Shell holder interchangeability ? ? ?


PDA






R00KIE
November 22, 2008, 10:08 PM
I am 98% sure I will be ordering a Hornady L-N-L classic kit
I want to start buying some shell holders off fleabay.

I am finding that the RCBS shellholders and LEE are the same shellholder numbers. . . does that mean they will both work in my press?

Or do I Have to get the Hornady ones?

If you enjoyed reading about "Shell holder interchangeability ? ? ?" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
rfwobbly
November 22, 2008, 10:20 PM
Mr. Rook -

There are at least 3 numbering systems for shell holders that I'm aware of. Those numbers refer to the case size the press is holding. Such as, the shell holder for a 9mm Luger is usually the same as a 40 S&W. So if your Hornady press is already set up for 9mm, then no shell holder changes are required to reload 40 S&W in the same press.

However, in my limited experience, each brand of multi-stage press will use their own unique shell holder design. I.e. the shell holder from a Dillon 550 will not fit a Lee Pro-1000.

The only shell holders that will be interchangeable are the older single stage presses.

Hope this helps!

The Bushmaster
November 22, 2008, 10:55 PM
RCBS and Lee shell holders are the same except the hand primer made by Lee. It takes a different shell holder.

evan price
November 23, 2008, 10:56 AM
The shell holder numbers from any manufacturer are NOT 100% the same numbers.

I found this interchange table on the net when I was trying to find some oddball shellholders on FleaBay.

http://www.darkcanyon.net/shellholdertable.html

fguffey
November 23, 2008, 11:13 AM
R00KIE, numbering system does not make the shell holder unteachable, design makes shell holders interchangeable, and yes, the major manufacturers make shell holders that fit most presses, in the old days shell holders were brand specific, I have C&H shell holder that bolt on with a nut, Herters that are held with set screws and Lyman that were held with a sit screw, right or left, but not like the Herters, then Herters changed to the RCBS style, an adapter was required when using the RCBS style shell holders in an older press, avoid tightening more than necessary, still there are difference, I will not give up my Herters shell or C&H shell holders because of the difference.

I had a chance to exchange my older RCBS shell holders, there are things I can do with the older holders that I may not be able to do with the newer ones. I do not grind shell holders or dies to change their effect on sizing.

F. Guffey

fguffey
November 23, 2008, 11:15 AM
shell holder interchangeable

sorry about that,

F. Guffey

rcmodel
November 23, 2008, 12:25 PM
Such as, the shell holder for a 9mm Luger is usually the same as a 40 S&W.Not in my books!

The 9mm Luger rim is .394" and the .40 S&W is .424".

Lee, RCBS, Hornady, and Lyman all list different shell holders for the two very different cartridges.

If you try to use a .40 shell holder with 9mm brass, you will very likely pull the rim off a case & stick it in the sizing die!

rcmodel

Idano
November 23, 2008, 01:06 PM
Lee, RCBS, Hornady, and Lyman all list different shell holders for the two very different cartridges.RC,

You're correct to the best of my knowledge regarding single stage shell holders but that's not always the case with progressive presses. The Lee LoadMaster uses the same shell plate for 9mm Luger, 40 S&W and 38 Super; #19s 90920. With certain military 9mm on my Hornady AP I will use my 40 S&W shell plate because the dwell on the web is less and the cases will not fit into the 9mm shell plate smoothly and then they hang up on that wonderful wire ejector system.

oops, my bad, the OP wasn't referring to the AP. Never mind what I wrote I was thinking we were discussing shell plates for progressives presses.

The Bushmaster
November 23, 2008, 01:15 PM
But RCBS and LEE shell holders still fit both presses. I can't count (read numbers) anyway and go for fit instead...:D

Jim Watson
November 23, 2008, 02:12 PM
The T-slot shellholders are generally interchangeable between makes of loading press. The numbers do not agree, you must look them up by caliber or head diameter.

Trivia: The T-slot shellholder and the 7/8"x14 die thread were both introduced by the old Pacific company, and eventually adopted by nearly everybody else. Pacific was taken over by Hornady some years ago.

A friend got a great deal on an early RCBS press, but he complained that the ram would not accept standard shellholders, the slot was too small. It was small, all right, it came from a day in which the shellholder was milled into the ram itself and you had to change rams to change calibers.

R00KIE
November 23, 2008, 04:54 PM
So in general the shellholders themselves should fit between RCBS and Hornady . . . they might just have to be different numbers.

rcmodel
November 23, 2008, 05:47 PM
Yep.

Lee, RCBS, Hornady, Lyman, and others are all the same except the size numbers are different.

Be aware that Lee makes a Red box set that only fits the auto-prime tool.

The Green box set fits all modern reloading presses.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?type=pod&id=0004242&cmCat=netcon&cm_ven=netcon&cm_cat=Google&cm_pla=lee%20shell%20holder%20sets&cm_ite=netcon&rid=0180101070502

Well worth the investment, so you always have the shell holder you need at midnight on Friday night!!

rcmodel

Racinbob
November 23, 2008, 07:00 PM
OK, I think my question has been answered. I was about to post a question asking that if I buy a RCBS hand primer will my Lee shell holders work. From what I'm reading, yes. I'm talking about the shell holders that I use on my press. I don't have any for the Lee hand primer. Am I correct?

Walkalong
November 23, 2008, 07:55 PM
The RCBS hand primer uses the same standard shell holders (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=346472) that single stage presses do, so you don't have to get separate ones for your hand primer.

As rcmodel already stated, Lee also makes a different shell holder specific to their hand priming tool (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=779286&t=11082005) as well as the auto prime.

The RCBS hand priming tool would serve you well.

243winxb
November 23, 2008, 08:07 PM
The should all measure around .125" from where the case head sits to when a full lengnt sizing die would make contact. This .125" is needed to get the correct sizing on bottle neck type cases when full lenght resizing. I just found a bad Dillon shell plate that is out of specification. So always check a new shell holder/plate.

ranger335v
November 23, 2008, 09:23 PM
"I'm talking about the shell holders that I use on my press. I don't have any for the Lee hand primer. Am I correct?"

You are correct.

NotSoFast
November 23, 2008, 10:23 PM
It compares four manufacturers, Lee, RCBS, Lyman, and Hornady.

http://www.handloads.com/misc/shellholders.asp

If you enjoyed reading about "Shell holder interchangeability ? ? ?" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!