Switch from Power Pistol to 231?


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ChuckB
November 27, 2008, 01:27 PM
Hi, all. I've been using Power Pistol behind 115 gr. plated 9mm with good success. Unfortunately, only one shop within reasonable driving distance carries PP, and then only from time to time. Since 231 is readily available nearby, what do you think of my switching over? BTW- please don't tell me to just buy kegs of PP on-line. I'm just looking for a pound every couple of months, and the hazardous material surcharge makes buying that way prohibitive. Thanks in advance for your input.

Chuck

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rcmodel
November 27, 2008, 01:46 PM
Do it!

Power Pistol is unnecessary unless you are trying to get every last bit of velocity possible out of the 9mm.

And that usually isn't the best thing to do with plated bullets anyway.

rcmodel

ReloaderFred
November 27, 2008, 01:48 PM
Winchester 231 is an excellent 9mm powder, as is AA-7, Bullseye, Longshot, HS-6 and HP-38. Any of them will do the job.

For most of my 115 grain plated bullet loads, I use SR7625.

Hope this helps.

Fred

The Bushmaster
November 27, 2008, 02:29 PM
I realize I'm to old to say this (not my generation), but "W-231 ROCKS"...

ReloaderFred
November 27, 2008, 02:49 PM
Gee, I hope you didn't hurt yourself when you jumped up and yelled that, Bushmaster................

Fred

Walkalong
November 27, 2008, 02:51 PM
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W-231 is great stuff for 9MM, as Fred alluded. So are many powders, such as WSF, AA #5, N330, etc. I tried some SR7625 on Freds advise and it is super clean burning and accurate in the 9MM.

KegCommando
November 27, 2008, 02:54 PM
I'm not a very good person to give a plug since I've never been one to experiment, but I have used W-231 pretty much exclusively for 115gr 9mm loads without issues.

I'm also of the recent opinion to use what is readily available to you, so I think it would be worth it for you to develop new loads and make the switch.

ChuckB
November 27, 2008, 03:03 PM
Thanks, guys. 231 it is. Oh- and have a happy and safe T-day!

Chuck

The Bushmaster
November 27, 2008, 03:22 PM
Thanks Chuck...At least YOU have respect for your elders and don't heckle them like those other guys do...:neener:

Galil5.56
November 27, 2008, 04:20 PM
Power Pistol can be "down loaded" if desired with no issues much like Unique. Alliant sent me some 125 grain cast load data that maxed at 5.2 grains. I like WW231 for light to fairly moderate 9mm loads as well, but if you want to be able to push it to the floorboard safely and load to a lower velocity level, maybe give the last bit of your PP a try and see how it goes.

BTW, I have used PP as low as 4.3 grains/125 cast with a velocity just shy of 1000 fps avg. The only 9mm of mine that would function with it however was my Beretta M9.

rfwobbly
November 28, 2008, 01:03 AM
"Power Pistol is unnecessary unless you are trying to get every last bit of velocity possible out of the 9mm." Rcmodel

I also believe W231 is going to do a much better job with 115 and 124gr bullets. At moderate speeds, it's going to shoot very clean and it's going to measure out like a dream. Save your PowerPistol in case you want to load up some 147gr.

;)

JDGray
November 28, 2008, 07:39 AM
Sorry your loosing your PP, its my favorite powder! However in 9mm, I use 5.5 & 6.0gr loads, for 115. Both loads are below the start load, clean and very accurate. Never had good sucess with W231, my Stepdad gave me a pound cause he didn't like it. Its old,
(Steel can) and maybe no good, still smells good, just can't get it to shoot good. So many prople like it, that mine must be no good:D

Marlin 45 carbine
November 28, 2008, 09:31 AM
Bullseye is all I load pistol rounds with when useing cast slugs, it's a little more dirty than PP (the only other powder I use) but tighter groups than PP.

spencerhut
November 28, 2008, 11:59 AM
Not available locally? Fine, start buying from Powder Valley in 48 pound batches of whatever you need, want or think you might need some day. Don't compromise. How else will you ever really get stocked up if you are not buying buy the case? :D

ChuckB
November 28, 2008, 05:49 PM
Not available locally? Fine, start buying from Powder Valley in 48 pound batches of whatever you need, want or think you might need some day. Don't compromise. How else will you ever really get stocked up if you are not buying buy the case?

Um, did you read my original post?

Update: I went to Cabela's today, gift card in hand, to buy some 231. Cabela's doesn't list PP on-line or in catalogs. Well, they were out of 231:eek:, but started carrying Power Pistol, at least at that store. So, I'm set with PP for a while longer. BTW- my current load is 6.1gr. of PP behind a 115 gr. Berry's plated. Works fine, just a little snappy.

Chuck

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