12ga rifled barrel @ 100yards?


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conhntr
November 30, 2008, 03:36 PM
i have just got permission to hunt in a county that is slug only. if i get a 870 or H&R with a rifled slug barrel what kind of accuracy will i get at 100yards. under 3"?

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ReloaderFred
November 30, 2008, 03:59 PM
With my Remington Model 870, rifled barrel and turkey scope, I get right around 4" groups for 5 shots at 100 yards. I'm casting the Lyman 525 grain wasp waist slug, in AA hulls and wads, with the recommended load of Blue Dot from the Lyman Shotshell Manual.

This load puts deer right down and is impressive on both ends of the shotgun.......

Hope this helps.

Fred

Fred Fuller
November 30, 2008, 04:07 PM
Accuracy with slugs out of shotguns generally depends at least as much on the shooter as on the gun/ammo/sighting system...

lpl (gotta REALLY follow through with a shotgun shooting slugs)

conhntr
November 30, 2008, 04:27 PM
so 100 yards is the max range. im going to scout the property but i really doubt its worth buying a gun just to hunt there

45Badger
November 30, 2008, 05:04 PM
My BPS with Hastings cantilevered scope mount could should cloverleafs at 100 yards using Lightfield sabots. I'd say max sane range (for me) is about 125 yards.

Birdhunter1
November 30, 2008, 05:34 PM
With my H&R USH 20 gauge with a 24" heavy rifled barrel I can get 1 1/4" at 100 yards, using Lightfield Hybrid EXP sabots. at 150 yards I am looking at a 9" drop (verified it) with (according to Lightfields data) 830 ft lbs of energy. Plenty enough to take a deer but I would be picky on shot placement. At 150 yards I was well under a 3" group with 3 shots.

A buddy of mine has an 870 12 gauge with a Hastings rifled barrel and a Simmons Aetec scope. His gun shot well with the Remington Accutips (near 2" at 100 yards with 3 shots) and with the Remington Copper solids his 3 shot groups were comparable to my H&R.

Whenever you test your ammo do all your testing and sight in at 50 yards while the slug is still supersonic.

Friendly, Don't Fire!
November 30, 2008, 05:40 PM
you could use a 12 gauge otherwise, it may be a wise investment, that is IF you can get it now at a good price (or even at all).

conhntr
November 30, 2008, 05:55 PM
i already have a beretta 682, 391, a few 1100s, and a 302. all trap guns. one of the 1100s has a beat up stock anyway i may get a rifle barrel for that and try from there. it just seems like alot of trouble for 1 place to hunt

Friendly, Don't Fire!
November 30, 2008, 06:07 PM
If you have choke tubes, or cylinder bore, just get rifled slugs and use the smoothbores you have. That's what I would do. In fact, I use my mossberg 500 with rifled slugs to hunt where I can't see past about 20 feet (in woods and/or brush).

I have yet to shoot anything with it (except for a few skunks in the summertime with 4Buck).

Owen Sparks
November 30, 2008, 06:38 PM
I helped a buddy sight in a Benelli Nova with a 4X scope. We took turns and both were able to hit a Coke can at 100 yards with Federal sabot slugs.

robsc
November 30, 2008, 09:29 PM
I have a Mossberg 500CG(crown grade) 20ga. with 24inch barrel and rifle sights. The choke is full cylinder bore, not rifled.
Standing up and using a roof support post for a rest, I have placed 5 2 3/4 slugs inside a 3 inch circle at 100 yards. If the barrel was rifled or if I had a scope on it, I wonder how better the accuracy would have been. There was maybe 8 people witnessed it. :what:
A Remington M1100 with a rifled slug barrel and a scope will be accurate and deadly as any centerfire rifle with scope. You can be and feel confident with one. Rem. 1100s are gas operated and don`t recoil alot with rifled slugs. A d%# fine weapon to shoot. I once fired a slug through a Rem 1100 and it was pleasant and accurate with only a bead on the tip of barrel.
A 20gauge Rem 1100 24 inch rifled barrel scoped and chambered to handle 3 inch so you could use 2 3/4 or 3 inch slugs would allow you sell your centerfire rifles and use the slug gun. If factory slug ammo wasn`t so pricey or if one could afford it that would be the deer gun for sure. A 12ga. slug makes tooooobig a hole to use it for deer . A 20 ga makes a hole plenty big enough.

Navy_Guns
December 3, 2008, 08:26 AM
I can hold a 1.3" 3-shot group at 100 yards off the bench with mine using Lyman 525 grain 3" hand loads. $0.25 per round is nice! I shot a 4-point on 22 November at about 40 yards from my tree stand. He took about three steps, stood there for about 10 seconds looking around, and fell over dead.

franconialocal
December 4, 2008, 02:18 AM
I used to have a Mossberg rifled bolt action slug shotgun that was awesome at 100 yds. or less but that was about it.

Borch
December 4, 2008, 09:52 PM
there's a woman that works in a local gun shop that told me the other day that she had shot slugs 220 yards out of a rifled barrel.

I don't find this too unbelieveable. My brother in law shoots an 11-87 with a 24" rifled, ported, cantilevered barrel with a Nikon scope and I've seen him tag clay pigeons at 250 yds. Granted it was a perfect day at the range with no wind and he was shooting from the bench. But I've also seen him shoot cloverleafs with 5 slugs at 125 yds.

Shotguns can effectively reach quite a ways when you match some of the new slug loads with a quality barrel and a good shooter.

Borch
December 5, 2008, 01:50 PM
The biggest issue with slugs is obviously the weight. They are heavy enough that they are not hugely effected by wind, but they drop in a hurry. So having a well sighted in set of iron sights or a properly zeroed scope is vital when it comes to reaching out to and beyond the 100 yd. mark.

I would think hard about going with the rifled barrel if I were you. There are a lot a 2.75 inch sabot slugs that perform far better than a standard slug and the price difference is negligible depending on where you buy them.

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