250 Grain XTP's for 45acp


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Dickieray
November 30, 2008, 02:01 PM
Anyone ever use these in 45 ACP casings ???
My son-in-law had some he was trying in a black powder rifle and went to a heavier bullet. I've never used anything over 230 grain. If you have.....how did it work....and .....what was your load specifications???
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Walkalong
November 30, 2008, 02:06 PM
I have shot quite a few Ranier 250 Gr SWC's in .45 ACP. They shoot just fine. I was using 5.5 Grs of W-231, the same as I was for any 230 Gr lead bullet. Speer # 13 goes to 5.9 Grs of W-231 with their 260 Gr JHP, so it should be fine on pressure. I would not go to 5.9 with a 250 or 260 Gr plated or jacketed bullet with W-231 in .45 myself though.

rcmodel
November 30, 2008, 02:17 PM
I think any 250 grain .45 caliber XTP is going to be either a Sabot bullet (No cannulure) or a .452" .45 Colt or .45 Magnum class revolver bullet. (With cannulure)
.45 ACP XTP's are .451".

In either case, you may not be able to get them going fast enough to do much expanding out of a .45 ACP.

But you can certainly load & shoot them.

rcmodel

Dickieray
November 30, 2008, 08:31 PM
They are .452 dia. So you guys think I'd be okay to load them to the mid range limits of 230 grain specs. and just shoot them at the range for practice?

Walkalong
November 30, 2008, 11:02 PM
Yes, but I would hoard those nice XTP's and buy some cheap plinkers myself.

BattleChimp Potemkin
December 1, 2008, 12:32 PM
I have loaded 255gr LRN for .45 auto with either 5.5gr Unique or 4 gr Titegroup (neither one a real handshake, but a fun load none the less!:) The 4 grains was a pin load someone gave to me, to much success). I agree with the above: the XTP is a very tough bullet, the 250 grainers are designed for faster operations (faster than what .45 auto could give her). I did see at one time that Hodgdon and Alliant had +P loading data that incorporated the 250 grainers, but still not close enough in velocity as .45 LC or others. Most of the bullets of that weight need some velo to open.

On the other hand, a slug that heavy and going at a moderate speed (for .45 Auto) would have some interesting penetration potential. I think a COM hit with one of those would drive the heavy slug into the backbone in short order... While not a super tactical opening round, a very heavy slug in my mind would probably not deviate much from POI. Heck, imagine if something like that tumbled!

GooseGestapo
December 2, 2008, 04:53 PM
There are actually 2 different 240-250gr .452" XTP's

One is a 240gr MAG. high velocity for .454Casull ammo, which requires a thicker jacket to keep down pressures. MidwayUSA #559-118. I wouldn't use this with the .45acp

The other is for .45Colt, and others. I,ve used this one with good results in .45acp. MidwayUSA #776-746.

Japle
December 2, 2008, 07:54 PM
I loaded some Winchester 255 gr FMJ FPs for the fun of it.
Over 3.5gr of Clays, I got 615 fps (light!!) and real good accuracy.

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