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HDon
November 22, 2008, 03:49 PM
Anything interesting this weekend? Prices good, bad, or otherwise.

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A.M. Baer
November 22, 2008, 03:54 PM
Not this weekend, last weekend. It was packed! I was working as I usually do serving food to the guests and vendors, at great prices! We made over a $1000 of profit. The vendors sold tons of stuff; at the beginning of the show, there were tons of firearms, ammo and magazines, by the end there were few firearms, no ammo and no magazines. I got an Ishapore 2A in great shape for $200. Some prices were good, some were great, some were average and some were terrible.

Oh, the local Joe's sporting goods place is selling an Ishapore 2A in worse condition than mine for $700.

Walkalong
November 22, 2008, 04:08 PM
Most prices in Montgomery Al. were not good. Some deals were to be found.

I saw a WASR - $700 :eek:

But, a fellow in front of me picked up a very nice Romanian AR for $450 walking away. Good deal.

Bushy $950 on one table $1200 on another. M&P's the same way.

STAG and DOUBLESTAR stripped lowers - $269 & $279 :what:

Very nice 4" blue Ruger Speed Six - $385

A few good deals around in pistol, but a bad time for laying out cash. Picked up another USA SS 30 Round Mini 14 for $25. Bought a couple thou primers from the guy I usually buy from. Plenty of cool stuff to look at. A 2 1/2" Python that was pristine. The fellow SAID he was not going to sell it. I know I can't swing it, so who cares. A broom handle mauser with a stock and a long barrel that was really cool.

tblt
November 22, 2008, 04:10 PM
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tubeshooter
November 22, 2008, 04:14 PM
I just got back from one in central NC. It was the first time I ever remember waiting in line to get in, and my buddies said the same.

I expected higher prices, but these were more than I could bring myself to do. I wasn't really in the market for anything but maybe a beater SKS I could use for parts if needed. The going rate was about $350 for a Yugo, and about $450 for a Russian or Chinese.

Used, plain jane Remington 870s were starting at $300. You can get a new one for $239 at Dick's with their current special.

Lots of the more common ammo was either unavailable or borderline unreasonably priced. I saw a 700 round tin of x39 for $170. They also wanted $23 for a brick of Blazer .22.


No thanks - I think I'll wait for the hype to die down. Fortunately I had bought stuff earlier and wasn't in dire need of anything.


[EDIT: I feel I should mention that I have not been to a show in about 6 years or so, and am probably a bit more susceptible to "sticker shock" than someone who buys stuff often. My expectations on pricing could be a bit outdated.]

denfoote
November 22, 2008, 04:33 PM
I haven't been to one in years!!
The last time I was, there was a virtual sea of red and blue bandannas!! :eek:

ants
November 22, 2008, 04:45 PM
After reading all the hype on this Forum about idiotic panic buying and empty shelves, our gun show had table after table after table of hi-cap magazines, black rifles, ammo, reloading supplies, accessories and all the usual stuff. Most prices were about the same (which means gun show prices are already pumped up) and maybe 5% price increases overall, but nothing panic driven.

Lots of ammo was sold, but the whole panic-buying talk may be just a few people unwisely making a lot of loud noise.

craig
November 22, 2008, 05:00 PM
i probably went to my last show today.

i can now understand why some dealers go out of business.

when you look at a price tag that still has the old price readable and the new price is $100 to $400 more depending on model that tells me all i need to know about that dealer.

it seems most of the dealers at the shows i go to have never heard of the internet and how you can check prices before you go.:rolleyes:

every now and then you can find a deal from a private seller, but the bst forums and the internet seem to be the way to go.

the one i like best is how a gun can sit at the dealer for almost 2 years and go UP in price.:rolleyes:

Archie
November 22, 2008, 05:07 PM
I went to a local gunshow in Glendale, PDSR California on 15th November. I bought a sleeve of primers (WSP) for $105 plus tax. That's higher than before, but they've been gradually increasing and I'm not sure if that's more than usual these days.

Found a number of interesting older pistols and revolvers. A couple of pre-64 Winchester Model 70s and one very nice pre-64 Winchester Model 94. None of the guns were outrageous either high or low, to my mind.

PDSR California doesn't allow 'assault weapons', so there are no ARs for sale and I'm not really interested anyway. One can find uppers and barrels and all the assorted doodads, but they aren't in my field.

I saw some friends, looked in vain for some more books for my library - oops, found two on Pre-Columbian American history - and found another set of Herrett grips for a K frame S&W.

Nothing real exciting, but better than mowing the lawn.

jkingrph
November 22, 2008, 06:52 PM
Not this weekend, but last, over in Jackson, Ms. There were lines waiting to get in and we got there early. Local folks said they had never seen anything like it, the place was packed 20 minutes after opening.

I did get lucky and found some 32-20 ammo I had been unable to find at home, Lousiana or Georgia, although I will admit I was not looking hard.

Lawnman380
November 22, 2008, 07:11 PM
Suncoast gunshow, Lakeland Fl, packed with people. Heard the fire dept closed it for a while, too many people...

caseypj
November 22, 2008, 07:47 PM
Hopefully the Suncoast show in Ft. Myers won't be over crowded this December, I'm afraid to go see what the prices will be.

Gunnerpalace
November 22, 2008, 08:37 PM
Not gunshow related but Cheaper Than Dirt is charging 40 bucks for pmags.

Fat Boy
November 22, 2008, 08:42 PM
Wichita; lots of people in attendance, lots of buying/selling going on, from all appearances....I got there at 9:15am, when I left at 11:15am the line waiting to get in was at least as long as it was when I arrived...

GEM
November 22, 2008, 09:01 PM
Small show in San Antonio - total crapfest. Very few well stocked gun tables. Mostly junk. Maybe about 10 EBRs with prices raises about $200-300.

Handguns prices up to that of stores like Academy. In fact, Academy had a couple of M4 ish guns for their normal prices and said they would get more. Plenty of Glocks, Berettas, SW at their regular prices which are good for stores. They had 9mm for sale - Blazer Al for $7.99 / 50.

So the show wasn't worth the entry price - not going to do that one again. :barf:

BTW, I then went to the coin show - hardly any tables or dealers - clobbered by the economy.

HDon
November 22, 2008, 09:02 PM
Very long lines, big crowds, little space from what I saw. Took a good while just to get in, then waited in line at every table. The show venue should've opened up at least one additional area (the building looked to have the space available). This seems like it could've made things better for the crowd and the vendors.

Prices were at a premium. The 700 rounds tins of Hotshot were around $170. Cheapest 7.62x39 per 20 rnd box was $5.00 (most had it priced at $6 per box). WASRs cut outs were $500+ (one guy had a few single stacks for $400) Couple of Norinco underfolders were priced over a grand each. Thumb hole Bulgy's were $800. ARs were $800-$1500+ (didn't pay any attention to which manuf.). SKS's were $300 for Romanian, $450 for Russian. Most of the guns were pistols, shotguns and milsurp stuff. Centerfire rifles especially lever guns were few and far between, asking prices were generally $600+ 9x18 Wolf was $12.50 / 50. A Bulgarian Makarov was $345.

Carry ins from the public seemed pricey too. Saw a guy that had a SAR-1 that claimed it only had a little less than 1000 rnds through it wanted $1100. A fellow had an H&R SS in .44 mag, looked a little beat up and maybe shortened(?) wanted $200...I probably should've taken, but didn't need.

Left empty.

SLCscottie
November 23, 2008, 01:07 AM
Gun Show at Salt Lake City:

Longest Line I have ever seen at this one. Price to get in went from $8 to $10. Most who got there early went for ammo. There was no system for who was in line for the ammo. It was almost looking like the stock market pit. I couldn't get help and two guys waiting started arguing. An hour or two later we were able to get help without a line. 7.62 X 39 Wolf Military Classic $259 plus tax for 1000 rounds. Ouch! One guy earlier in the morning had to have spent a couple thousand dollars for an assortment of ammo. I couldn't tell if he was buying for friends or just himself.

Someone later mentioned they planned for 9,000 people but got 12,000 the first day. I don't know if there is any accuracy in that.

Walkalong
November 23, 2008, 10:51 AM
I saw a 35 or 40 round polymer AR mag with a $100 tag on it. Ridiculous, but like I said, some folks prices were not to bad. Not all are gouging, most are just bumping them up a bit while demand is so high.

There was lots of ammo, and it was mostly priced reasonably.

Mike OTDP
November 23, 2008, 02:27 PM
I was at the Chantilly, VA show this weekend. Packed. ARs plentiful but expensive. AKs scarce, also expensive. Ammo was flying out the door...people were bring in hand carts. PMags were running $20, but were in good supply.

Ohio Rifleman
November 23, 2008, 02:34 PM
Just got back from the gun show. It was pretty crowded, but no worse than it has been. Ammo prices weren't too outrageous, though I saw a brick of 60 rounds of 7.5x55 Swiss selling for $55. I bought a brick at another table for $20 less.

Lots of folks carrying SKSs and AKs. I didn't look too much at guns, but there didn't seem to be many EBRs. The usual Mosins and other milsurps were there, prices generally unchanged. Lots of .223 and .308 for sale.

Rossshady120
November 23, 2008, 02:42 PM
thanks to **** ass obama i have to wait in line and **** is overpriced i mite as well not even go and wait the 5 days at my gun store.

novaDAK
November 23, 2008, 02:52 PM
1000 table gun show in Chantilly, VA and no one had ANY AKs anywhere. Last show I went to in July lots of dealers had them starting at $350.

Line to get in was very long even several hours after the show opened.

D Boone
November 23, 2008, 10:25 PM
Central NC today, and was a pretty poor show from my standpoint. Ammo must have all gone first thing Sat., Didn't seem to be much at all left. Saw one stripped AR Lower for $400! There were some assembled doublestar lowers at another table for $500! There were a few AR's left, but don't remember seeing any under 1k. The few AK's there were running high, $600-1400 for some Norinco. Mags all seemed high, I picked up a few Circle Kay mags for 14 a piece, gotta buy something right! PMags were pricey 20+ and AK mags about the same.

KINGMAX
November 23, 2008, 10:31 PM
I went to the Raleigh - Dixie Gun & Knife Show today, as always still the same ole stuff, I spent a whole $17.00, 7 to get in, 5 for 2 GLOCK frizbees for my dog and 5 for a zipper gun rug. Everything else was over priced. NOT TOO GOOD

LJH
November 23, 2008, 11:17 PM
I have given up on the Austin Gun Show. Even before the election prices were on the high side. The election has not helped. Only about three vendors had decent prices with not much of a selection. The entire event gave me the feeling of being in a giant pawn shop that only had reject guns at higher than new prices. An example; a much mis-treated Vangard for $595, this included rust and stripped out scope threads. I stopped by a big box store on the way home and picked up a new one with a Pentax scope and a box of ammo for $550 out the door.

Caveat Emptor

marktx
November 23, 2008, 11:37 PM
Small show in San Antonio - total crapfest......Maybe about 10 EBRs with prices raises about $200-300.....So the show wasn't worth the entry price - not going to do that one again.....

I thought there was a pretty good supply of EBRs at the show, not that any reasonable person would pay $1400 for Bushmaster carbine or $700 for a WASR. The ammo prices were particularly amusing.... there was a guy selling battle packs of German 7.62x51 for $250. There were a few people that were apparently just showing stuff which I don't get at all, why would someone pay for a table just to drag out a bunch of stuff that isn't for sale?

rmmoore
November 24, 2008, 03:27 AM
Went to a Show in Cheyenne a couple weeks ago. On Friday night I saw more folks than on some Saturday afternoons. Saturday was a zoo. So was Sunday. There was a smaller one in Cheyenne this weekend to raise money for a local youth shooting league. They were expecting @500 people the enitre weekend, Saturday and Sunday only; they had more than that by 1pm Saturday afternoon. Business has been booming; some good deals, some not. About like usual really. The not-so-good deals were from the same guys who make the circuit and RARELY have 'deals' anyway. Just more crowded and less to choose from are about the only real differences I've seen, so far. But, I'm glad to see people out stimulating the economy with gun purchases :D

rmmoore
November 24, 2008, 03:34 AM
Hey marktx, they were hoping someone would see it and just couldn't live without it. At that point, money is no object and common sense has evaporated. Almost everything is for sale, if the price is high enough. Does the term "a fool and his money are soon parted" and "a sucker born every minute" ring any bells? If you want to sell something to someone who REALLY REALLY wants it, tell him it's NOT for sale and watch him go absolutely CRAZY trying to buy it, while you laugh all the way to the bank!!!!!

ColinthePilot
November 24, 2008, 03:54 AM
I didn't hit any shows this weekend, but a few friends did. They were somewhere around San Angelo, TX. My friend was going in search of an AR, his girlfriend looking for an AK. Neither walked away with those. He walked out with a 12ga pump shotty, forget what make or model. He called me to ask what a good price for a Sig P6 is. I told him not to spend more than $350, since I paid $325 for mine in great condition and then kicked myself when I saw them going for below $300 (a few months ago). He couldn't find one below $400. He reported $200+ for stripped lowers, and $1200+ for the handful of AR's he found. Not much in the black rifle department. Glad I got mine back when Lowers were $120.

MagnumDweeb
November 24, 2008, 01:30 PM
It's sad when the local pawnshop that buys/sell cars, jewelry, motorcycles, power tools(oh they have great power tool selections, I'm stashing all my loose change [about ten bucks a week] for when the AWB comes so I can stock up on power drills, dremmels, mill presses), televisions, on and on, can beat not only gunshow prices by a mile but also gunbroker prices on occassion. Granted they are almost out of hanguns as folks have discovered the only real pawnshop that sells guns for almost ten miles from the shop. But I saw a Smith 629 6" going for 529.99, not a great price but the gun was in great condition with a bright bore and seemingly flawless mechanics. Got a CETME from them for $550 out the door lock and stock. If I don't go back to them and buy their only two Mosin Nagants (I'll offer them $120 for both) and stock up on 2k+ ammo I'll take four hundred with me to the next gunshow in Jan for private purchases.

The only real reason to go to gunshows in my area anymore it seems is to do private purchases (asking 30-40% below retail), saw one of my old College professors selling his Kimber something or other for $600 after he spent $800 to get it five years ago and had never really shot it.

I'm waiting for the one in March when people who made purchases they couldn't afford are trying to unload them for 75% of their original purchase.

f4t9r
November 24, 2008, 02:17 PM
Prices high , No AR 15 to be had , People with no expierience with guns doing what I call panic buying.
Elbow to elbow in every aisle.

flor1
November 24, 2008, 02:29 PM
In 2 to 3 months the prices and availability will fall back to what they were befor. We've been through this whole seen befor with the Clinton's mark my word's prices will come back down. If a new ban is introduced it won't go into effect for a year at the earlyest. By then most of the people who are panic buying will be out of money and then you can buy for pennies on the dollar.

stevemis
November 24, 2008, 06:57 PM
Picked up a DPMS AR 15 stripped lower for $168.99 plus tax after seeing dozens of dealers asking $300-$400 for exactly the same thing.

I've never had to wait more than 5 minutes to get into the building at the Raleigh show. Saturday afternoon at around 1pm the wait was about 40 minutes, and they had two sets of lines. See the pic.

The guy behind me in line had an AR 15 for sale. Someone walked up to him, asked him if it was for sale, then what's the price... then... get this... "WHAT IS IT?"

What a nightmare...

Steve

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