Making a Ruger 10/22 as accurate as a Marlin 795


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y2k600f4
November 27, 2008, 09:17 AM
Looking to purchase a semi-auto (clip) 22LR and after researching I narrowed it down to either the Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 795. I was leaning towards the 795 since a lot say that it is more accurate than the 10/22 out of the box, plus it is cheaper, however the downside is not hi cap mags available. Due to the mag issue I guess I will go with the 10/22 but would like to know what mods would it need to match the accuracy of the 795 out of the box ??? Thanks.

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LKB3rd
November 27, 2008, 09:57 AM
I am new to 10/22's also, but www.rimfirecentral.com has a lot of great discussions about them. It seems that an aftermarket barrel is the best way to improve the accuracy of a 10/22, and Green Mountain barrels are popular over there for their accuracy, and reasonable price.
You can also lighten the trigger by simply installing a Volqartsen hammer, which costs around $30-35 dollars. Tech sights look like a good option for iron sights, with a better sight picture and longer sight radious. Unfortunately, most aftermarket barrels don't have the dovetail for a front sight, but you can get GM barrels with "fire sights."
I am going to get the VQ hammer, and tech sights, and see how that goes. I can shoot pretty decent groups with a totally stock setup. I am still practicing, but with bulk Wal-mart ammo, at 50 feet I have done 3 shot groups with the hits all touching each other.
I love the cheap ammo, so practicing isn't cost prohibitive, and I've been having a lot of fun with my new 10/22. I downloaded and printed up some of the Appleseed free promo targets which are fun. You put them at 50 feet, and it has scaled targets to simulate 100, 200, and 300 yard silhouettes. They have 3, 4, and 5 point areas for each silhouette, and you shoot 3 shots at each one and add up your score, to measure improvements. You are supposed to shoot at the 100 yarder standing, offhand, then the 200 seated or kneeling and the 300 prone. I shoot at an indoor range, so I do the first two standing, then rest my elbows on the shooting table to simulate prone.

JImbothefiveth
November 27, 2008, 10:01 AM
Try shooting a 10/22 first, see if you really need any extra accuracy.

Also, most hi-caps have a reputation for poor reliability.

Z71
November 27, 2008, 10:28 AM
I've owned several 10-22 rifles over the years, and never noted any lack of accuracy. Although none of these were 10-22's of the newest generation.

I have noticed that the trigger may not be the best on some 10-22's, and could use some improvement.

No kidding, a friend has a 10-22 with an aftermarket match barrel, and an aftermarket stock. His rifle shoots no better than the bone stock 10-22 I currently own, and his gun is somewhat less reliable.

TCB in TN
November 27, 2008, 01:41 PM
Buy the Marlin and don't worry about the extra capacity mags. As mentioned above most don't work very well, and you will end up spending a lot more money just to get even. You could end up spending enough to buy two marlins and still not be happy.

420Stainless
November 27, 2008, 01:42 PM
Don't know anything about the Marlin, but I bought a 10/22 from a friend at work back in the late 80's for squirrel hunting and I've never seen the need to look for anything more accurate. Maybe my sample is better than average, but my stock 10/22 is as accurate as I could ever expect an off the shelf rifle to be. Shoot one and see if it is accurate enough for your purposes first. I've also had very good results with cheap Ramline 30 and 50 round mags my friend threw in with the deal. I keep reading how unreliable Ramlines are, but they run good with my gun.

PBinWA
November 27, 2008, 02:11 PM
I had hi-cap magazine (HotLips) feed issues with my 10/22 with sub-sonic bullets but with "full-power" .22's the magazines work no problem.

The speed loaders for hotlips mags are awesome for high volume plinking.

rugerfreak
November 27, 2008, 11:18 PM
Had a 795 and it was garbage---get a 10/22 and don't look back.

ClemY
November 27, 2008, 11:34 PM
One of the things I like about the 10/22 is that it is what I call an Erector Set gun; something that can be disassembled and rebuilt into anything you want. The aftermarket parts available for the 10/22 means you can go from mild to wild or anything in between.

I went with a fairly simple change: Green Mountain 20" stainless, fluted barrel, Kidd trigger, Weaver 2x7 rimfire scope in a Hogue stock. It shoots great and is a lot of fun to play with.

If you like the Marlin, fine, but don't expect to be able to upgrade it through aftermarket parts.

rangerruck
November 27, 2008, 11:41 PM
you can get hi cap mags for marlin, but they are still only 15 rounders.
now then, you can get a remmy 597 to fullfill all your needs, maybe not quite as accurate as the 795 but very close, and you can get hi cap mags, and lots of
replacement parts as well.

X-Rap
November 28, 2008, 12:06 AM
I think your premise that you have to make a 10/22 as accurate as anything is probably flawed.
Dollar for dollar I doubt you will find a more dependable 22 on the market. Say what you will about Ruger himself, he has built some very durable weapons over the years. The only Rugers I have ever had accuracy issues with have been the Mini's.
Better than a 10/22 is the 77/22 if you can find one cheap enough. They run over 2x the price of the 10/22.

madcratebuilder
November 28, 2008, 08:19 AM
First you need to define accuracy, is it 5 moa or .5 moa? If you want a tack driver, less than .5 moa then an out of the box 10/22 may not do it. You can get close pretty cheap by having the chamber recut to match spec and cleaning up the trigger. The trigger does not make the gun more accurate, it makes you more accurate. Some oem 10/22 barrels that have the chambers recut are .5 moa, that is better than some GM barrels.
Tactical Innovations (http://www.tacticalinc.com/index.php) makes the only truly reliable hi-cap mag that I am aware of. They are adjustable and can be made to feed any ammo in any rifle. ymmv

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