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kry_90
November 24, 2008, 11:30 PM
i was cleaning my firearms on sunday and realized that i dont have a .22 rifle
i have a shotgun
a handgun
and the only .22 rifle i have ends with a 3
and i have actually never owned or even shot a .22 rifle
so i really dont know much about them
i have been looking on the internet and doing a bit of research
im really liking the rugar 10/22
but i was wondering what you guys would suggest
the rifle would be used for general plinking
i also have some questions
ive read that on .22 autoloaders when the magazine runs empty
the bolt doesnt lock back like a ar 15
im not sure if this applies to all or just certain rifles
also how long can i expect the life span of a .22 rifle to be
i know brand and such effects the answer
but with how cheap .22 bullets are i could see myself
shooting 1000 round in a day or more

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fireman 9731
November 24, 2008, 11:41 PM
Ruger makes a pretty nice semi-auto, hard to beat, and FYI, the bolt doesnt lock back after the last round fired. Rugers can be a lot of fun with hi-cap mags and, a very cheap and fun plinking day!

ejnogarb
November 25, 2008, 12:02 AM
A Marlin 60 has a last-shot feature that will keep the action half open after the last round. I bought a 20-year-old Marlin 60 recently, took it to the range, fired 400 rounds through it, and fell in love. It's a great, accurate rifle. And I got it for $89. Hard to beat.

Blue Brick
November 25, 2008, 12:11 AM
Marlin 795

chad1043
November 25, 2008, 12:16 AM
kry_90,
I just went through a huge search for a good, not super expensive .22...

There are so many avenues you can go. You will hear a lot about all of them. CZ, Marlin, Savage, Winchester, Remingtons... The list is long and vast... It all depends what you are planning on doing with it...

I choose the Marlin 891T Bolt action, tube fed. It is not beautiful not the most accurate. It is a $180 .22 which takes shorts, longs, and long rifles...

You will have a great time researching... I guess the best thing you to do is to post up how much you wanna spend. Then people here will know what parameters to stay within...

Peace,
Chad

Furncliff
November 25, 2008, 12:18 AM
I have Savage 29 .22 pump made in 1929, others are older and still function well. I have been tempted by the 10/22 with an eye toward moding. So far I have resisted and have fun w/ a Marlin 60.

A great site devoted exclusively to rim-fire is rimfirecentral.com


http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/

kry_90
November 25, 2008, 12:42 AM
i wouldnt want to spend more than 250
300 if it was really worth it

hadmanysons
November 25, 2008, 01:16 AM
I have a mossberg 702. It's ok. Only like $120, mags cheap. Gun will jam if you don't keep it clean and boy does that thing get dirty if you put more than 30 rounds through it. Do wish I had bought a 10/22 though

spiroxlii
November 25, 2008, 01:42 AM
I have a Marlin 60. Mine is a very old one with the Glenfield markings on it and a slightly higher magazine tube capacity than the new ones, but some of the new ones look VERY nice. I saw one at a local Walmart recently that had nice wood furniture and what looked like a fairly heavy stainless barrel for just over $200.

I also have an old short Ruger 10/22. This was my first rifle ever. Using the stock 10rd rotary magazine and quality ammo, it's nice and reliable, but it's not as accurate as the Marlin 60. It's not exactly a fair comparison, though. The Marlin's barrel is heavier and longer.

If you can find a used Marlin 60, you can sometimes get them for an absolute steal price, depending on age. If you go with the Ruger 10/22, you'll probably be happy too. When I'm going out to destroy some evil soda cans, I grab whichever one is closest to me.

Funderb
November 25, 2008, 01:45 AM
10-22s are great if you like to customize, the aftermarket is bigger than the stock.

.308
November 25, 2008, 01:52 AM
you can't really go wrong with a 10/22

natescout
November 25, 2008, 02:23 AM
The 10/22 is best all around 22 lr in my opinion, you can turn it in to a bench gun , make it look like a AR/AK , its up to you.

Sinixstar
November 25, 2008, 02:53 AM
The marlin 70P (aka "Papoose") in the new stainless/synthetic configuration has an auto-locking action on the last round.
I'm a fan of the older blued/walnut version though.

Those things are a ton of fun. Something about having a little rifle that's accurate, you can get 25rnd mags for, and that breaks down and could fit in some glove boxes - that's just... fun. :D

In terms of customizability (is that word?) the 10/22 is where it's at though. Replacement barrels, stocks, triggers, you name it. I think these days you can even buy custom made actions and build one without ever buying a genuine Ruger part.

So many options out there - find something that strikes your fancy and go for it. Unless you're going with some Anschutz or Weatherby Mark XII (aka an Anschutz) most are pretty cheap.
It is easy to go through a ton of ammo at a time without a problem - i think it runs maybe $20-$30 for a brick of 500 now?

Sinixstar
November 25, 2008, 02:54 AM
also - i'm not sure if anybody mentioned your lifespan question - but, they'll last a pretty long time for the most part. We're not talking monster loads that wear out barrels quickly. Very little stress on the parts, very little wear on the barrel - so basic proper maintenence and they'll last a lifetime, even in the lower price ranges.

gunlocators1
November 25, 2008, 07:47 AM
I recommend a 10/22. There nice rifle and later on if the bug hit customize it. You can get a lot invested in a 10/22 if the bug hits you. I have built tons from plinkers to full blown bench rifles with $1800.00 tied up in it for myself and various customers. Your talking top of the line everything and using practically the receiver and bolt. Thats a bit extreme but produced one heck of a accurate semi auto that could compete with anshutz and sometime beat a few. Anyway thats my preference however there are several great .22's available

woof
November 25, 2008, 09:21 AM
I'm the opposite. I most definitely DO NOT need yet another .22 rifle. That said, I do want a Marlin 60 in stainless with synthetic stock. I just like its looks plus I can make the feeble argument to myself that I really don't have an all-weather .22.

Armed 24/7
November 25, 2008, 09:26 AM
I have, and reccomend the Marlin Model 60.

krs
November 25, 2008, 09:43 AM
How people could neglect to mention the Marlin 39 is beyond me.

Yhe 10/22 is the best bang-for-dollar in the marketplace IF dealing with the sometime glitches that occur with most any semi-automatic action. You can sink well over $5000. in a steel actioned match rifle, or you can leave it as bought. You can buy a barrel and avail yourself of the situational advantages of a hot little .17 caliber rimfire cartridge, or you can make your rifle into a psuedo assualt type today, a capable hunting rifle tomorrow, and all things in between on following days. It's a cameleon (sp?).

I sure like the traditional looks and quality of some of the CZ .22's.

The low cost Marlin 60 type of rifle will last ten lifetimes and hit what they're aimed at with ease and efficiency.

The world of the .22 is very, very large and shows no sign of shrinking.

CajunBass
November 25, 2008, 09:43 AM
I've got five 10/22's now: obviously I like them. All of mine are the DSP models with a checkered walnut stock. They don't shoot any better than the standard cheap ones with the hardwood stocks, but they look a lot better IMHO, and they shoot well enough for me.

Another semi-auto that I have grown to like is the Remington 597. I got one about a year ago because it was cheap, and it's both accurate and reliable. It's got a nice "big rifle" feel to it that I like. With the plain plastic stock it's not much to look at, but I don't mind taking it out in bad weather.

If you want to spend a little more money....ok....about twice as much, maybe a little more, it's pretty hard to beat a Marlin 39A lever action, or a Ruger 77/22 bolt gun, but if you want to stay in the around $200.00 class, the 10/22 and 597 are top of my list.

jackstinson
November 25, 2008, 10:35 AM
10/22 is probably the most customizable general fun all-purpose .22's around. Although I must admit that after several years mine is stock except for the bolt buffer and a lot of 25 and 30 round mags. Okay, I have had it in and out of various stocks, but it's always gone back to the original wood stock. Mine shoots cheapo Walmart Federal bulk ammo (13.99/550) all day long out of $8 Eagle 30-round mags.
I thoroughly enjoy my Henry lever action rifles. Lever guns are a blast for plinking with those Spee-D-Loaders for tube mags. (Note: My Henry "Survival" is a joke...the old AR7 was much better)
I have a few .22 bolt action rifles, I taught my son to shoot on my old Marlin 786 which still gets out to the range. Those and their newer variants are under $100 used normally.
But my Mossberg 42Mb and 46Mb are my absolute favorite of my bolt actions....bought used pristine and complete for less than $150 each. Both shoot far better than I'll ever be able to.

22-rimfire
November 25, 2008, 11:19 AM
In a semi-auto 22 rifle, it is hard to beat a Ruger 10/22 or Marlin Model 60 for general plinking fun. For someone who likes to shoot, a semi-auto is hard to beat as a first 22 rifle.

If you want something that you can expect to be more accurate, I would look at a bolt action rifle such as the less expensive Savage Mark II, the Marlin (I don't own one, so the model # escapes me), or the CZ 452 which will be at the upper end of your price range (or slightly above).

An alternative is to look at the Henry lever actions which folks say function real well and shoot just fine. The Marlin 39A is the best, but it costs a lot more. You might find a used one for $300.

dmazur
November 25, 2008, 02:04 PM
Browning SA-22's are surprisingly accurate, easy to take down for cleaning (not just the barrel, but the action is also easy to remove), and rugged.

They do not have the "accessorize" capability of the Ruger 10/22, but if you aren't into that craze you won't miss this feature.

Here's one on GunBroker for a surprising price (and just a little more than you're willing to spend... :) )

Browning SA-22 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=115971957)

cbrgator
November 25, 2008, 02:09 PM
Save yourself some money and get a Savage Mark II. A little over $100 at Wal-mart and far more accurate than a 10/22.

Funderb
November 25, 2008, 02:14 PM
or buy both. ^^^

woodfiend
November 25, 2008, 02:16 PM
The Ruger 10/22 is GREAT!!!!:D I have probably shot 5,000 rounds through mine and it is still going strong. Bad ammo is what will make them jam, and mine doesn't seem to prefer Remington hollowpoints. Federal is pretty good, but CCI is what mine seems to like the most.

BHP FAN
November 25, 2008, 02:16 PM
10/22.

gvnwst
November 25, 2008, 02:18 PM
I personally don't like the 10/22 unless you get a really high end one, as the base models have horrible triggers, aren't THAT accurate, ect. I like savage MKIIs for bolt guns, and the marlin 60 for a semi. My MKII will shoot holes inside of a base 10/22, and mine is $105 instead of $250.

aimbotter
November 25, 2008, 02:22 PM
GSG-5
.. 22 cal. gonna pick one up..
http://demigodllc.com/photo/GSG-5-Gemtech/inline_size/600/GSG-5-1.jpg

Highland Ranger
November 25, 2008, 02:26 PM
In order of preference:

Bolt:

CZ 452 (good value for the money, well made, tackdriver)


Semi-Auto:

Browning Semi Auto 22 (old design, but a sweet rifle)

Marlin 60 (a classic)

Ruger 10/22 (prolific, customizable, just don't look at one with a Browning next to it. Two different levels of artifact)

Jaybird78
November 25, 2008, 07:12 PM
10/22's are a great bargain and you can customize to your desire........
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........my Henry HOO1T gets all the range time now.

Have fun and shoot strait.

DirtyFrog1960
November 25, 2008, 08:56 PM
If you like the Evil Black Rifle look, the Walther G22 is a nice choice. I have certainly gotten my money's worth of fun plinking out of it (though it cost a lot more than a Ruger 10/22). I have had variable results with accuracy --CCI Green Label has been the best for me, with ~50% hit rates on a 1" spinner at 70 meters. At the opposite extreme, I use CCI Mini-Mag (36gr) for silhouette so I don't have to adjust the sights so much across the 40m to 100m ranges.

moonzapa
November 26, 2008, 06:06 AM
The Ruger 10/22 is okay...I've got one. However, for serious shooters it is very hard to beat the CZ-452. Most accurate .22 out of the box you can buy. I would opt for the CZ-453 which has the set trigger. My CZ-452 is my prized possession and I wouldn't trade it or sell it. There are Timney and Brownell's triggers available for the CZ-452, I purchased the Brownell's because I wasn't aware of the Timney trigger. You won't need a new trigger with the CZ-453. This is the best advice I can give you, and advice is free.

flor1
November 26, 2008, 06:38 AM
Why do you think there is so much of a after market for the Ruger 10/22 maybe because out of the box there basically junk. I own 1 and it's not stock by a long shot. For a good reasonably priced and accurate 22 look at the Browning or the CZ.:banghead:

candr44
November 26, 2008, 12:32 PM
If you want to learn about .22s check out this web site http://www.rimfirecentral.com. There are so many good .22 rifles for around $200 or less that you could buy several. Although, .22s seem to be ammo sensitive and you will have to try different brands to find what your .22 likes best. Also, if quick reloads are important to you, get a rifle with a removeable magazine. Tube magazines are more time consuming and awkward to reload.

I have had a Winchester 190 for over 30 years and it is very accurate and has never given me any trouble. I also picked up a Marlin 60 in excellent condition for $30 at a gun show and it is just as accurate and reliable as my Winchester. I also bought a Stevens model 62 with a plastic stock (Savage model 64) for $30 but it seems to be cheaply made. I wouldn't buy this rifle unless you get it cheap.

Robbie
November 26, 2008, 01:15 PM
if your looking for a semi auto and dont mind paying atleast 200 id go with the 10-22. with the amount of availible accesories its hard to beat. I just bought a savage mkII from wal-mart for 124 after tax. you can get a semi or bolt action and it has a 10 round clip. I got a bolt action because they are more fun to shoot and more accurate. its kinda loud but an amasingly simple and easy to clean.

KINGMAX
November 26, 2008, 01:48 PM
You have heard it all by now about the RUGUER 10/22. :) I have two 10/22's, one short carbine type as well as a deluxe 10/22 in stainless w/ a checkered stock. :cool: I have not had an issued w/ either one of them. I can't even estimate how many thousand of rounds of ammo I have sent down range. ( :fire: & I do mean thousands). Both of them are pure stock, I have not made any changes. I clean them each time they return home from the range, fish camp or hunting trip. :rolleyes: Folks seem to think I go overboard about keeping my guns clean, but that goes back to my military days. :D

They are alot of after market things out there if you want to build yourself something more to your liking. Get you one, I am sure you will like it.

My second choice is an older Glenfield or Marlin w/ a tube style magazine.

Another one is an old REMINGTON NYLON 66 either in the Black stock in stainless steel or the brown stock w/ blued steel. They are loaded at the butt plate of the stock. I think they can handle 22 shorts, longs and long rifles.

J. Jay
November 27, 2008, 02:21 AM
Spend the $300 and get a Remington model 5. It's a tack-driving son-of-a-gun.

spiroxlii
November 27, 2008, 03:16 PM
I agree with King Ghidora. I have a 10/22 and a Marlin 60. It may be faster to switch mags, but it's fast, easy, and painless to load a tube. If I have a pile of 10/22 magazines already loaded, then maybe it is faster to reload a 10/22, but it's easier to load the tube on a Marlin 60 than it is to fill a stock rotary or aftermarket hi-cap mag on a 10/22.

woof
November 27, 2008, 03:41 PM
You can get a Remington Model Five for about $165 now.

kiawahman
December 23, 2008, 10:21 AM
Sinixstar,

Do you have a source for 25rd mags for a Marlin Papoose? I've seen a couple Ram-Line poly mags on auction sites but they want the moon & stars for them, ($40 & $45). Ram-Line discontinued making their mags to fit Marlin rifles.

Marlin used to make & market nickle plated 15 rd mags, but all I can find are their 7's & 10's for $19.95 each. I did see one 15 rd Marlin OEM mag on GB.com, NIP, but for $40(!). Numrich used to sell 15 rd steel mags, but they're backordered with no future availability date.

There has to be a market for (reasonably priced) hi-cap mags for these rifles as their popularity is climbing again.

PryItFromMyColdDeadHands
December 23, 2008, 05:12 PM
10/22.....i have had one for years! I love it.

If you like modding, they have stuff out there for just about whatever you want to do.

atlanticfire
December 23, 2008, 05:27 PM
I collect old Remington 512 of various models, and love them. They can be found around gun broker. Also the GSG rifles are fun if you looking for tactacool.

cavemandave1975
December 24, 2008, 04:19 PM
i have a old marlin mod 60 made for western auto verry accurate like it better then the 10-22

FMJMIKE
December 24, 2008, 10:41 PM
Hmmmmm............10/22 gets my vote...............:D
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/mbmphoto/1022LC.jpg

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