CZ-82 any opinions ???


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ArkansasFatboy
November 30, 2008, 09:51 AM
Guys I have Bulgarian Makarov and have been wanting another but they are hard to find in my area. Whereas it seems the CZ-82 is more comman is this pistol on par with bulgarian mak? I've seen the polish and the other pistols that shoot 9x18 and wasn't impressed but he CZ-82 has my curiosity aroused any info would be appreciated.

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PRM
November 30, 2008, 10:21 AM
Limited experience - I have owned a Russian Makarov in the past and I am sorry I let it go a few years back. Great shooter - never malfunctioned. Just a well designed solid gun. Easy to carry.

Last Wednesday I picked up a CZ- 83 in .380. It is supposed to be a civilian copy of the CZ 82. Mine was in like new condition from Cole Distributers for $230 plus shipping. The final finish on the CZ 83 is definitely better than my Makarov had. It has a double stack magazine so it is a little heavier, little thicker. Still a good size for carry. Very comfortable grip and points naturally. The double action trigger is one of the best I have found on any DA/SA semi-auto. I fired it Thursday after-noon and it was nothing short of great. I was key-holing shots at 30 feet!!! Recoil was comfortable and it shot flawless with both Winchester Talon hollow point, and FMJ. It does not have a decocking mechanism, which is about the only detractor I have with the gun.

I have read some posts where owners have had some failure to feed problems with the CZs. It does not appear to be that common and when it does occur, most of the time it is the magazine. Seems there are some mags out there that have the lips too far apart on them. I probably read close to 150 posts on different sites and the majority (90+%) are very positive.

I have been on the internet throughout the weekend and one thing I am finding right now, is that production made leather concealment holsters are difficult to find listed for these guns. It appears there are some that will interchange, and one can always go the custom made route.

So far I have been really impressed with the CZ quality. Lot of bang for the buck!!!

shamus
November 30, 2008, 11:52 AM
the cz forum might help you: http://www.czforumsite.info/

CZF
November 30, 2008, 01:36 PM
http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulletin/defensive-carry-guns/58778-cz-vz-82-a.html

TripleL
November 30, 2008, 01:40 PM
I have several Makarovs and a CZ-82. I think it's safe to say that most Mak owners who bought the 82 are pleasantly surprised with the accuracy of this fine pistol with its polygonal bore. I always take it along with the Maks when I go to the range because it's simply a very nice and comfortable shooter. I have a P-64 also and my hand is sore after three mags so it stays home more.

There's more heft to the CZ than the Mak because of the double stack mag. The ergonomics are excellent and who can argue with 12+1 firepower? The 82 has a painted finish unlike the finish on your Bulgie. But, overall it is CZ quality and they're still inexpensive. Not cheap...inexpensive.

grimjaw
November 30, 2008, 01:43 PM
What limited experience I have with them was positive. The grip was more ergonomic than the Makarov PM (for me), but because of that it was a slightly larger bulge when trying to conceal it. The trigger on the one I shot was better than the PM, and recoil (subjective) was slightly less harsh.

When they were going for $200-250, they were excellent guns for the money. If 9x18 prices and availability don't dissuade you, I think it would be a solid choice.

jm

Treo
November 30, 2008, 02:42 PM
I can’t compare mine to a Makarov as I have no experience W/ Makarovs but just on it’s own My 82 is a solid performer CZ quality speaks for itself it shoots anything it’s accurate I like the 12 + 1 and it’s inexpensive (less than 200.00$).

JHansenAK47
November 30, 2008, 07:48 PM
cz82 is a good pistol certainly on par with the Makarov except for on the cz 82 the military finish is bad. It scratches easily and usually looks like crap when you get the pistol. Functionally they are great pistols I like the sights on the cz82 much more than the Makarov sights because they are bigger and easier to see. They are fatter than the Mak with their double stack mag, but aren't bad. The safety is also curious because it can only be activated with the pistol cocked. If the hammer is down you aren't going to put the safety on. They have some parkerized CZ82s available from this guy.
http://www.classicarms.us/
Aside from the finish on the milsurp guns they are good pistols. The new manufacture ones are available in satin nickel and glossy blue.

RON in PA
December 1, 2008, 06:19 AM
In my experience the CZ82 is the better range and HD gun as it is more comfortable to shoot due to its size and ergonomics. The Makarov is better for concealed carry.

PTK
December 1, 2008, 07:45 AM
I bought one for.... $140 I think. Worth every single cent, second best surplus handgun I own.

ricklin
December 1, 2008, 08:36 AM
The CZ 82 is a great value. The black painted finish is about the only downside IMHO. I stripped and cold blued my slide so far. Turned out surprisingly good! The best thing about these pistols is their modern features, great trigger esp. for mil surp. The black painted finish comes off with about 4-5 applications of paint stripper and an old toothbrush. The paint does a nice job protecting the steel.
Spare mags are somewhat pricey and a little hard to find. Some vendors offer these with 1 mag some with 2 some with holster, some without. Mags are about 30 bucks so factor that in when shopping. The military holster is a take it or leave it to me.
I think the CZ82 well purchased is currently the best value in a handgun. 9X18Mak can now be had for 11 bucks per fifty for hardball, SD ammo is pricey, but available. I think Hornaday is making their XTP bullet for the Mak dia. I've been shooting 9X18 for over fifteen years, my PA-63 came from the STASI back in the day.
Get one while you can, the supply will dry up.

Galen
December 2, 2008, 01:13 AM
As everyone else has said, the only drawback is the finish. Other than that it is a VERY nice little pistol. Mine shoots to point of aim and feels very good in my hand. I highly recommend them.

Samuel Adams
December 2, 2008, 01:24 AM
The vz82 is accurate and built like a tank. It was my primary carry weapon for a while. I even stripped the enamel off, blued the gun and installed Marschal's Grips. If you get one, don't be surprised about the rifling. It doesn't have conventional rifling. It has polygonal rifling.

Troy308
December 6, 2008, 11:01 PM
I bought one, now I own three!
1. Great ergonomics,
2. Smooth trigger pull,
3. 12 round mag
4. Polygonal rifling (Very accurate!)
5. Military Quality
6. Easy to break down and maintain

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