Super Nines Timeline - For the Record WHen?


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BlindJustice
November 26, 2008, 01:40 AM
I'd like to start a discussion of the history
of the Double Stack 9MM Parabellum aka 9MM
LUger or just 9x19 chambered handguns that
have the staggered or 'double stack' magazines,

First of course

1935 Browning Hi-Power or Pistole P-35

Seems there was a requirement by the french for the
HIgh cap magazine but they backed out of the deal
and it was adopted by the Belgians. Didn't the
French have the MAB 35 or something by Peders? with
the slide indie the frame that pre-dated the Sig 210 ?

Perhaps we'll get clarification on the French double stack
in the early days.

THe second Double stack I can think of is the S&W 59 that
came out of US Navy trials in the mid-60s though it wasn't adopted
S&W introduced the model 59 in 1970.

Hmm,

1975 - the CZ 75

when did the Beretta 92 come along with it's heel mag release
prior to the mag release behind the trigger guard ?

of course the Glock 17 was early 80s much the late comer....

What say ye? I'm probably forgetting some POS Hi cap guns that
are best footnotes....\

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Jim Watson
November 26, 2008, 03:19 AM
The 1907 Savage .32 and .380 had staggered magazines not quite complete double column, but they got ten shots into quite a small gun, although not a 9mm P.

The French 35A and 35S that they went to after turning down the Grand Rendement predecessor to the BHP do not have double column magazines and are 7.65 Longue, not 9mm. They do not have inside slide rails, either. The contribution from Petter was the modular lockwork.

SIG prototyped the SP44/16 in 1945 with 16 rounds double column but the Swiss went with the single stack version which became the M49 and then the P210.

The Beretta 92 came out in the 1970s. Didn't have a heel magazine catch, though; it has a button on the lower left grip panel.

Do you want to count the Broomhandle Mauser Red Nine of WW I? Its magazine is fixed but it is certainly double column like a Mauser rifle.

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