Bought a Sigma


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chrissmallwood
November 26, 2008, 08:35 PM
Hi all. I just brought home a Sigma this evening:). I had been looking at getting a new 9mm pistol and for some reason the Sigma kept cathing my eye. I got it at Gander Mtn( I know, not the best place to get a new gun due to their usually high prices but it's one of the few stores close to me that carries a large selection). It's used but it looks to be in really good shape, the trigger is heavy but it's really smooth. It was only $249 and the tag said it came with 3 mags, so I figured it wasn't that bad of a deal. After I filled out the papers and paid for it I saw the guy helping me walk over to the shelf with all the mags on it and grab a factory S&W mag for it and put in the case. I assumed he did it so there would be 3 mags with it like the tag said so I didn't think much of it. When I got home I opened the case and thier were 3 mags in the case plus another in the gun so I ended up with 4 mags instead of 3:D. I guess the guy didn't notice the mag in the gun and thought it was short one so he gave me another, I'm not going to complain though. Can't wait to take her out this weekend and see how she does.

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applekev
November 26, 2008, 08:42 PM
You have a great gun and you paid a very good price. The SW40VE was my first hand gun.:)

chrissmallwood
November 26, 2008, 08:55 PM
Thanks. I had thought about buying a new one but my local dealer wouldn't be able to get one that cheap and if I bought it online I would have had to pay the transfer fees which would have put it right at my price from the dealer. Plus getting that fourth mag made it an even better deal.

ZeBool
November 26, 2008, 08:58 PM
It seems that everyone puts sigmas down, and yet while I don't have one(yet), my understanding is that they are identical to glocks. Lord knows we all know how popular those are! Good purchase man.

doglb
November 26, 2008, 09:01 PM
I had the 9mm version for a long time, not a bad gun. It did what it was built to do-never had a misfeed, it just kept shooting...
THe trigger was something to get use to, but once I did-the gun functioned like it was suppose to.

A very decent gun in my opinion! :D

chrissmallwood
November 26, 2008, 09:09 PM
"ZeBool"
"It seems that everyone puts sigmas down, and yet while I don't have one(yet), my understanding is that they are identical to glocks. Lord knows we all know how popular those are! Good purchase man."

Thats my train of thought too. The only major difference being the trigger pull. I guess it just has to have Glock on the side to get some people excited.

shiftyer1
November 27, 2008, 02:14 AM
I own a sigma in 9mm. The only thing I don't like is the trigger. I fired a glock and the trigger is wayyy lighter. Also mine bites my hand some but nothing a slip on won't fix

MJRW
November 27, 2008, 03:30 AM
Being a polymer semiauto with a funky trigger does not essentially make a gun a glock anymore so than saying since you bought a car with four wheels, a spoiler, and no air conditioning means you have a Formula 1 car.

chrissmallwood
November 27, 2008, 09:58 AM
MJRW-Being a polymer semiauto with a funky trigger does not essentially make a gun a glock anymore so than saying since you bought a car with four wheels, a spoiler, and no air conditioning means you have a Formula 1 car.

No, it doesnt make it a Glock. What basically makes it a glock is having most every part being identical between the two with quite a few parts being interchangeable. If you look at photo comparisons between Glock parts and Sigma parts youll see the vast similarity between them. Theres only a few parts that are really different, probably too try and avoid a lawsuit, which obviously didnt work. I found a webpage where they went through and compared the two and tried to find out which parts would interchange. If I find it Ill try to post it.

shiftyer1
November 27, 2008, 09:30 PM
I was just comparing the trigger feel between the two

skeptiq
November 28, 2008, 11:32 AM
The first gun I purchased was a Sigma 9mm also. Picked mine up at a local gun show a few weeks ago for $320 (new), 2 16 round mags, and a $50 mail in rebate. I couldn't pass it up for that price (and it was on my short list). I've been to the range once, but looking forward to going again very soon.

After 80 rounds in my new one, the trigger seems to be much smoother. Personally I don't mind the "heavy" trigger since there is only the trigger safety. I haven't had one issue (FTE, FTF, etc) so far and the gun is very comfortable in my mitts :D

WVfishguy
November 28, 2008, 12:13 PM
I had to dry fire / shoot my Sigma .40 a lot before the trigger smoothed out.

It is so reliable that when I had a malfunction, I about went into shock. The slide locked back with a round in the magazine.

I've had that happen with another .40 S&W pistol using Remington UMC ammo. I don't shoot .40 UMC anymore.

dwhite
November 28, 2008, 12:53 PM
I've had mine almost 2 years and have enjoyed every moment of it.

It's been ultra reliable.

If you shoot it a lot, and master the trigger, everything else you shoot will be a LOT easier.

Enjoy!

All the Best,
D. White

shiftyer1
November 28, 2008, 11:29 PM
I agree entirely with the folks (NOW) saying the trigger will smooth out after use. I fired it a little after I bought mine some time ago but didn't like it so i put it up. Went out turkeyday and fired a bunch. With a little practice I was hitting 50 cent sized bulls from 15 - 20 yards. Which is more then I can ask for with me firing. Groups about the size of a small coffee can lid. I think i'll play with it more often to see what I think and give it a fair chance. I do need some slip on grips to make it more comfortable for me.

gglass
November 29, 2008, 12:52 AM
The SW40VE is part of my collection and I find it to be as accurate and reliable shooter as anything else costing 2 to 3 times as much.

I did do the well known trigger job to mine and brought the pull weight down to nearly the trigger pull of my M&P 40.

Have fun with your purchase and don't let the smug " Glock only" crowd change your mind about that fine weapon.

Ben86
November 29, 2008, 12:57 AM
I hear those are good guns, as long as you can deal with the heavy trigger pull. I tried one out for the first time a few days ago and strongly disliked the trigger pull. It's a nice looking gun though with great ergos and reliability.

If only they would offer a model with a trigger pull between the 5-6 pound range I would pick one up tommorow.

denfoote
November 29, 2008, 05:15 AM
I have an SW40F that's alright.
Although, I prefer my G23.

legion3
November 29, 2008, 05:33 AM
$250 OTD is about the right price for a Sigma so you got a great deal on a decent car or truck gun.

Like a Glock? Not a chance. But for a load, toss in the glove box and leave it there the Sigma will do.

;) From the smug Glock crowd.

MicrometerMike
November 29, 2008, 07:41 AM
I am a 1911 diehard, I did break stride and shot my son's Sigma and found the trigger different from what I'm use to but once I mentally dialed in the pull and focus on "frontsite" the Sigma was'nt a bad shooter for the price,my eyesite has seen better day's and I was still able to put'em all, of 3-4 mag's on a 12x12 paper @ 50yds.

QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW
November 30, 2008, 01:52 AM
i was in the market for a full time carry gun after i got my CPL. found a used Sigma Allied forces (black slide instead of regular stainless) 40VE at a local pawn shop.

it has been my carry every since day in and day out, ive put well over 2k rounds through it and never a hickup. trigger pull is just fine if you grew up shooting DA revolvers like i did.

get a grandfather IWB kydex holster and it will never leave your hip.

QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW
November 30, 2008, 01:54 AM
sorry

QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW
November 30, 2008, 01:55 AM
stupid laptop

owlhoot
November 30, 2008, 03:35 AM
How does one improve the trigger on the Sigma?

SniperStraz
November 30, 2008, 04:27 AM
How does one improve the trigger on the Sigma?
Keep shootin' it.

QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW
November 30, 2008, 05:55 PM
shouldn't need to improve nothing on the trigger, its a DOA gun for a reason.

you need to go and shoot, thats how you improve your self, nothing needs to be changed with the gun. if you dont like it then sell it and buy something else.

Mauserguy
December 1, 2008, 03:45 AM
A buddy recently bought one. We took it to the range. I had heard that Sigmas suck, but man, I liked it. For a plastic gun it felt good in the hand. I hate Glocks, but I would consider a Sigma. The trigger, though, is something else.
Mauserguy

chrissmallwood
December 2, 2008, 05:49 PM
Well, I finally got to try her out. Things did not go as planned. I took along 3 types of ammo, 125grn Silver Bear, 125grn Nato ball and a box of 125grn Blazer Brass. All of my shooting was done at 7yds. I loaded up the Silver Bear first. The accuracy was pretty good but it jammed on me twice in the first mag with the round hitting the top of the chamber at a steep angle. I switched to the Nato ball but it jammed again in the same fashion. Finally I tried the Blazer and it didnt jam this time. It didnt jam once the rest of the time I was out so I dont know if it was ammo related or what. Next time Im going to try each mag with each type of ammo I have to see if it was a mag issue. The only other issue I had was after I had been shooting for awhile I noticed that my groups were moving all over the place and after closer inspection I noticed that the rear sight had moved, I found that if I pushed on it I could get it to move:mad:. Granted it took a bit of force but it wasnt enough that would prevent it from moving if I bumped it against anything. So I guess a trip back to Gander is in order so they can send it back to get fixed. Other than the issue with the sights I really like it. While shooting it I didnt really notice the trigger at all, it has a very smooth pull which made it feel like it was lighter than it actually was. Hopefully I can get everything taken care of.

Davek1977
December 3, 2008, 01:36 AM
I too recently bought a (NIB) Sigma 9VE after finding what I thought to be a great deal (sticker price $300-$50 S&W rebate-$50 gift card included with purchase of any firearm=$200 plus tax out the door). Luckily, I had none of the issues the above poster mentioned. I need to drift my rear sight to the left as it was shooting low and to the right, but absolutely no mechanical failures of any kind. I shot 100 rounds of Winchester 115 gr. fmj, along with about 20 Federal 147 gr. JHP's. All rounds fed anf fired perfectly, rapid fire or slow. While definitely not a torture test, it was nice seeing S&W shipped these guns ready to work, rather than somehting that needed "broken in" before it'd work right. While I feel bad for the poster above me, I couldn't be happier with my purchase. For a $200 pistol, I'm definitely more than satisfied at this point. I thought the trigger would be an issue, but honestly, it wasn't much of an issue at all, as in I didn't even think about it (til I got my Buckmark out after expending my supply of 9mm ammo, anyway!!)

csay
December 3, 2008, 08:01 AM
I have had nothing but good luck with Sigmas. The trigger does take some getting used to, but it's the way they designed it.

skeptiq
December 3, 2008, 08:50 AM
I fired another 100 through my new one bringing the total rounds through it to 180 and have had ZERO failures of any kind. I really like it! I have only run Blazer Brass 115gr FMJ through it so far.

ZO6Vettever
December 3, 2008, 09:32 AM
I have 425 rounds down the barrel of my NIB 9mm Sigma. Assorted name brand ammo both JHP and FMJ, 115 and 147 grain. Seven light primer strikes and two jams. All ammo and both mags had a malf. It's my carry weapon so I can't deal with that track record. It's back at S&W now and I'm sure it'll be perfect when it comes back, I hope.

chrissmallwood
December 3, 2008, 10:15 AM
Im not so much worried about the jams as I am the rear sight. Hopefully I can find the time to get to Gander to have them send it back for the loose rear sight. Ill have them look at the jamming issue too while they have it. Should I send the mags with it so they can see if that was the cause of the jams or should I return the gun only? I really like the gun and I hope they can resolve these issues.

brooksie140
December 3, 2008, 06:53 PM
I have been looking at the Sigma for a while then bought one last month. It shoots great and feel good carrying concealed. Tight cluster target shooting.

TeamPrecisionIT
December 3, 2008, 08:12 PM
Send the gun and the mags, as matter of fact, just send it in the same box it came in (the blue S&W box). Sucks you have an issue with it, mine has worked great minus two FTE when using Remington UMC 115gr. When using WWB or BB or my carry ammo (Federal HS 124gr) it works beautifully.

Damian

shiftyer1
December 4, 2008, 10:29 AM
All I have used in mine has been winchester white box from walmart and I have had zero failures of any kind

rocco7869
December 4, 2008, 11:15 PM
"All I have used in mine has been winchester white box from walmart and I have had zero failures of any kind"

Same here!!!

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