Lee Classic Turrent Press Questions


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Deer Hunter
December 1, 2008, 11:07 AM
Hello,

I'm going to start reloading this winter. I've been looking at the Lee Classic Turrent press just to start off with. Progressives are pricy, and I want something versatile.

I shoot 9mm for IPSC. My girlfriend loves 9mm and .38 special. I also have two .45 ACPs. I've got two .223 rifles, three 7.62x54R, and one .308. I'm wondering if I can reload the pistol calibers and the rifle calibers on this one press.

I know I'll need the dies and all of that, but being new to this, I don't want to order something that I can't use for all my calibers.

Thanks

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jfh
December 1, 2008, 11:28 AM
See this review (http://www.realguns.com/archives/122.htm).

Jim H.

Walkalong
December 1, 2008, 12:02 PM
It will work well for you.

SASS#23149
December 1, 2008, 12:05 PM
If you can afford two presses,get 2 and have the gf help you reload.The time goes SO much faster when both are involved and getting the job done.
Myself and 2 others get together about once a month for a 'barn session' and prcoess hundreds of brass in short order using 3 presses and just 1 set of dies,plus a trimmer if needed.

rondog
December 1, 2008, 02:31 PM
Arrrrgh! There's no "N" in TURRET!!!:cuss:

But to answer your question, YES, the Lee Classic Turret Press will do all you could ever want to do. Get the 4-hole model with the cast iron base, not the 3-hole model with the aluminum base. The turret rings are only about $10 each, it's a great investment to get one for each set of dies you need. That way, the dies will be setup and never need adjusting, and you can swap calibers in seconds. Changing the powder measure will take longer, but only a minute or two.

Reloading is fun and rewarding, but it's a whole new addiction! Don't expect to save money doing it. You'll make ammo for much cheaper than buying it, but you'll also "need" more and more goodies, then more calibers, different powders and bullets, more guns for different calibers, different kinds of tumblers, electronic scales, your bench/reloading area will morph into a man-cave, and on and on........

This one.... http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp;jsessionid=2WEQLGLTVP0XDLAQBBJSCONMCAEFIIWE?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat602007-cat20847&id=0044122216337a&navCount=1&podId=0044122&parentId=cat20847&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IJ&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20847&hasJS=true&_requestid=123569

SSN Vet
December 1, 2008, 03:27 PM
either get the set from Cabella's or Kempf's...

you will not be dissappointed....

Envisaged
December 1, 2008, 03:35 PM
Too funny Ron Dog - and true!

NC-Mike
December 1, 2008, 04:52 PM
Too funny Ron Dog - and true!

He ain't lying! I just started reloading 9mm luger on the Lee Classic Cast and I was just in the garage counting up my Makarov brass. I have 272 pieces and I was wondering if it was time to order a set of 9x18 dies and an extra turret head yet. :evil:

Deer Hunter
December 1, 2008, 05:12 PM
Alright guys, thanks.

I'll start by getting a 9mm and maybe a .357 mag die set. After that I'll branch out, but money's tight right now.

Envisaged
December 1, 2008, 06:42 PM
When you order the dies get the new turret top as well. As long as you keep the dies in tight - changing calibers is very quick and no new setup time required.

Bear2000
December 1, 2008, 07:10 PM
I use my Lee Classic Turret for .223, 6.5x55, .308, 9mm, and .380. It's a great little press.

Do yourself a favor and buy from Kempfs Gun Shop. Sue will give you a better price and much better support over the long haul. Now when I need something I just tell her to send it and I send some cash the other way - I usually have it in 3 days.

greyling22
December 1, 2008, 07:31 PM
I don't care how tight money is, be sure you get the auto disk powder dispenser and 1 turret for every set of dies. And I have very very cheap. 9mm and 357 make a good starting point. you can use the same powder and bullets. just make sure you follow load table data, and don't forget and put 357 loads in your 9mm.

and if you sub-load some of you loads your GF might love you even more.

RustyFN
December 1, 2008, 07:33 PM
I'll start by getting a 9mm and maybe a .357 mag die set.
Make sure it's a 38/357 die set. Also make sure you buy carbide pistol dies so you don't have to lube the cases. The classic cast turrent is a great press. I have been using one for two years and load 9mm, 38/357, 45 auto and 223.
Arrrrgh! There's no "N" in TURRET!!!
Rondog with an attitude like that you need to check out www.glockpost.com. :neener:
Rusty

rondog
December 1, 2008, 07:41 PM
He ain't lying! I just started reloading 9mm luger on the Lee Classic Cast and I was just in the garage counting up my Makarov brass. I have 272 pieces and I was wondering if it was time to order a set of 9x18 dies and an extra turret head yet.

I suggest you look inside your Makarov cases and make sure they're boxer primed, not berdan. One hole, not two. Most of the 9x18Mak cases I've found have turned out to be Berdan. Grrrr.

NC-Mike
December 1, 2008, 07:56 PM
suggest you look inside your Makarov cases and make sure they're boxer primed, not berdan. One hole, not two. Most of the 9x18Mak cases I've found have turned out to be Berdan. Grrrr.

No snake eyes in this brass!

rondog
December 1, 2008, 08:12 PM
No snake eyes in this brass!

Right on! I'm going to cut down a bunch of 9mm Luger brass and make my own Maks.

The Bushmaster
December 1, 2008, 10:59 PM
Yup, yup and yup...I load up to .30-06 and down to 9mm X 19 on mine.

Deer Hunter
December 1, 2008, 11:03 PM
Alright, I'm about to order it.

I also need something that deprimes brass. I'm sitting on thousands of pieces of brass that's just waiting to be put back into working order.

I guess a tumbler is needed to clean them too, eh?

Deer Hunter
December 1, 2008, 11:10 PM
Well hell, Cabelas ran out!

rondog
December 1, 2008, 11:23 PM
The Classic works great as a single-stage press. There's a square driveshaft that turns the turret, just lift that out and you can use the same die until you can't stand it anymore. I have a Lee universal Decapping die in it's own turret ring, that I use just for decapping.

Deer Hunter
December 1, 2008, 11:32 PM
Aw hell, Cabelas just discontinued that item!

Alright, time to figure out how to buy everything seperate...

jfh
December 1, 2008, 11:46 PM
If you are about to "order it all," then I suggest that

1) you review this thread list (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=335512), and adjust it as needed.

and

2. Order from Kempf's--here (https://kempfgunshop.com//index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=630&category_id=26&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=41) is the link to their Classic Cast Turret package.

Or, try Graf's--but Kempf's will probably be a hair cheaper for this kind of order.

Jim H.

Deer Hunter
December 2, 2008, 12:28 AM
Thanks for the link.

Right now I'm stuck. Do I want a lee pro 1000 progressive from Midway, or the classic cast turret package?

NC-Mike
December 2, 2008, 07:19 AM
Thanks for the link.

Right now I'm stuck. Do I want a lee pro 1000 progressive from Midway, or the classic cast turret package?

I only speak from the point of view and experience level of having just started and believe you stated you were just getting started as well. If thats the case, I'd stay with the turret. It bridges the gap between a progressive and a single stage and that's good for a beginner. Some folks have reloaded for years and have never gone with a progressive. I think I'll be very happy with this auto-indexing turret for quite some time.

This is a great press to start with and get your legs under you and it'll always be put to use, even if you do get a progressive later.

The best features I see is the versatility to switch between auto-index and single stage and the 10 dollar cost of a new turret head allows you to keep your dies mounted and adjusted. That is a huge plus. I have 5 turret heads and a caliber change literally takes minute.

There is less chance you will be disappointed, frustrated and make newby mistakes with Classic Cast.

jfh
December 2, 2008, 09:12 AM
For your reloading needs you do not want a Pro 1000. The two major reasons are

1. It will load no bigger than .223 (or equivalent)

2. It is limited to a 3-die configuration.

If you end up being a real gun nut and need to load 1000s of (for example) .45ACP rounds per month, then the Pro 1000 could be considered.

For now, stay with the turret.

Jim H.

Walkalong
December 2, 2008, 09:26 AM
Ditto on jfh's advise.

Deer Hunter
December 2, 2008, 09:35 AM
Good advice all around.

I placed my orders last night.

Kempf Kit w/ Classic Turret Press (9mm upgraded version)

Lee Carbide Pistol Dies (.38/.357)

Lee Carbide Pistol Dies (.45 ACP)

Frankford Arsenal Impact Bullet

Lee 4 Hole, Classic 4 Hole Turret Press Turret


Lyman "49th Edition Reloading Handbook" Reloading Manual Hardcover

Frankford Arsenal Micro Reloading Electronic Powder Scale

No bullets or anything to prep my once-fired brass for reloading. I figure I need to get really comfortable with the reloading manual first.

jfh
December 2, 2008, 09:43 AM
You're off to a good start, I think. A couple of tips--

Consider calling Kempf's to change the order slightly:

1. Add a balance-beam scale (I like the Lee; many don't) and consider NOT getting the digital. (There's better ones for less, if you still want one).

2. Make sure you have an Adjustable Charge Bar with the Pro Auto Disk Package.

3. I'm assuming you ordered two extra turrets--e.g., one each for the 38/357 and .45ACP die sets. If not, get those--or at least tell the SO they can be a stocking stuffer.

Personally, I would also add a couple of (Wilson) MAX cart gauges, but you can get by with your chambers.

Any other questions, feel free to ask.

Jim H.

Deer Hunter
December 2, 2008, 10:27 AM
The kit comes with a pro auto disk package. Not sure about the charge bar though. The site is not responding right now, so I can't check.

Yes, I ordered two extra turrets.

Thanks for the advice though.

Walkalong
December 2, 2008, 12:26 PM
RCBS 505 scale. Ditch the cheapo digital. If you go digital, buy quality.

Dial Caliper, if you don't have one already. More important than a puller by far.

Harbor Freight (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47257) has good ones cheap. I use mine all the time. The display is easy for my old eyes to read.

You are off to a very good start though.

Deer Hunter
December 2, 2008, 01:15 PM
Thanks for the link to the caliper. I had forgotten about that.

I'm about to my limit, so I'll make due with what I have. When it all gets here and I get it set up, I'll memorize the reloading manual and go from there.

RustyFN
December 2, 2008, 06:00 PM
Congrats, it's a great kit and I'm sure you will be very happy. I love mine.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8da27b3127ccec398914a0e3000000010O00DZOGblm4Yg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

Rusty

benzuncle
December 2, 2008, 10:03 PM
Deer Hunter, Boy are you gonna like your setup. ;) I bought the same outfit from Kempf in January. I was going to use Midway or Cabella's, as they have the same setups, but often they are out and back ordered. The good people at Kempf did right by me. The Charge Bar: It's a $10 item that'll allow you to tweak your 45acp loads. It works with your Pro Auto Disk Powder Dispenser. It will not work for small charges, like the 380acp. Good luck to you. The semi-progressive press is a great way to load! Let us know how everything turns out.

Paradiddle
December 5, 2008, 02:47 PM
Great press and Kempf is GREAT people. I ordered this package from them about a year ago - I do 9mm, 45 and 38/357 now and am about to get into Rifle.

They are fantastic people to deal with and their prices are great - their kit is complete and it's nice to talk to someone who reloads on the phone instead of a monkey at a big store.

Jeff

Deer Hunter
December 5, 2008, 04:47 PM
I got my first midway order in today. I'm reading the Reloading manual's instructions as I type.

Bad timing. Four exams coming up....

RustyFN
December 5, 2008, 07:40 PM
One thing I just thought of, did you buy extra turrets for the other die sets?
Rusty

Frankl03
December 5, 2008, 08:16 PM
I've been using the Classic 4 hole turret for a while now and I really like it. So far I have only reloaded 223 but soon I will be loading 308. One thing that helps me is that I use a single stage press as well for decapping and swaging. I use the turret press as a single stage when sizing, I size all my brass at one time and then tumble to get the lube off.

Have fun!

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