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wyoelkhunter
November 25, 2008, 10:10 PM
my daughter has 3 .22s and i and she want to upgrade she has shot a rabbit with .223. butt i dont know if i should get her .17 , .22hornet or .223 she is only 6 but has been very good with a gun since she was very young. she wants me to tell you she has shot 10 or 12 rabbits ,birds and a chipmunk :) so what do think?:confused: i think go right to .223

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moojpg2
November 25, 2008, 10:15 PM
that's a tricky one, i would say either the hornet or .223 would be fine, but good luck finding them in a rifle that will fit her

wyoelkhunter
November 25, 2008, 10:18 PM
i will have to use a bidod and maybe a saw

Bartkowski
November 25, 2008, 10:20 PM
There is nothing wrong with the .22 hornet, but I would go with the .223. Ammo is easier to find and recoil is almost not existent. Since she has 2 .22's I assume she will be alright with a slightly bigger rifle like a .223 but in the end you have to make the call.

tank mechanic
November 25, 2008, 10:23 PM
Have you thought about 17 HMR?

wyoelkhunter
November 25, 2008, 10:28 PM
how well do 22 hornets work on coyotes and what kind of range could i get out of it. not much more than 200yds im guessing. the store down the road has a hornet i was going to buy a year ago for myself maybe it could be a loaner.

wyoelkhunter
November 25, 2008, 10:31 PM
i have a henry golden boy 17 i won but i dont want her to pinch her thumb with the hammer did once it took awhile for her to shoot again kids get fingers in strange places in a hurry.

Infidel Cowboy
November 25, 2008, 10:40 PM
If she has 3 .22s and has shot a .223, just ask her what she wants and thinks she's ready for. Most women are a lot tougher than we tend to give them credit for - 6 or 60. Worst case is you end up with an action you can restock - or sell to me for my son when he's ready in a year or two.:)

trstafford
November 25, 2008, 10:40 PM
I have a nice CZ 527 carbine that is short, light and uses a detachable magazine which makes controlling the ammo easy. They are available in 223. I think that they also make a rifle in hornet

http://cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=15

http://www.jesseshunting.com/articles/guns/category8/156.html

wyoelkhunter
November 25, 2008, 10:51 PM
thank you very much folks she liked the pic of the cz:)

Mike U.
November 26, 2008, 02:47 AM
Your daughter is firearms proficient at age 6?

HOW FREAKIN' COOL IS THAT?!!



I'm with the .223 crowd.
What a great round to grow into. Good luck finding a rifle to fit her though.
Maybe an M-4 with collapsible stock? :D
Or any rifle with a collapsible stock?

What a happy dilemma. I envy you.

Envisaged
November 26, 2008, 10:26 AM
How about a levergun?

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=13785&d=1223135639

.357 Magnum, she was 5 in this pic.

Bartkowski
November 26, 2008, 10:34 AM
how well do 22 hornets work on coyotes and what kind of range could i get out of it. not much more than 200yds im guessing

Thats about right. A friend of mine uses his hornet on coyote to around 225 yards. He loads it with a 35gr. or 36gr. bullet just under 3000fps. It doesn't do that well in the wind, so you will have to be especially careful and know your limitations.

If you have found a good deal on a .22 hornet you may as well get it. They are fine guns just don't have the same range as most other varmint guns.

OAKVILLE SHOOTER
November 26, 2008, 10:59 AM
Not sure what you are planning on her to shoot, but you did mention coyotes. My five year old son has been shooting a 243 for about six months now. If you are planning on deer or the like in the future, you may want to consider the 243. Yes, I see a bi-pod and a saw in your future.

Oakville Shooter

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
November 26, 2008, 11:48 AM
I'd say .17 hummer for that young. Look at CZ 452s...

Eyesac
November 26, 2008, 12:58 PM
I vote for .223. Get her an AR!!!!!!!! Seriously, the adjustable/telescoping stock would be great for a growing child.

BTW good for you, I can only hope my daughter takes some interest in guns!

jkingrph
November 26, 2008, 01:14 PM
Much as I love my Hornets, I would go with the .223 for cost of ammo.

bang_bang
November 26, 2008, 01:45 PM
See if you could find one of the Bushmaster light weight deals. The one I saw was a flattop with a stainless barrel and only weighed like...i dunno, rough estimate, 4-5 pounds empty. With the muzzle break, I bet the recoil would barely be noticeable, even for a 6 year old.

Good luck finding one now, and good luck trying to fund it....

Sinixstar
November 26, 2008, 02:27 PM
You can get one of the H&R rifles in .223 with a youth sized stock.
May not be as flashy as an AR - but is probably a bit more realistic. You can start out with a youth-sized stock and the light barrel, maybe a relatively inexpensive scope, and as she grows up, step up to a full-size stock, heavy barrel, and better glass. Things are accurate as can be, and fun to shoot.

J. Jay
November 27, 2008, 01:16 AM
Check out Legacy Sports youth 2N1 combo in .223. Howa bolt rifle and two Hogue stocks.

CZ223
November 27, 2008, 08:50 AM
I have been through this with my daughter who is now 17. She started shooting at the age of 5 and by the age of nine was sporting two 32 caliber Rugers on her hips, using a a 12 guage 97 and, shooting a 357 Marlin rifle, all quite well I might add. Along the way, somewhere around the age of 6 or 7, I had the same idea as you, at least form the bench she could handle a 223 or a 222 remington. If you can find a remington Model 7 with the youth stock in either of these calibers, buy it. Another gun that may work and will be equally as hard to find, is a Mark X action that was imported by several companies through the years, I believe EAA was one of them. They are a small Mauser action, chambered for the 223 or the 222. The ones that I have seen have all been great shooters. Stay away from the ARs for now. She really isn't ready for that yet. I reecently saw a very compact Ruger 77 with a youth stock that would fill the bill if they chamber it in 223, 222 or 204 Ruger, which has not been mentioned yet, but is a great choice in my opinion.

I think Sinixstar has made the best suggestion so far, of a single shot rifle like the NEF or H&R. These are great shooters at bargain basement prices. The most you will have to do them is clean up the trigger. What you save on the cost of the rifle you can put into a good scope that will always "fit" her. The variety of calibers that these are available in is just short of incredible. I have seen them in 17 HMR, 22 Mag, 223 and 204 Ruger. They probably do have a hornet and even a 222 available, but why bother. The other choice is to build your own single shot, which is the route I went. Back then I was heavy into TC pistols so I simply bought a a youth rifle stock and a 16" 223 barrel for it and Voilla, instant lightweight kids rifle. It was a tack driver too. This is avery good way to go as you can simply buy different barrels for different purposes. As for the caliber, if you are going to use it on coyotes, I would go with the 223 or the 204. I know some guys use the 17 HMR out to a couple hundred yards but, they have probably been shootings dogs longer than your child has been alive. If you reload the 204 is just as cheap to shoot as the 223 and the bullets that are availabe are more explosive than most of the 223s out there. Even if you are shooting factory ammo with with good hunting type bullets the cost of the 204 is comparable.

woof
November 27, 2008, 09:13 AM
I'm surprised no-one has suggested the CZ carbine in .223. A sweet compact piece, it is perfect for a small person. If you were to handle one you would agree.

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