Stevens 200 new comer question


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trlcavscout
November 26, 2008, 12:45 AM
Ok I havent been on here in a while, or much but I have a question I'm hopeing someone can answer. I just purchased a steven 200 in .223 so I dont have to lug my savage 12FV around all winter coyote hunting. So my question's are this (not so much I am gonna do it, just wanna know), this is a short action right? Will a savage short action stock fit (if I was to order a bell and carlson for example)? Can I put a savage accutrigger or aftermarket trigger made for a savage on it? I have been looking for info and parts, everyone says they are the same but I cant find where anyone has actually done it? Thanks

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cbrgator
November 26, 2008, 12:50 AM
Chances are good that no you cannot replace the stock. If the magazine is center-feed as opposed to stagger-feed it is not replaceable. Can't help with the trigger.

Shade00
November 26, 2008, 12:51 AM
I just got a Stevens 200 in 7mm-08, and it's my understanding that the Savage and the Stevens are virtually identical. I've seen aftermarket triggers recommended many times - I too will be interested to hear about changing the stock, though.

bang_bang
November 26, 2008, 12:57 AM
I think, not 100% sure, that a Savage stock will fit the Model 200. I didn't replace the stock, but took some Krylon to it!
Trigger is adjustable, just isn't as nice as the Accutrigger. But for hunting, it's perfect IMO. Here is a couple pics of my Model 200 in 300 Mag.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h300/ss_drummer/DSC00192.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h300/ss_drummer/DSC00194.jpg

trlcavscout
November 26, 2008, 01:03 AM
How do you adjust the trigger on these? I was told you cant?

bang_bang
November 26, 2008, 01:10 AM
Well...I did on mine. Look in the manual, it explains it in there. I shall continue to search for mine...seemed to have missplaced it...

bang_bang
November 26, 2008, 01:17 AM
AH-HA...found it.

I apparently lied to you, manual is for Accutrigger rifles... But they are adjustable, or I twisted a screw for no reason.

The picture here shows the screw, loosen it to lighten the pull. Don't loosen it too much though, be careful it still holds it's threads.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h300/ss_drummer/stevenstrigger.jpg

that's from http://www.gunblast.com/Stevens-200.htm

cbrgator
November 26, 2008, 01:48 AM
Bang Bang, Love that paint job.

rangerruck
November 26, 2008, 12:06 PM
I doubt it is a short action, proly all the stevens are based on the 110, I believe.
Also you can adjust the trigger geometry with shims, i believe. Go over to rimfirecentral.com, and look over on the Savage threads, and check the stickys at the top of the Savage page. I know i did this to my rimfire trigger, and it worked great.

Birdhunter1
November 26, 2008, 07:17 PM
It is a short action, on the stevens site they list a 200 LA and 200 SA. As for changing the stock I used a Boyd's laminate thumbhole for a Savage 10, I had to do some inletting and I free floated the barrel but it bolted right up. I lightened the trigger in mine with the same screw shown above, if you want to get creative you can stone it down. Regardless how you adjust the trigger make sure when you fit it all together that it does not slam fire and that all the safety positions work. FYI there are two other screws that you may think are for trigger adjustment but they are actually trigger overtravel and the adjustment for the safety, DO NOT ADJUST THESE unless you have to.

ken22250
November 26, 2008, 08:03 PM
when adjusting the trigger on one of those, be careful, if its too far out it can work loose, and that will disengage the safty, that happned to me once, so i had the trigger replaced.
ken

Birdhunter1
November 26, 2008, 08:10 PM
I had the same thing too when I adjusted it too light, of course I had also played with the overtravel screws and all. I had the trigger pull into the ounces but to little overtravel woudl sometimes cause the trigger to hang in the fire position and whenever you would chamber a round it would fire, of course I found this out in my garage using an empty case with a primer in it insteadof live rounds. I always do this when doing trigger work.

texascarl
November 26, 2008, 10:27 PM
This article (http://www.gunblast.com/Stevens-200.htm)includes a photo of the screw to adjust to lighten your standard Stevens trigger. Timney makes a nice trigger for these if you just can't learn to enjoy the one Savage puts on them. I like my .223 and .243 Stevens 200. YMMV of course but I think they're a dandy little rifle for the money.


http://www.gunblast.com/images/Stevens-200/Thumbs/MVC-001F.jpg

bang_bang
November 26, 2008, 10:34 PM
Since we're on the subject of Stevens...

Are the .223 rifles worth it? I know as far as deer hunting goes my 300 Mag has paid for itself in meat. The .223 would mainly be used as a target/small game rifle. I know a lot of people own the .223 versions..

LET ME SEE SOME GROUPS

mejeepnut
November 26, 2008, 10:36 PM
Don't stone a Savage/Stevens trigger,they are only case hardend from what I have heard!I can't find the sight that I used to adjust my models 110 and 111.Try going to savage shooters and doing a search!

jmr40
November 27, 2008, 01:11 AM
Any stock that will fit a Savage will fit a Stevens of the same action length. The problem is that Savage/Stevens redesigned their magazines and stocks recently and the aftermarket companies are just now catching up. There are guns made by Savage and Stevens in stores with both the old and new designs and you should be careful if buying a replacement stock. If you have the newer design you may not want to change it out. I think it is a big improvement.

dagger dog
November 27, 2008, 11:58 PM
Just make sure to measure the distance between the centers of your Stevens action screws, there are a couple of different measurement stocks out there early short action and late short action and the screw spacing is different.

The manufactuers will give the specs on each.

Archery Ham
November 28, 2008, 12:34 AM
I am glad I found this site. :D

I think E. Arthur Brown makes aftermarket triggers for Savage/Stevens.

Thanks for the picture. I am going to modify mine Friday. Mine is a tad heavy.

Bang Bang.....I like the paint job you did. I am planning on using Krylon Fusion to do a matte finish....stock and barrel. I like the Center Point scope.

I got this one earlier this month.

harrishawk2
November 28, 2008, 12:45 AM
Ranger ruck had it right... all stevens 200 are savage 110/10 actions. 110 for the long action and 10 for the short action. You can put an accutrigger on the stevens and any stock designed for the 110 will fit the stevens 200. I have a stevens 200 that I just bought in 300 win mag and haven't done any mods yet but I'm going to be replacing the stock.

briang2ad
November 28, 2008, 08:23 AM
If you buy the Stevens, and add a stock and trigger, will you come out cheaper???

How do they shoot compared to a Savage 110?

If they make this in 223, would it be as ACCURATE as the Savage Model 25?

skinewmexico
November 28, 2008, 01:24 PM
Timney and Rifle Basix make great aftermarket triggers for the Savage/Stevens. If you don't have the centerfeed, any Savage stock will fit. If it does have the centerfeed, I think Stockade make a centerfeed stock. I've had great luck with B&C stocks.

Birdhunter1
November 28, 2008, 04:16 PM
For what it's worth here is my Steven's 200 chambered in .223:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee53/Rickpierson1/Ricks%20pix/Stevens%20223/P1020835.jpg

I didn't like the tupperware stock from Steven's so I bought an unfinished Boyd's laminate thumbhole, finished it, and layed my Steven's in it. In the springtime I will bed the action (when I have more time). Till then I gave the gun to my dad a few months ago when I got my AR honed in well, once I get my .243 Tikka shooting good, I'll trade dad and bed the Steven's.

Here is one of my target's, the wind was blowing bad and I was aiming at the top of the point to the left, this gun always prints three shots like this (2 touching one off to the side). 52 grain Hornady AMAX with 25.8 grains of Benchmark with an OAL of 2.070
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee53/Rickpierson1/Ricks%20pix/Stevens%20223/P1020831.jpg

Birdhunter1
November 28, 2008, 04:20 PM
Another target:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee53/Rickpierson1/Ricks%20pix/Stevens%20223/P1020832.jpg

Same gun with it's former scope:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee53/Rickpierson1/Ricks%20pix/Stevens%20223/P1020776.jpg

briang2ad
November 28, 2008, 05:11 PM
Nice groups, but did you put a new $100 trigger in? Then how much for the stock? Again, is it cheaper to buy a 110 in 223, or a model 25?

Birdhunter1
November 28, 2008, 08:13 PM
$101 and some change for the stock on ebay, it was unfinished when I got it. A sheet of 220, 400, 1000 and 2000 grit sandpaper, some 0000 steel wool and a small bottle of Tru-oil later the stock was a finished stock. As for the trigger I adjusted it down the got out a small needle file and a stone and got it down to about 1 1/2 lbs. Only reason I stoned the trigger is because if I messed it up I coudl replace it with an aftermarket. I loaded a casing withjust a primer and beat, dropped, slammed and everything I could think of and it woudl not fire itself.
As for the question on whether it is cheaper than a Savage, I got it new in the box for $150 and traded a Rem. 597 that I won in a raffle and had no inention of keeping or shooting, so in my case yes it is cheaper than a Savage. Total in the gun itself is less than $300 plus the Warne permanent med. mount steel rings, Weaver bases and a Bushnell Banner 6-24x40 MD AO scope.

briang2ad
November 28, 2008, 08:29 PM
Birdhunter - what you did was very feasible and smart. I just wonder what a $100 trigger and $100 stock on top of say... $300 before you scope - then it is probably cheaper to get the Savage.

bang_bang
November 28, 2008, 11:52 PM
Looks like I might pick up another in .223 pretty soon. :D

Awesome groups, and that thing looks sweet with the thumbhole stock. I feel confident enough with mine that I could probably achieve those groups in a couple of tries.

Stevens/Savage has my support 100%

Birdhunter1
November 29, 2008, 12:36 AM
By the time you woudl by a Savage with a thumbhole stock you would be spending more than buying a Steven's and adding a thumbhole stock, that I am convinced of. Of course to get a thumbhole factory on a Savage you'd also get a bull barrel, which would be worth the extra dollars in my opinion.
When I did my trigger work I just kept in the back of my mind that if I can get this to work it cost me a few hours time, if I mess it up I can get an aftermarket trigger for $85.

The way I got mine it was cheap, unless you figure that the Rem 597 I traded in was maybe worth $130 or so, I still look at it as a rifle that cost me $5 that I didn't want.

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