Smiley on barrel of new pistol?


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redfireftr
November 30, 2008, 11:12 PM
Is it normal for a new pistol to have a noticable smiley on the barrel?

I was looking at a "new" Sig today and noticed that it had a pretty noticable smiley on the barrel. The guy said it was new but all the new pistols that I have ever really looked into might have had a very faint start of a Smiley but not a very noticable one.

I questioned the guy if it had been fired and he replied "only by the factory"

Was the guy bs'n me or what? Also, how many rounds do they normally fire at the factory?

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highorder
November 30, 2008, 11:13 PM
smiley?

redfireftr
November 30, 2008, 11:28 PM
Near the muzzle, the wear mark in the finish of the barrel where it comes into contact with the slide. Thats considered a smiley right?

shooting4fun
November 30, 2008, 11:37 PM
Howdy Redfireftr, and et al.,

For what it is worth, all of my new in box pistols have all had signs of the actions being cycled. There are a couple of points to consider. First, most major and custom manufactures are inclined to function fire everything they produce. The amount that each fires during the function testing varies.

Second, depending on your municipality, they may require the presence of a fired casing from the each unit sold within that jurisdiction. Again requiring the new unit to be cycled.

As to the subjective assessment of noticeable, I would suggest you examine some other new weapons from other retailers and assess how they appear. If time and motivation permit have a look at some of the other samples from friends and acquaintances to see the amount of wear on theirs.

I've got an example just to illustrate another data point for you. I was hosting a shooting session for a friend as he was interested in a particular model pistol. It just happened to be one that I owned, so I made time to let him have a go at it. Well he shot mine a few times, left the range, purchased the gun, returned to the range with his new on and compared the two pistols. He examined them both in great detail to see the differences. He did ask my estimate of rounds launched through mine. The answer of many thousands, completely surprised him. I use mine for monthly competitions and the amount of wear compared to the new was was very close.

All firearms are machines, if they are designed and produced well, they will also wear well. Obviously there are other factors to minimize changes due to fair wear and tear.

If aesthetics are important then you could always keep some cold blue solution handy to address any touch up issues that might be cause for concern. I've found through my gun smithing efforts that the cold blue pen, looks just like a sharpie pen, works really well for touch ups. Much easier to use than the larger jar with the brush.

Hope this helps. Good luck! Happy Holidays!

Cheers!

SimpleIsGood229
December 1, 2008, 12:16 PM
This is normal for SIGs, especially with the .40 S&W and .357 SIG models (from what I hear, anyway).

PO2Hammer
December 1, 2008, 12:37 PM
As soon as I saw the title I knew it would be Sig.

All Sig pistols get smilies right away. My new p226 Navy (new three years ago) came with very noticable smilies.

What you should not see on a new pistol is the recoil spring rub behind the smiley. That takes time to rub away the finish on the barrel.

redfireftr
December 1, 2008, 09:00 PM
The only Sig I have ever bought didn't have much of one when I got it new but I guess some of them do. I guess that pistol could have been handled alot by customers too.

Seems like it wasn't anything for me to worry about too much. Im not afraid of buying used pistols I just wouldnt want to pay new money for one. I passed on the deal because the guy wanted to rob me of my trade gun...

mpc12
December 1, 2008, 09:28 PM
You might want to ask how long it has been there. I have seen older guns get that wear just from handling. I wouldn't worry about it honestly.

The Lone Haranguer
December 1, 2008, 09:48 PM
I was looking at a "new" Sig today and noticed that it had a pretty noticable smiley on the barrel. [...] I questioned the guy if it had been fired and he replied "only by the factory"

On a SIG pistol, the "smiley" covers nearly the full length of the barrel on both top and bottom, and will do so with only a few rounds fired. It only does this to a certain point and then stabilizes. This is perfectly normal as long as there is only a "burnished" appearance, not scratches or gouges.

It is impossible to say from this alone whether the gun was truly fired "only by the factory." I do not know what SIG-Sauer's current policy for test firing is, but some I had in the late 1990s had test targets with five shots fired on them.

GregGry
December 1, 2008, 10:23 PM
I was waiting for someone to chime in that it isn't good because a lawyer will use it against you in court :p

I wouldn't be worried about it being used other then test firing. If you take the slide off and look at the guts odds are you will be able to see some signs of being used for more then a couple test shots. Granted my CZ97B (Which has about 500 rounds through it) is in such good and clean shape my friends thought I never fired it. In the case of my CZ pistols I knew I was the first one to hold it since the factory, since they were dipped in oil like you wouldn't believe :D

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