Lever Guns, will .454 Casull chambering shoot .45 Colt?


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cinteal
November 24, 2008, 08:31 PM
Recently I've been introduced to large bore levers. I love'm! Don't own one, though :( I have feelers out for a Puma M92 in 44 mag (that's what I've been shooting), but all of a sudden I have a thing for a Lever in Long Colt. I will get the .44 first, but I've 2 revolvers in .45 Colt and the dies to load them . . . need a rifle in Long Colt (want one, anyway).

Now, I've been looking and Puma offers the M92 in .454 Casull and SEPARATELY in .45 Colt. I can't find anywhere where it says the .454 will shoot Long Colt. I have an Alaskan (revolver) that will shoot both, but will the M92? Will other manufactures? My shoulder is already revolting, but I would like to take advantage of the .454 ballistics and still be able to shoot Long Colt at bowling pins. Please advise.

Please give any info on drawbacks to shooting .45 Colt in .454 Casull chambers. I'm well aware of the drawbacks in the revolver, but it's an "open" chamber. I can't see bullet sheer as the SAME problem in the rifle, but it's got to still happen, right? Does it have it's own associated problems in the rifle? I'm not worried about problems associated with cleaning . . . I'm a fanatic . . . prolly overclean . . . I'm woozy now from Sweet's . . . maybe that's why I like cleaning . . . and am rambling . . .

I am looking at Marlins and Henrys, too. I know there are some real Marlin and Henry lovers on the site. I am very interested in what you have to say. Problem here is that my frame of reference is the Puma. If you've owned/shot a Puma and at least 1 of the other manufactures, please compare. I can't go Navy Arms or Uberti, but otherwise price is irrelevant. I've bought, well a whole bunch of guns, sold very few . . . resale ain't a concern.

I do want a .357 Lever, and a .480 . . . but not right now.

I have searched the forum, but have not found an answer to my original question. I know you guys would be the ones to know. I certainly don't mean to offend with my parameters, especially since I'm asking you for advice, just wanted to simplify a bit.

Thank you in advance,

cinteal

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Seafarer12
November 24, 2008, 09:03 PM
You can shoot 38's from a 357 levergun so I don't see why you couldn't do the same with a 45 and a 454. It just might not cycle the best.

cinteal
November 24, 2008, 09:09 PM
Thanks, Seafarer. That was my reasoning, as well. But I've not seen levers offered in JUST .38 SPC. Always says .357 Mag/.38 Spc. I guess my questions is, "Why make two guns for the .45 platform?" Will rules not allow Long Colt to be shot in .454 chamberings in Cowboy Action, maybe?

phlip99999
November 24, 2008, 11:06 PM
This isn't much of an answer, but...

Paco Kelly's review of Puma in .454 Casull was done with both .45 LC and .454 rounds. I think he said in the article that Puma/Legacy didn't recommend it, though.

Here's a link: http://www.gunblast.com/Paco_Legacy_454.htm

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
November 25, 2008, 01:27 AM
Personal experience: .45 colt will shoot but it won't feed right - jam city. Now if you were to handload .45 colt rounds to the same OAL as .454 (or close), then they'd feed. It would also be extraordinarily important to clean the powder residue ring at the front of the chamber often, given the extremely high pressure of .454 casull.

cinteal
November 25, 2008, 01:35 PM
Yeah . . . in searching the forum I read where you got hammered for that statment about cleaning and in regard to moon rings

clean the powder residue ring at the front of the chamber often

I agree with you. That is probably the problem in my Alaskan. I can't see me switching between calibers in one setting, though. I noticed an extra "boom" in the revolver along with the some substantial bullet sheer when switching from LC to Casull. Don't know that I thought about the powder residue as a possible cause, but after readig the posts here (thanks to all) . . . definately a consideration.

Thanks for the reply.

Wanta B
November 25, 2008, 02:22 PM
They work great in my little Puma 92 454. No jams what so ever...yet.I run both target shooting quite often.Won't argue with keepn' it clean tho'.Just a good idea.:D

Wanta B

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