of fun and they will be cheaper again when all the panic settles.

mr.trooper
November 20, 2008, 02:14 AM
Plinking with a 7.62x54R? your shoulders mush be made of iron...

TAB
November 20, 2008, 02:33 AM
Just a FYI... all the commie block ammo that is so cheap now, may go away with the stroke of a pin. Just a FYI. if that happends 7.62x39 is going to go up the fallowing second.

Anteater1717
November 20, 2008, 03:03 AM
SKS!!!

JimmAr
November 20, 2008, 03:07 AM
Plinking with world war 2 weapons is the most fun.

8mm mauser..

7.62x54R..

Good times.

You can get crates of either usually ranging off into the 450-700 rounds for around 100 dollars..

Almond27
November 20, 2008, 04:47 AM
Ok just a point of mine I can go cycle 300 rounds through either my Romanian WASR 10/63 or my Russian SKS. I don't think many people would want to plink 300 rounds of Mosin Nagant ammo though.

Golden Hound
November 20, 2008, 06:20 AM
I was gonna say...the word "plinking" doesn't even begin to describe the amount of noise and recoil produced by a Mosin Nagant. The Mosin is a "blasting" rifle. Keep in mind that the Russians are a cold-weather people and this rifle was intended to be fired by soldiers wearing very thick woolen coats over several other layers of clothing. Under these circumstances, they could have gone all day with one of those things. But the average guy at the range, wearing a T-shirt or a light jacket, forget it. 100 rounds and you may as well take a meat tenderizer to your shoulder.

camxrr
November 20, 2008, 08:21 AM
Agree 100% offthepaper/duck911. I take my RWS 48 .22 cal to the range quite often. If it's not too windy it's surgical. Also pellets are 200 for 15 bux for the good stuff!

Have mine for well over 10 years and still looks new and shoots even better.

Happy plinking

RX-178
November 20, 2008, 08:50 AM
Some people would argue that it's a GOOOOOOD pain from their Mosins.

...I'm not one of them. But they are fun to shoot, and in some cases, watch others on the range flinch from YOUR shots.

Seriously, in El Paso, the rifle range occasionally gets dominated by returning Soldiers from Fort Bliss with ARs. Squeeze off a round from a Mosin on that firing line, and watch everyone flinch away and look in your direction.... :D

jackstinson
November 20, 2008, 08:59 AM
It doesn't go boom, but have you ever considered a quality air rifle?
A Pre-Charged Pneumatic air rifle does most certainly go BOOM if you don't have a suppressor on it. Try firing a 9mm or .50 caliber air rifle at full power and you will hear the boom ;) ... Heck, I've owned .177, .20, and .22 PCP air rifles which made more noise (without a suppressor) than my .22 rimfires. PCP's are loud.
But yes, a spring-powered or a low-power CO2 air rifle is cheap to shoot, fun, and quiet. I've got a couple dozen of them.
As for firearms....nothing is as anywhere near as inexpensive to shoot as a .22 rimfire. 9mm would be the next up the line, but 10 times the price per shot for even the cheap stuff (Blazer or Russian).
Plinking with 7.62x54? Ouch!! That hurts to think about. Cheap though.
I love plinking with an AK, but it's not what I consider cheap at $7+ per 30-round magazine load. That same $7.00 will put 275 Federal bulk .22's through a Ruger 10/22 with 30-rounders.
Tin cans and paper do not care what size hole is made nor how many foot pounds of energy are there.

mgkdrgn
November 20, 2008, 09:11 AM
i picked up a sub 2000 in 9mm glock and couldnt be happier:D

If I ever found one of those I'd be sorely tempted ... or maybe a "camp gun" of some sort in 45 Colt.

earplug
November 20, 2008, 09:18 AM
Has anyone run the numbers for cost per round for a small bore percussion rifle?

earlthegoat2
November 20, 2008, 09:25 AM
sks rifle

jackstinson
November 20, 2008, 12:22 PM
Has anyone run the numbers for cost per round for a small bore percussion rifle?
Black powder is a blast, but not as inexpensive per shot as it may seem....even casting your own round balls from scrap lead and knapping your own flints...the powder is getting pricey.
Most inexpensive is flintlock and learning to knap your own flints. It'll save the cost of a percussion cap.
Balls per pound is what bore gauge is based upon, so my .50 flintlock gets about 32 good round balls from a pound of lead after dross and sprues. Figure that's about $.023 per shot. A good plinking load on that rifle is 60 grains of fffg black powder, add another 5 grains for priming...about $ .185 per shot. Add maybe $.005 per shot for patching material and you get about 23 cents total cost per shot. I figure 28 cents on my .69 and .72 muskets, and maybe only 20 cents a shot for my .36 squirrel rifle. About the same as 7.62x39 Russian.
Black powder isn't cheap. But you shoot FAR FAR less money out the end of the bore in two hours of black powder plinking than in two hours of AK plinking, even though cost per shot is about equal....because it takes time to load black powder between each shot. It's very zen-like also.

gunmaker2872
November 20, 2008, 04:19 PM
im quite surprised that i am the only one who has mentioned the 17 hm2 ?, its cheap its fast and its got the power

gandog56
November 20, 2008, 04:29 PM
Red Ryder BB gun

goon
November 20, 2008, 04:33 PM
I don't own one and I don't even know if this could work...
But I wonder if a Marlin 1894 .32 H&R mag might not work out to be a reloadable .22.
You could shoot your lead into a trap and re-cast the bullets so it would only cost you powder and primers.
I find the idea of it interesting anyway.

woof
November 20, 2008, 04:44 PM
I think this requires a definition of plinking. I also agree that those who say an air rifle is not real shooting have never had a quality air rifle. But then a quality air rifle is far from cheap. All that said, what the heck is wrong with a .22LR? You have the variety od sub sonic stuff, cheap bulk, many grades of match ammo, and all of it less costly than centerfire. .22LR is synonymous with plinking.

goon
November 20, 2008, 10:11 PM
Agreed.
Why NOT use the .22?
I love the .22.

Long live the .22!

Ratshooter
November 20, 2008, 11:13 PM
Goon you are right about the 32 mag. I have one and its a blast to shoot. Full power 85 gr loads go over 1900 fps and 76gr loads with 2.2grs of titegroup go 900fps and are as quiet as CB 22s. The only thing wrong with this gun is that it weighs more than my 357 or 44 mag Marlin because of the octagon barrel.

A 22lr is the king of plinkers and always will be.

maxxwilde
November 21, 2008, 12:20 AM
Why NOT use the .22?
I love the .22.

Long live the .22!

Maybe a better question would be, "What is the .22 lacking that the original poster wants to rectify in his NEXT plinker?" Longer range? More power? Also, do you mean "cheap" as in ammo costs, or "cheap" as in rifle costs?
Just trying to clarifu things so we can give him a better idea of what he might like...


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Jubjub
November 21, 2008, 12:36 AM
Probably for a non reloader, one of the commie rounds or a 9mm carbine.

For a reloader, a Marlin 336 in .35 Remington. You can shoot cast 158 grain bullets over 10 grains of Unique for not a lot of money. A bit of recoil, good groups, brass lands in a little easy to collect pattern. Hard to beat. And it's an awesome short range deer gun with full power loads.

22-rimfire
November 21, 2008, 09:58 AM
No such thing as an inexpensive plinker in a center fire with factory ammunition unless you are pretty darn comfortable financially. But to each his own. That is what makes the world go around. My idea of cheap entertainment is not going to the range or your favorite shooting spot and blowing away a few hundred dollars worh of ammunition. I think about the cost when I shoot match 22 ammunition. That probably explains why I squeek when I walk.

ArmedBear
November 21, 2008, 11:12 AM
Marlin 1894C, and a reloading press.

Of course, the gun's not cheap...

QuietEarp
November 22, 2008, 09:36 PM
What the heck is wrong with .22lr? It is perfect for plinking. Any other time I am plinking with my other firearms it is not cheap. 9mm and 7.62x39 are not cheap in my world. 1000 rounds for $30 vs 1000 rounds for $200. When I bought a box of .22 mag I appreciated the .22lr so much more.

CU74
November 23, 2008, 12:03 AM
If "plinking" means shooting lots of rounds without shoulder pain with a relatively inexpensive rifle and ammo:
- Marlin 1894C (.38Special/.357 Mag)
- M1 Carbine (.30 Carbine)
- Marlin Camp 9 (9mm Luger/Parabellum)

Reload and/or buy bulk ammo. Professionally reloaded ammo is often a good deal (such as Georgia Arms "Canned Heat"). The CMP has lots of .30 Carbine ammo at a good price.

JImbothefiveth
November 23, 2008, 12:09 AM
9mm is probably the cheapest non-milsurp, non rimfire round there is. (Although I think 9mm milsurp is available, but I'm not sure if it's corrosive.)

Seafarer12
November 23, 2008, 12:15 AM
If you reload a 357 lever action is the way to go. Another good plinker nobody had mentioned is AR you can reload 223 dirt cheap, or an AR with a 9mm upper.

moosehunt
November 23, 2008, 12:29 AM
Gunmaker--how well does you 10/22 converted to .17 Mach 2 cycle? That's really been my only hesitation. Any problems? How about switching back and forth to the.22 barrel for cheaper shooting at times? Doable?

hawmanai
November 23, 2008, 02:17 PM
I have picked up a pellet rifle for plinking.

It's a 25 caliber break barrel and it makes a nice thump when it hits.

Got this one HERE (http://www.pyramydair.com/p/walther-falcon-air-rifle.shtml)

But it is too loud to shoot in the backyard and a ricochet sounds like a 223.

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