Narrowing the choices for a Varmint/Target AR


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Voodoo Rufus
November 30, 2008, 05:03 PM
I've been looking around at AR-15 type rifles as of late, and want to get something equally at home on the target range and out shooting prairie dogs. The long barreled AR would fit that description as well as being semi-auto for the fun of it. I would like to get a decent rifle, and the price range is kind of open-ended. I know good optics are a must and I'll be researching that more in the future. Even if the rifle can shoot better than I have skill for at present, it gives me something to work up to. I also plan to learn to reload my own rounds. Definitely looking at .223 caliber 24" with 1:8 twist. Maybe .204s also.

Here's a few that I found:

Stag Model 6 SV - ~$1k. Read some good reviews on it. Saw it at a gun show yesterday listed for $1500, which I thought was absurd.
Rock River Varmint EOP/A4 - ~$1100-1400 depending on options. Looks nice but not rated for 1/2 MOA like the Stag and Les Baer
Les Baer SV - $2k. 1/2 MOA and a lot more money than the others, but are there differences which would make it stand out from the above two?
DPMS Panther Bull 24 Special - another option as well.

From what I've read, RRA and Stag are made by the same companies. Les Baer's are supposed to be very well put together. All of them have lengthy wait times but that doesn't bother me very much. Does anyone have an opinion on these to help me narrow it a bit? My thoughts are either go for the Stag for the value and spend more on optics, or go all out on the LB. The question remains, is it really that much more gun?

Thanks in advance.

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Bendutro
November 30, 2008, 05:25 PM
I bought the Stag. ZERO regrets. The varmints don't care how much you spend.
(Put good glass on it and don't feed it Wolf ammo no matter what you choose)

TIMC
November 30, 2008, 06:11 PM
I have the Stag Model 6 with the 1:8 twist barrel and it is a 1/2" or less shooter at 100 yards with 77 grain bullets.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/timc/stagvarminter.jpg?t=1228086614

Voodoo Rufus
November 30, 2008, 07:29 PM
I've seen your picture a few times during my searches. What scope do you have on it?

TIMC
November 30, 2008, 07:40 PM
I've seen your picture a few times during my searches. What scope do you have on it?

The scope is a Smith & Wesson scope I picked up at the Outdoor Extravaganza in San Antonio a while back for a really cheap price. The scope is 4-18x50mm with a Mil-dot reticle. I don't know who made them for Smith & Wesson but the glass is nice and clear, it also seems to hold zero well. I bought it just to last me until I could afford a nice Leupold but it has done so well on that rifle I have decided to leave it on for a while.

Mannlicher
November 30, 2008, 08:26 PM
I don't do much target shooting. I do have a decent Bushmaster Varminter that I use for shooting crows and Coyotes though.
http://www.myhostedpics.com/images/Mannlicher/bushmasterwithleupold2.jpg

Voodoo Rufus
December 1, 2008, 02:31 PM
Any other opinions on the Les Baer? If not, I think I'll save some money and get the Stag. Leaves more on the side for good optics.

natescout
December 1, 2008, 02:39 PM
Mannlicher, what kind of Leupold scope is that,

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