POA / POI Issues with Glock 22: Plz help..


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taprackbang
December 1, 2008, 08:29 PM
I notice that with my Glock that the first few shots that I fire give me a bullseye,
and then almost EVERY shot after that ends up going low and left of the target.
This is at 25 yards.

I have fixed sights and I am shooting 180 grain FMJs. Someone told me that
I should prob. try 155 / 165 grain bullets and look for better groups.
The answer is probably something simple that I have overlooked, but
can one of you experienced semi-auto pistoleros help me out with
some ancient wisdom??

Zanks!

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GregGry
December 1, 2008, 08:41 PM
If the first couple are on target its your shooting thats causing the error. I would say your probably anticipating the recoil and don't have enough trigger finger.

taprackbang
December 1, 2008, 09:19 PM
Hey Greg, could you expound on your assessment?
How much trigger finger do I need??

mpc12
December 1, 2008, 09:24 PM
Typically you want the middle of your first pad on your first finger to contact the middle of the trigger. It varies from person to person, but the idea is that you want to pull the trigger strait back, so your finger has to be in a position that it can. If you find yourself to the left of a target, you typically need to move the trigger finger over a little since you are pushing the gun as you pull the trigger. As for the low shots, put some snap caps into your target mags and shoot away. You will most likley find once you adjust to the recoil, you start the anticipate it and break the gun down early.

Happy Shooting.

gb6491
December 1, 2008, 09:27 PM
+1 on the shooting; after the first few rounds recoil/noise/inter alia start to play havoc with form (happens to most of us from time to time). Check out this chart: http://www.homegunsafety.com/images/correction_chart.gif
Once you figure it out a little conscious effort will correct it. I find relaxing a little and trying not to anticipate the hammer/striker release works best for me
Regards,
Greg

BTW I also find shooting thumbs high and layered (or forward), as this shooter (https://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2203693&postcount=12) is doing, works best for me and polymer/lighter pistols

taprackbang
December 1, 2008, 10:07 PM
Thanks guys

GregGry
December 1, 2008, 10:20 PM
What I find with most shooters is that the first magazine is the best, and it gets progressively worse. For me its much the same thing, except the mag right before I leave is normally the best :D.

What I would suggest is that you put a few dummy rounds in the mag at random intervals. When you hit the dummy round and pull the trigger, if the muzzle jumps down or anything like that, then you have a flinch. You want to get to the point that when you pull the trigger on a dead round that the muzzle stays put.

I would also try doubling up on hearing protection since that will help you focus in more. All and all I am sure with just a little bit of pratice you will become much better.

BCRider
December 1, 2008, 10:51 PM
As a new shooter I know that I have a bad flinch and anticipation problem that shows up here and there. I've also started shooting some .22 pistol and that is actually helping a lot. A magazine or two or .22 then pick up the 9mm for a magazine then back to the .22. This is not only helping me to relax more when shooting the 9 but it's working out a LOT cheaper to boot.... :D

And then there's the Wheel of Misfortune..... I've hit about 1/2 of these in my learning at some point. And not all early on. I've managed to "learn" a couple as I went along and had to unlearn them.

http://home.earthlink.net/~potomac008/Pistol%20Wheel.htm

We were also talking about the snap caps in the magazine deal. That only works if you don't know where they are. If you have 3 or 4 magazines have your buddy load them and put a cap in here and there. Some should have two caps and some none at all. Or if you have that many put them in randomly yourself and then put them all in a bag and smush them around then reach in blind and draw them out as needed. That way you won't know where they are, just that there is one or two in there.

aquapong
December 2, 2008, 07:22 PM
Is your grip getting sloppy after the first few rounds? I had that problem before.

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