September 19, 2003, 02:35 AM
...why do you continue to frequent?
I know many have read the Rules of Conduct and understand why this forum exists. I know many , like myself, were members of The Firing Line. Many belong to other forums, including firearms and RKBA, or something totally different.
I was having an discussion about the "Technology Gap" often referred to as the " Digital Divide", and the discussion got me to thinking. Before computers and the Internet, people would gather at the town square, barber/beauty shop, coffee shop...etc., and discuss various subjects. Often many would gather with like-minded folks to share like minded views. Granted people still do, but with the 'Net , the "gathering" places have expanded. So...
Why are you here at THR? Why do you continue to frequent?
Oleg, Administrators, Moderators, Staff : Same question for you folks. I know many were doing these jobs at TFL, some perform similar duties on other forums. I for one appreciate all you do, I know there has to more than an occasional thank you from members for the tireless effort, time, and headaches to keep a site up and running.
THR is a bit over nine months old...just curious, perhaps people came for one reason...continue to stay for another.
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September 19, 2003, 03:25 AM
Good question. I am registered at many RKBA type boards and lurk at most of them on and off. This is the only board that I post at with any frequency. I think the name here says alot about why I post here and spend time reading this board. I certainly appreciate the fact that I can let my family (wife and kids) read what goes on here and not be too ashamed at what someone else posts. Most here go out of their way to be polite and clean in how they present things.Even retarded people seem to have no trouble using four letters words with some skill. It takes a better comunicator to get the message accross with out trash talk, and most here seem to do a good job. If I could find a good coffee or gun shop to hang out at, I would, but so far I find nothing to compare to THR. Just a few thoughts...
September 19, 2003, 04:35 AM
I enjoy the intelligent conversation and the diversity of thought offered by THR members. You have the wise old wisdom types through the radical emotional types. This "spread" of beliefs makes for some very interesting threads in addition to being a "thinktank" on firearms in general. The moderators seem to be pretty fair minded and tolerant. THR (like TFL) is the only forum I am a member of, the others seem second rate at best.
September 19, 2003, 04:51 AM
One word....INFORMATION. :) When it comes to firearms, THR is the best source for fast answers IMHO.
Its not the "warmest" forum on the net, but I respect the vision. ;) Just my 2.
September 19, 2003, 05:34 AM
Besides INFORMATION, after a hard stress full day
it offer's a little R&R. Plus I like all the camaraderie.
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
September 19, 2003, 06:46 AM
Information and lively discussion! I was a TFL member but came to guns fairly recently via traditional archery if you can believe that, and need to learn, learn learn! THis is THE place!
September 19, 2003, 06:54 AM
Because most gunshops wouldn't want me hanging around bending their collective ears and drinking their coffee all day ;)
It is also very difficult to find so many gun aficionados in one place.
For years I visited the newsgroups talk.politics.guns, rec.guns and tx.guns
and found that the trolls, abuse and lack of timely responses were frustrating to say the least.
The Firing Line and The High Road has filled the need to talk about my favorite subject.
Maybe once in a while I can accurately answer a question or two
and help someone else out based on my own experiences.
September 19, 2003, 06:54 AM
Information and Civility.
September 19, 2003, 07:03 AM
All of the above :D :cool:
September 19, 2003, 07:26 AM
Ditto all of the above -
Why reinvent the wheel? Folks here are happy to share their experiences and knowledge, and do so in a very nice way. You can get all the information you need, and if you press the point, more than you could use in a lifetime.
Moderators do an excellent job.
I usually read it early in the morning, at noon, and in the evening.
September 19, 2003, 07:26 AM
I'm here for the sharing of well-spoken, interactive, moderated, firearms info and
it's a short drive to get here, with a
comfortable seat, or simply -
"I came for the waters."
September 19, 2003, 07:53 AM
Many of my friends are familiar with guns, but few have the depth of knowledge that can be found within this forum. I could talk guns to this extent at a good gun shop perhaps, but I'm sure they'd want me to buy something or move on after a few weeks of leaning on thier display case.:D :D
September 19, 2003, 07:59 AM
Obsessive-compulsive disorder :D
September 19, 2003, 08:02 AM
Fiendly oooops friendly folks to visit
Enlightening and frequently spirited debate
Knowledge & experience you absolutely cannot find anywhere else
More "points of view" on any subject than possible from any other source
September 19, 2003, 08:05 AM
September 19, 2003, 08:08 AM
I was a member of TFL for a year or three and found the discussions to be interesting, enlightening, and very often thought-provoking. And the occassional rowdy thread helped add to the general enjoyment.
THR seems to be carrying on that tradition. There are a number of people on this board who's opinions I respect and whom I come to for advice. Now I don't agree with everyone all the time (no one does, or should) but for the most part we can cuss and discuss in a friendly atmosphere and at least come away with a mutual respect if not complete agreement.
I also belong to other boards but THR is the one I come back to. It seems to have the broadest representation of political and firearms-related thoughts and thus is the greatest single source of information I have found so far.
Group hug! Group hug!
September 19, 2003, 08:10 AM
did i spell camaraderie right???:rolleyes:
September 19, 2003, 08:12 AM
September 19, 2003, 08:13 AM
Because I like talking about things with people who have a common interest - namely firearms and personal freedom, which are intertwined.
I also get ragged on for some of my other political views. But that's important too. You can't just restrict yourself to listening to people who you agree with, you have to have your views tested.
September 19, 2003, 08:39 AM
Broad base of knowledge, friendship, and the interesting topics. I've made some like-minded friends here in Nashville through THR and now have some folks to go to the range and gun shows with. Not to mention the non-shooting get-togethers.
Plus, what Henry Bowman has already said a couple of times, it's an addiction. You guys are also enablers for my other addiction though, the buying guns one. I'm not complaining, just making ya'll aware.
September 19, 2003, 09:12 AM
Knowledge and diversity. There are alot of really cool people here and I enjoy this forum very much. Be good...
September 19, 2003, 09:18 AM
Well, I came here mostly because this is where everyone from TFL came after it shut down.
I stay here because people here are well behaved, the cult of personalities is minimal, and lastly, but not least, because the knowledge base here is incredible.
September 19, 2003, 09:21 AM
There's a certain amount of respect here among us. Sure from time to time someone steps on someone else's toes and someone gets bent out of shape (usually some Glock Wienie :neener: ), but it never get too far out of hand, or if it starts to there's always a Mod there to shut it down. Plus, when it comes to buying a new gun, I trust you guys and gals more than I do some gun mag or the guy behind the counter.
September 19, 2003, 09:35 AM
Of all the gun boards I've subscribed to, this is by far the most intelligent one.
For example, I have not read one post here yet hollering about black helicopters........................
I can't say that about many other boards I've spent some time on.
September 19, 2003, 09:41 AM
Two reasons: to annoy Tamara and so MPFreeman and I have something to talk about.:D
September 19, 2003, 09:45 AM
Most of y'all have hit upon just about every reason I can think of....but being unable to control myself and loving to hear the sound of my own voice (reading it is even better because I can go back and look again and again) I am compelled to post these remarks......
What TAllPine says.:D
September 19, 2003, 09:50 AM
Don't know really. Information on a wide range of subjects and lots of help if you have a firearms problem.
September 19, 2003, 09:54 AM
I think it is sort of a natural progression.
Initially it was simply for information and TFL/THR was the best place to find firearms info on any number of firearms while the specialty forums Glocktalk, Sigforum etc. were more narrow in their approach.
After a while you grow very fond of the dialog and differing views of people and at the same time you are learning and having fun.
Finally I have met some real live non digital, non imaginary friends out of the boards. People who share interests and just some plain good people.
So I guess THR is really just a big international coffee/barber/gun shop.
The four boards I frequent most in order are The High Road, The Sig Forum, The Ruger Forum and The Smith Forum. All are made up of very civil and intelligent people as a whole, all offer me immense amounts of information and all are easy to navigate. I frequent THR the most because of the people I have gotten to know and the vast diversity of information I can acquire in one place. Besides you guys are a great bunch of gun nuts.
GROUP HUG EVERYBODY. :barf:
September 19, 2003, 10:12 AM
September 19, 2003, 10:29 AM
Since handguns are my hobby it was only natural to search out a forum where I can exchange information and opinions with others who share this same interest. THR is by far the most active and interesting forum I have found. I really don't spend much time on other forums as I don't have that time to spend. I also appreciate the fact that for the vast majority of members they are friendly, polite and articulate in their posts. It is simply a wonderful place to enjoy the company of other gun nuts. :D Best to all, Mike
September 19, 2003, 10:31 AM
I joined TFL right around the time I got my first gun, because I wanted people who I could talk to about the decisions I was making who wouldn't think I was completely nuts.
I stuck around because not only did people give me lots of good information and encouragement, but I discovered that I really like talking about this stuff, and because I learned something new almost every time I logged on.
I followed everyone to THR because where else would I go?
And I became a moderator for the same reason I've been volunteering at my range -- so that I could help give back to a community that's given a lot to me.
Communicate and community have the same root, communicare, which means to share. ... We naturally gravitate towards media that enable us to communicate and form communities because that, in fact, makes us more human. -- Linda Harasim
September 19, 2003, 10:35 AM
I like how busy this board is vs. alot of others out there, the variety & civility of the members & seeing how Skunkabilly's tacticality evolves :D
September 19, 2003, 10:39 AM
I have to agree with everything mentioned so far...
But let me add:
Quite often its DAMNED FUNNY!:D
(and yes, I'd say that in front of Art's Grandma...then I'd probably have to go out to the woodshed with her)
September 19, 2003, 10:48 AM
Information from sources more intelligent than I about such subjects that I know not.... translation.... they got the answers that I don't. Also, it is an addiction; I gotta get my fix of THR everyday. I always get a kind, well mannered response to my question even if it is followed by a flame.
September 19, 2003, 10:50 AM
Its nice seeing other peoples viewpoints to tactics, etc. It makes you see your not the only person in the world with some knowledge. Therefore, you actually get to learn something, instead of just arguing and fighting.
September 19, 2003, 11:00 AM
Because my friends and coworkers don't dig my tacticality.
It's the only place for me to really be myself and talk about everything I love: guns, being Tactically Logistical*, survival, carbon fiber, sharp pointy things, gun school, tactics, stuff made from Cordura, Royal Robbins pants, etc. When I'm operating at work, church, bumming around with my friends or anywhere else, part of me is in hiding, but that all changes on THR.
* (c) Twoblink
September 19, 2003, 11:14 AM
Kidnapped by a camaraderish Russian.:D
September 19, 2003, 11:17 AM
Lotsa reasons: I learn a lot, for one thing. It's "play therapy", to some extent, where there are a lot of discussions involving ideas/concepts as well as the technical specifics of guns.
I've been meddling with guns for over 60 years, and it's a bit of a chance to play "school teacher". :) I can pass along what I've learned the hard way, to help speed up others' learning process. "Payback", maybe...
There are a lot of fun folks here to BS with, and those I've actually met have all been really great people.
Beats heck out of TV, too! :D
September 19, 2003, 11:19 AM
Several reasons but primarily the access to quality information, the sense of community and fellowship from interacting with fellow gunnuts, and networking with said gunnuts.
September 19, 2003, 11:27 AM
THR is the best all round gun forum on the World Wide Web!:cool:
September 19, 2003, 11:36 AM
Actually, I come here because my shrink says if I didn't, I'd probably act out on most of my manic delusions and might hurt myself.
Seriously, for a LONG time (TFL), it was to learn.
I'm a 9/11 gun-baby (the scales fell from my eyes as a result of those events), and have gotten MOST of my firearms-related education from you all as I sought to absorb and retain all that I can.
I've since converted my wife (CCW requirements completed, waiting for the State to mail the card), my son (first range experience last month), and working on my oldest daughter (not anti, just slower to warm to it). Also had many interesting conversations with friends/family using intellectual ammo I learned here.
But lately, it's mainly 'cause I see the news *I* am most interested breaking here faster than I could get it on TV, and it's usually digested and commented upon quickly and intelligently from a 2A/freedom/conservative mindset.
I've babbled long enough. The nurse says it's time for my medicine.
September 19, 2003, 11:47 AM
Cause the guys down at Floyd's Barbershop are all "Yellow-dog Democrats" and don't know diddly about firearms, history and such. And I get in trouble if I hang out there too much, not too mention very little hair left when I walk out the door.
A serious and simple answer...
Because I can be part of a family who share common ideals (for the most part) I think highly of and get to see neat pictures of Tamara's guns, Olegs posters and keep up on Skunkabilly's tactical coolness as well as the political awareness or breaking news (Where is JLB anyway?) from 2dogs, twoblink, agricola, Bruce/fallingblock and Microbalrog.
Its all good.
September 19, 2003, 11:51 AM
I came for the food, and stayed for the pie!
No...wait...I mean, I came for the information, then stayed for the information and the entertainment.
Although there is a fair amount of BS anywhere, there is also an awful lot of genuine knowledge here, in the heads of people that are willing to share it, and I value that a lot.
And then some of the folks here are deliberately humorous, and some are without meaning to at all!
Overall there is a high level of respect, and I like that too.
September 19, 2003, 12:11 PM
Ditto to all that's been said. Especially the social side, info. and funny stuff.
PS oops posted under daddy. :-) Gotta love having 2 people fighting over the same computer all the time.
September 19, 2003, 12:25 PM
I might as well chime in as well.
This place, IMHO, is THE source for just about anything you want to know or ask concerning firearms. It may not be as "social" per say but after visiting many other gun-related forums this place is the most professional and covers such a wide variety of the subject.
I like the fact that there is very little BS (thanks mods) and that intelligent debate is welcome. Even when we dont all agree it ends friendly. And for that reason, I will be here as long as it exists.
September 19, 2003, 12:34 PM
Information and the continuing learning process that I still enjoy as a senior.
My old grandpa said "if you aint learnin your dying"
September 19, 2003, 01:52 PM
I just like the gun culture and the people in general.
Altho I do have to say that THR has as of late seemed to have a few more intolerant folks hanging out. Guys, there are democrats, non-christian atheists, and even ACLU members who are pro-2nd. Let's not hate. Let's educate!
September 19, 2003, 01:54 PM
Many reasons. The main one is that none of my friends or family like guns, so this is about the only place I get to hang with some like-minded folks. :(
September 19, 2003, 01:56 PM
(1) As long as I don't get too specific, I can be open about my interest in firearms without compromising a stealth existence.
(2) The information (Where else can you learn about the VersaMax II one day and learn the next day that cats and gun parts don't mix?!)
(3) The humor!
September 19, 2003, 02:48 PM
I lurked here for a while, saw what I liked and joined.
So many other boards (no names) are immature, condone flamewars, moderated by idiots etc.. I like the mature adult atmosphere and professionalism.
Another reason, let me see if I can make this sound right and not corny, HOPE, this place gives me HOPE, I shoot with a small group of people (plink mostly) and sometimes reading the papers, watching the news and basically dealing with sheeple is pretty darn disheartening and you get to feeling you are all alone in this fight. HOPE, coming here, I am not alone, people speak my language and we are united for a common cause.
I always feel pretty good coming here.
All right enough mushy garbage.
September 19, 2003, 02:57 PM
Force of Habit. :D
That, and I need my daily dose of tacticality from 'The Master of all things Tactical'.. :o :p :D
September 19, 2003, 03:45 PM
Because life is all an just an illusion (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0440204887/102-8880803-6885726?v=glance) and a big reason for pretending to live is life's entertainment value.
What can be more entertaining than reading things about everything from Herman Hesse to screw backout problems in Winchester lever action rifles written by a bunch of eclectic guys from all over the world?
September 19, 2003, 03:52 PM
I am a member of THR because I want to give back to the community.
Actually I am really here to download those gun porn pictures :)
September 19, 2003, 03:55 PM
Because it's one of the few places in the vast internet confusion where my sense of humor is not considered abnormal.
Who may be moving soon and a vast number of people are available to comment on local clubs, ranges and dealers.:cool:
September 19, 2003, 04:07 PM
I am very knew to the firearms world of things and I look to everyones experiences and hopefully learn from them. My questions cannot be new ones so I look to the search feature to find information. Really I use this like an encyclopedia. I don't post much but when I have some intersting things to add I will.
but, yeah , information.
September 19, 2003, 04:16 PM
TFL was extremely important for me; I learned so much and developed genuine fellowship with so many of the “regulars”. THR reunites me with these individuals, is dedicated to mutual firearms education, and fosters our shared interest – with civility and mutual respect. That is critically important for me. I am VERY glad to be part of this community.
Incidentally, sorry to be tardy in replying to this thread; I have been off-line, due to Isabel, for the last 30+ hours.
September 19, 2003, 06:44 PM
I'm here because I learn good, useful things every day, and have a few bits of knowledge to add to the general accumulation. I get more than I give, but to the extent that I give, it's in the spirit of old timers who gave generously to me when I was a novice.
Thanks to one and all!
September 19, 2003, 06:59 PM
'Cause TFL closed.
September 19, 2003, 07:03 PM
I am here because I am humble in my firearms knowledge and there is always something to learn. I contribute when I have something to offer.
I was same at TFL.
Keep up the good work!
September 20, 2003, 08:33 AM
Like Skunkabilly, I don't really know anyone who gets what I believe and why. Most of my family and friends sort of tolerate my RKBA ideas the way they tolerate my great-uncle who claims to have been visited by The Lord.
(The Lord came to Uncle Ivan in a dream, and He told Uncle Ivan:
"Ivan, you've got a nice little pickup there. What you ought to do is haul junk for people, and you could make a tidy living."
"But, Lord," replied Uncle Ivan, for he was tormented by doubts, "it's only a little S10. . . ."
"Well, Ivan," replied the Lord in all His wisdom, "just make a lot of trips.")
September 20, 2003, 08:56 AM
The folks here are very knowledgeable, civil, and always willing to help out with a question or three.
Besides, it gives me an escape from the dismal anti-gun climate here in Australia, and a chance to share the situation with those in a position to resist similar tyranny in the U.S.A..
And, as Art wrote...It sure beats T.V. :D
September 20, 2003, 09:37 AM
<click> (opens email) " hey Steve, gonna answer your own questions? "
I really can't add to anything that has not already been posted.
I've always had my "principles , beliefs and interests", granted not everyone agrees with me--sheeple have the right to be wrong. :)
I found TFL where I found like-minded folks, a wealth of information, shelter from the sheeple, a release from stress.
TFL closed, and I naturally stayed with the folks whom I had grown accustomed to. THR might be called a " forum", seems more like a "community" to me. A community with vast resources that challenged my thinking and still does. Thank You.
Besides, having returned to school, most, if not all of my classes / exams are online...THR doesn't give exams. :D
September 20, 2003, 09:55 AM
This place is great courteous knowledgeable people, I've been on a lot of boards and people are like "how can I make a silencer?" or "can I drill out a blank starter pistol and make it a real gun?"
I'm glad there isn't any of the that nonsense here.
September 20, 2003, 10:36 AM
Here, my level of interest in my primary hobby (Which is regarded as a somewhat distasteful and unhealthy obsession by many 'uneducated' folks.) is admired, respected, and appreciated.
Additionally, I can write REALLY well without much effort, a talent I haven't used much since I got out of school. That ability, combined with my level of study about firearms, has earned me something VERY valuable to me: Credibility.
I look really young for my age. When I'm 50, I'll be the envy of all I know for my spry appearance. Today, at 35, I can easily pass for 22. When I was 22, I apparently looked like I was a high-school kid. People my own age refer to me as "young man" when they don't know my name. The fact that I have a tendency to talk quickly also conveys "youthful energy". Basically, I'm a 'bubbly' person, but my faith in my own judgement, which is based on experience and sound thinking, has a tendency to come across as "brash youthful optimism".
For my entire life, being taken seriously by my nominal peers, rather than being DISMISSED as "some kid who knows nothing" REGARDLESS of the validity of my opinion, practically has to be beaten out of the world at large with a CLUB when interacting on a face-to-face basis. (I have to be the only person who can't wait to get older, as I am heartily sick of being "young".)
This place, along with TFL before it, has NEVER let my appearance interfere with my communication. I am taken as I present myself, as a mature, albeit a bit odd, adult. No second guessing. No condescension. No patronization.
That is unique in my experience. You'll pardon me whilst I savor it with almost frightening intensity. This place matters to me.
Things that enable me to interact here on that kind of level seem to be unique to this place. That takes the form of the attitudes that (most) people have foremost in mind when they communicate on the board, which happen to be a few other things I value almost obsessively, as they seem to be going by the wayside in society at large:
4th-hand RUMORS of other places' members lacking such qualities is enough to prevent me from so much as checking them out to confirm or deny it.
TFL was the second forum I landed on when I finally got regular Net access some 2-ish-plus years back. I abandoned the first more than a year ago.
The High Road makes the third. I feel no need to go anywhere else. This place validates my existence like no other.
And for that, Fellow HighRiders, I most thankfully salute you all.
September 20, 2003, 10:48 AM
I "found" TFL while looking for information on my "already purchased" PT-111. Naturally I moved to THR when TFL was no more.
Since then, I have checked out many other boards. What I found was:
Truly juvenile behavior - (I'm not talking about YOUNGER posters or newbys here...)
Administrators who wanna play "tough guy" for no reason (while doing things that should get themselves removed from the board).
Excessive use of profanity
Posts to wade through that have nothing to do with guns...
Boards whose "response time" is too slow to be enjoyable...
I have found no other board that can compare with THR.
September 20, 2003, 11:08 AM
September 20, 2003, 04:43 PM
I was unable to figure out how to get on the porn sites on the Web. So I started with TFL and now THR with the hope and anticipation that someone will tell me which streetcorner has the people selling the $25 Glocks. :D
The rest is just patience and enjoyment.
September 20, 2003, 08:08 PM
THR is a great place to get information on guns and accessories. The people are knowledgeable, MATURE and more than willing to share info and experiences. The forum is clean with no vulgarity and threatening behavoir. It all boils down to attitude. The folks here a great attitudes.
September 20, 2003, 08:28 PM
so far its been a good source of information from friendly people with a sense of humor.
September 20, 2003, 08:32 PM
Hard to explain. The info, the topics and most certainly the people. I feel comfortable checking in to see what's going on and responding to as much as I can so hopefully I can help someone as much as I've been helped. Other forums seem to be full of trolls or people that can't wait to flame anybody they deem inferior and that's a shame.
September 21, 2003, 12:43 AM
INFORMATION !!!!! :)
September 21, 2003, 02:41 AM
1). Low signal to noise ratio.
2). Great mods who are both knowledgeable and on top of things in a timely manner.
3). Civility of the members here.
4). Exploiting WildAlaska and Gewehr's knowledge and cool hardware.
5). Art, El Tejon, and Johnny Guest's stories.
6). Stephen Camp's knowledge.
7). Anything CR Sam can flesh out in 5 words or less.
8). Tamara's latest acquisition to make me jealous.
9). I look forward to seeing what Standing Wolf is going to twist off about next ;) .
10). People who I can learn something from.
11). Cheaper and more entertaining than watching insects hit the bug zapper.
September 21, 2003, 02:44 AM
September 21, 2003, 02:46 AM
Because I was a TFLer.
Because TFL is inactive.
September 21, 2003, 03:04 AM
I enjoy the collective wisdom and wit and know if I have a question regarding any firearm related question someone will chime in. I also think that any honest evaluation of this site by non- members/ non-shooters/ or antis (misinformed leading to improper/negative outcomes) will realize quickly that although we throughly enjoy our hobby/passion we are not a bunch of knuckle dragging cavemen/cavewomen shallow in the gene pool whose family tree resembles a totem pole but, rather a group of people of honor and integrity enjoying a wholesome activity with our friends and family. Collectively, I believe we make a difference and for that reason I belong.
September 21, 2003, 03:36 AM
I found I really, really like talking about guns. Let's thank Valve Software, the creators of Half-Life, for getting me interested in guns in the first place. :D
Plus, this place is mature. You don't have people throwing around foul language or raving about wanting to to overthrow the government. You don't have people getting all suspicious and accusing you of being an ATF spy or something when you ask about their guns. It's not all doom and gloom, either. You don't have people always going on about keeping their powder dry, or feeding the hogs, or other euphamisms for fighting some kind of war against the government. You hear a lot of good news and positive outlooks here. People want to do something for RKBA here, not just complain about it.
And I've learned a LOT. Heck, I once used Art Eatman as a reference in a short paper I wrote for my EN111 class two years ago.
I've made friends, and like most members of the board, though I don't agree with them all of the time.
And, of course, Skunky thinks I'm cool, and the admiration of the Skunk is more than I could've ever hoped for. :p
September 21, 2003, 04:23 AM
I am a member because I suddenly became very interested in how quickly all of our rights were being erroded, and that I wasnt doing anything. Came here to educate myself, because it looked interesting, and because this is a very mature place where I am not dissmissed as the 20yr old who looks like a 15yr old before I open my mouth. I dont communicate ideas verbally as well as I would like (mouth faster than brain somedays...), and I dont have that problem here.
I can also gawk at all the pretty tools and the uber-eeeevvvvviiiillllll super-black ultra-deadly self-animate self-aware murdering-on-their-own-without-human-intervention sinfully fun guns:D .
September 21, 2003, 07:10 PM
For the information and R&R value.
Also, no where else can I get such good laughs and laughed at!
September 21, 2003, 07:51 PM
I get some good information and I have a place to vent.
September 21, 2003, 08:58 PM
so far, I've only posted twice--haven't felt much like talking about shooting recently. (I had spent the preceding four months or so vigorously pursuing HL's antigun comments on MPR forums, prior to the new carry law being passed in May).
So, while I'm not posting much now, I am reading and following commentary--this board is by far the best board I've found for just gunny talk--not much posturing, AFAICT. And, I really enjoy the broad range of gunny-types...seems to be room for everyone in this family.
And, I just realized, I'm so geared up to "defense" when I post about guns I'm automatically setting up the offense, as it were--and I obviously don't need to think that way here--it's like going to heaven, I guess.
September 21, 2003, 09:17 PM
The information, the people, the sense of a firearm community, like-minded people, fun, and TFL closed down.
September 22, 2003, 01:39 AM
Where the hell else would I hang out?
Would you actually want someone like ME circulating out in the general public?
September 22, 2003, 01:49 AM
Hey Mike Irwin !
Dave Mc said your an allright fella...'cept when you bust more wobble trap than he ;)
Besides, you gotta be here...you're one of TFL/THR's treasured resources ;)
You gave us Hottentot's to boot
September 22, 2003, 02:08 AM
Okay, what the heck are Hottentots? And what is "Shiner Bock"?
September 22, 2003, 02:17 AM
Disclaimer: not responsible for liquid spews on keyboards and monitors. :D
September 22, 2003, 02:42 AM
Shiner Bock is a beer done in Texas.
I generally don't like brown beers, preferring golden colored beers myself.
I LOVE Shiner Bock, and it's a lot browner than it is gold.
September 22, 2003, 02:43 AM
You in the area?
I'm thinking of putting together another foray to the shotgun range in a couple of weeks if you're interested.
September 22, 2003, 03:42 AM
Mike, thanks for the invite. I'm not in the area...but check your PM.
September 23, 2003, 08:47 PM
because, at least for the time being, i am free to do so.
September 23, 2003, 09:54 PM
Largest audience of knowledgeable people regarding firearms and RKBA. Also this forum is unbelievably civil.
September 23, 2003, 09:59 PM
I have to agree on the last point, too. CIVILITY. You don't get told to **** off here, and that's NICE. Compared to the adolescents I've seen at other forums that shall remain nameless...
September 23, 2003, 10:12 PM
Most of all, I'm a self reliant, freedom loving, gun loving cuss who likes to continue learning. Lot of folks here fit that description.
Timely (unlike THIS post :D)
Credible (high wisdom-to-noise ratio)
Mind- and viewpoint-stretching
Source of new friendships
September 23, 2003, 10:26 PM
All the reasons posted so far have been true, but I have to jump on the wagon too and say "civility". Maybe the saying that "an armed society is a polite society" is true even for internet chat boards.
I can visit here and get educated, possibly educate others, vent, yank someone's chain, run my mouth, or cry on someone's shoulder and it's all good. (Well, there's the added benefit that I won't get socked in the mouth if I yank someone's chain, vent, run my mouth, etc.:p ).
You get to read interesting posts on just about every subject, and you can reply and no one gets :cuss: ed off if you say (in a roundabout way) that the idea is stupid (we all get 'em- no finger pointing, here).
Good people, good conversation (and that is something that is sadly lacking in day-to-day life), and a good environment that even my wife (who is really not that into guns, but probably should be being married to me...)
can understand and even enjoy reading.
P.S. Well, all that, too, and since the TFL shut down I've been running amok. :evil:
September 24, 2003, 03:21 PM
LCSNM ALIVE! Need input, more input!:)
September 24, 2003, 03:57 PM
All these posts (which I agree with) and no one mentions one of my favorite aspects of THR?!?!
Virtual range trips.
I love reading the range reports. Almost any range report. Especially range reports on firearms I don't own. But even for those I do own. And especially Stephen Camp range reports.
If you can't go shooting, read range reports. Its the next best thing.
Y'all post more of 'em, OK?
Oh, yeah, I also like the "best gun for xxxxx" threads. Always good for new insights and a few laughs.
And I like the search function. THR+TFL=best firearms encylcopedia in the world.
Getting to be a lot of reasons.
September 24, 2003, 06:04 PM
Diverse opinions & critical thinking skills
September 25, 2003, 12:39 AM
Hot brass found home:scrutiny:
September 25, 2003, 01:33 AM
In the words of C.R. Sam, I was
Kidnapped by a camaraderish Russian.
September 25, 2003, 01:38 AM
Why are you a member of THE HIGHROAD...
....because the moderators love me so! :D
September 25, 2003, 02:59 AM
TFL was a real eye-opener for me... now THR carries on with that spirit. Very good discussion that I rarely come by at home. Comparative studies on RKBA issues, to prepare for the debate that most likely will land here as well sooner or later. Gun talk in a knowledgeable society, GSC: s promptly repelled or educated, if willing.
Very good moderation. <tip of the hat>.
What has surprised me a bit, though, is that I've also found use for the Ignore List :( . It would seem that some folks just can't get used to the idea that the Internet truly, inevitably is international and open :banghead: .
February 26, 2004, 07:54 PM
Haven't seen this one for a while, and we have a RAFT of new folks. Since I plugged this one in a Library reference, I thougt we could use a broader spectrum of our membership. I'd particularly like to hear from some of the folks who joined up in the last year or so.
So what impresses YOU about this place? Lets hear it.
Make me proud to know you...:D;)
February 26, 2004, 09:22 PM
I started as a newbie looking for firearms info.
I de-lurked...well, I can't remember why. Probably as a prelude to asking a bunch of stupid questions. ;)
Top Ten Reasons I'm hanging around:
10) Civility. This place actually expects us to deal with each other with a reasonable amount of courtesy and respect. Enjoyable, especially compared to the decline of these things in American society today.
9) Fantastic moderators. Far too many places go to extremes one way or the other. Either you agree with everything the In Crowd believes, or you're nuked; or any wild-eyed schizophrenic can barf insults and abuse at everyone and everything and no one does squat. THR Moderators walk that fine--and not easy--line between allowing freedom of expression and knowing when someone's just being a jerk.
8) Nightcrawler's got me hooked on his dang gunrunner serial.
7) Information. You know...the thing that led me here in the first place. After a couple of months here, I'm so well versed in Logistically Tactical Combat Weaponry Knowledge that I could conquer a couple of Third World countries armed only with a toothpick and a stale bagel! :D
6) A lot of very interesting, stereotype-breaking people. I intend to send some liberal friends to read some of the posts. "See? I'm not the only gun owner that quotes Monty Python!"
5) Waiting for Skunkabilly to post pictures of his Uber-Tactical Carbon Fiber Toothbrush.
4) The masochistic side of me just can't get enough of trying to explain the libertarian philosophy to die-hard Rebublican dogmatists.
3) "My Gun/Caliber Can Beat Up Your Gun/Caliber" threads more entertaining than Jerry Springer, Judge Judy, or even Crossfire.
2) Because I've found guns are more addicting than tattoos.
And the Number One reason I hang out here is...
1) To bug the :cuss: out of people by making their serious question thread into a Letterman "Top 10 List" parody!!! :evil: :neener:
February 26, 2004, 09:29 PM
It's a good place...
February 26, 2004, 09:38 PM
Fan of Oleg Volk.... lurk all over the place at various RKBA boards and was a frequent poster on one in particular till it shut down... run my own and appreciate anyplace where civility is a matter of course...
February 26, 2004, 09:41 PM
'cuz I like it here
February 26, 2004, 09:55 PM
I come to THR because I can learn from a lot of people
and for me this is one of the best places.
People here are happy to help with anything that I ask.
one more time thanks to everybody from top to bottom.;)
February 26, 2004, 10:03 PM
1. Quality of human beings
2. Quality of knowledge/information
Add #1 and #2 and you get a great place to learn stuff.
Thanks to all, sincerely ;) .
February 26, 2004, 10:05 PM
Diverse views and knowledge in a wide range of topics. Other boards don't stimulate critical thinking, too narrowly pro this or anti that. Some exceptional minds here that test my views for me. An as yet unsurpassed wealth of firearms knowledge.
I learn more here than anywhere else on the net. Tanks to all.;) :D
SIC TRANSIT GLORIA MUNDI
February 26, 2004, 10:06 PM
Because libertarians make me laugh...:neener:
February 26, 2004, 10:13 PM
Because someone mentioned it on ArkansasShooters @ groups.yahoo.com.
I stay because I learn stuff, and I can debate my beliefs in a civilized place. And because of Oleg's Secret Hypnotic THR Mind-Control Waves™. :D
Eventually, I will get convinced I need that .45-70 Ruger 12" barrelled revolver I saw. Lord help me if I do.:eek: :uhoh:
February 26, 2004, 10:20 PM
I forget right now if I responded first time around ... but, no matter ... Samurai Penguin has it pretty well sewn up .. :p
One major thing that strikes me ... and it increases over time ... is that (in a cyber sense I guess) there is one heck of a great extended family here. We are by and large all on the same page ... and there is a fascinating and invaluable interplay of both raw fact, knowledge thru experience and ... opinion.
I posted a ''thank you'' thread just the other day ... HERE (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=821969) .. might seem a bit ''huggy-kissy'' ... all warm fuzzies etc ... but I tell you what .. there are many people here who freely give of their time to add information of enormous value to others. There is hardly a question that can be put on this board that will not eventually get a useful answer.!
That is priceless .... added to which we are moderated extraordinarily well overall - and, ''The High Road'' is indeed just that .... I wonder actually if Oleg originally knew just how great this baby of his would become.
February 26, 2004, 10:28 PM
I love being associated with good people.
Learning, and sharing thoughts is great.
Also, if I'm going to be illegally monitored (by Big Brother), compliments of GWB's USA (un)Patriot ACT, I'd want it to be with all you wonderful people.
"If we don't hang together, we will surely all hang separately."
Guy B. Meredith
February 27, 2004, 03:38 AM
Have you ever read Spider Robinsons yarns about Callahan's cross time saloon? Same comfort level.
Comeraderie is part of it, and being able to see myths destroyed with the ex-antis, Pink Pistols and the likes of Tamara and the other ladies here. Absolutely awesome.
Great to be able to communicate with mature, self secure people. Sure there are some extremists here, but they toe the lline as well. (Had to add that because I don't want to let ultra liberals totally off the hook.... Just kidding.)
February 27, 2004, 03:54 AM
For lots of the reasons already mentioned.
And because watching the leftists flounder here makes me laugh until I almost wet my pants.
Too bad Alpha (male) Gore didn't invent the internet sooner. It's a real hoot!
February 27, 2004, 05:36 AM
I was looking for info and opinions on RKBA issues.
I was once anti, but gradually (and less gradually) converted over the past few years.
I was just cruising the web, looking for good pro and anti arguments, to help me make an informed decission, followed a few links and eventually found my way here. (Never found any good anti sites, though).
February 27, 2004, 08:32 AM
Skunkabilly's crazy pictures:D
February 27, 2004, 09:46 AM
Transplant from TFL.
February 27, 2004, 10:56 AM
I found a new home and nice people.
February 27, 2004, 11:13 AM
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