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iyn
November 20, 2008, 05:51 PM
I can buy only one more firearm. ( I'm married) I have one 1911 and one SW revolver both in .45acp. I live in the city. with the threat of losing the right to buy any more guns, what would be the best way to go. another handgun? Rifle? Shotgun? carbine that uses .45acp?

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hso
November 20, 2008, 05:56 PM
Doesn't HI have a state AWB? If so, an SU16. If not, an AR in .45.

MGshaggy
November 20, 2008, 06:45 PM
I can buy only one more firearm.

Yeah, I told myself that once also...but that was at least 20-30 guns ago.:D

I'd go for a rifle. If you can get an AR15 in HI, that would be my choice. Even if its your last gun, perhaps you can still buy different uppers for different calibers.

bmxr4life87
November 20, 2008, 08:11 PM
rifle or shotgun

BullpupBen
November 20, 2008, 08:13 PM
If you REALLY cant buy anymore guns, then I'd say get something a little more capable for home defense. Either a .45 ACP carbine or a shotgun. Living in the city you probably dont go to outdoor ranges much, if ever, so a real rifle might not be much fun.

Bill2e
November 20, 2008, 08:28 PM
Tommy Gun:neener:

Probally not the best HD carbine, but same caliber & I really want one:evil:

CU74
November 20, 2008, 11:07 PM
I live in the city.

May I suggest you think about a shotgun for home defense? A 20 gauge loaded with #4 buckshot makes a good Social Work implement with reduced chances of unintended consequences. Rifles, and handguns to a somewhat lesser extent, can easily punch holes through your walls and on into a neighbor's house.:eek:

(I prefer a 12 gauge loaded with #1 buck, but then I don't live in the city.)

Working Man
November 20, 2008, 11:16 PM
A .357 like a Ruger GP100 is always a good choice.

zombienerd
November 20, 2008, 11:23 PM
Maybe something like this?

http://www.masterpiecearms.com/proddetail.php?prod=MPA1SST-A&cat=10

45 cal carbine...

BBQLS1
November 20, 2008, 11:48 PM
HD shotgun or a carbine.

CB900F
November 21, 2008, 10:05 AM
iyn;

To me, a shotgun would make the most sense. Specifically, an 870 home defense, which IMHO is a mis-nomer. It's an excellent choice in vehicle to vehicle confrontations also. And LEO's, for some reason, seem to get their shorts in a knot quicker over a handgun in the car than a shottie.

900F

MIL-DOT
November 21, 2008, 10:10 AM
I concur, a 5-shot, pump action shotgun.They're lethal, reliable,fun to shoot,and aren't listed in HR1022, so shouldn't be affected by a new AW ban should one materialize.

j_charles
November 21, 2008, 11:45 AM
My vote goes for Shotgun. If that's the last thing you get, than that's your best bet for effective home defense, and most versitile choice. That's what I would do if I were in your shoes. As it is, a shotgun, and a .22 rifle, are the next things in my list anyway.

NWGunner
November 21, 2008, 01:36 PM
2 of your "3 bases" are missing. I believe the shotgun would have greater utility than a rifle, assuming you live in an urban area.

The fun side of my brain says FN SLP. The practical side says 8-shot pump Mossbarg 500 "Security" or Remington 870 Police.

MIL-DOT
November 21, 2008, 08:43 PM
Good choices, to be sure, but again,I'd recommend going with the 5-shot magazine as it's not listed on the latest ban legislation.

Kind of Blued
November 21, 2008, 09:04 PM
If you can legally do so in Hawaii, I'd suggest an AR-15 or some sort of high-capacity-capable rifle. Anything from a Mini 14 to a FAL.

Everybody needs a "fightin' rifle".

Of course, it depends on what you want to do with the gun.

goon
November 21, 2008, 11:27 PM
In your situation I'd probably also go with the shotgun in either 20 or 12 gauge.
Personally, I prefer a lever action rifle for HD but a 30-30 isn't the greatest choice for an urban defense gun.

maddog1775
November 22, 2008, 02:08 AM
There is no AWB in Hi. The only real restriction is a 10 round capacity limit on pistol mags (paradoxically, any size rifle mag is legal). Last I checked, Magnum Firearms in Honolulu was fully stocked on EBRs and shotguns, so you can handle several different models before making a choice.

Don't know how well stocked the other stores are right now, though.

iyn
November 22, 2008, 02:09 AM
I read a pump shot gun is more reliable in reguards to shooting a wide range of ammo. I've read about the 870, but the military uses the mossburg 590. what's the difference between the 2? I have short arms so I need a short stock. I've been told for HD the less "tactical" looking the better in court. do they make short stocks for both?

goon
November 22, 2008, 09:20 AM
There is no AWB in Hi. The only real restriction is a 10 round capacity limit on pistol mags (paradoxically, any size rifle mag is legal). Last I checked, Magnum Firearms in Honolulu was fully stocked on EBRs and shotguns, so you can handle several different models before making a choice.

Don't know how well stocked the other stores are right now, though.

I was not aware of that. I guess you learn something new every day.

Iyn - you might want to check out some youth model shotguns. They already come with shorter stocks installed. I don't know how well you can handle recoil but a 20 gauge may be a better place to start for a new shooter.
On the Mossberg versus Remington debate, that one is ongoing. Both are good guns and that's why you'll find so many comparisons between the two. You'll just have to handle both and see what you like best.

Mike J
November 22, 2008, 11:38 AM
I'd vote shotgun. Another plus to the Remington 870 or Mossberg 500 is that if you buy it for self/home defence you can get it with a shorter barrel but if later on you decided you wanted to use it to hunt or shoot skeet or whatever else you can get more barrels, choke tubes, etc. for what ever purpose for a reasonable price. Shotguns are the tupperware of firearms.

maddog1775
November 22, 2008, 06:07 PM
I was not aware of that. I guess you learn something new every day.
Here's the really annoying part: manufacturers know that there is a capacity limit for pistol mags, so they assume the rifle mags are illegal too. I am still trying to find a company that will ship AR and AK mags to me. As it is, I can buy them at a gun store, but they cost an arm and a leg.

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