Is Cobray still around?


September 20, 2003, 07:33 PM
While I was purchasing my Winchester 1911Ls yesterday, I noticed two parkerized SxS pistols, one in .357/.38 and the other in .45 LC and .410... upon closer inspection, they are/ were manufactured by Cobray.
Now, since the AWB, Intratec has gone out of business, but has anyone else? Were these just rare finds from a company long gone? Thanks for any advice or info...

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September 20, 2003, 07:52 PM
Yep there still around those Macs aren't garbage like the Tec-9's

September 20, 2003, 08:02 PM
Yes, Cobray is hanging in there. Check out their website (

But if you're interested in a MAC type pistol, you'd probably be better served by an MPA-30 from Master Piece Arms. Their website is messed up right now, but check gunsamerica and other places.

September 20, 2003, 08:05 PM
Well, Macs are nice (although my roomate tends to disagree with me) but does anyone know what models those SxS pistols might be? They seemed as simple (operationally) as a side-by-side shotgun, and strongly built... something that'd be good for tackle/ tool boxes, boats, and the like.

September 20, 2003, 11:52 PM
I always thought Macs were made by Ingram. Is Cobray a knockoff?

September 21, 2003, 01:25 AM
Actually, I believe that Cobray is the company that Ingram (the designer) worked for, but I'm not sure.

As for MAC pistols, I'm not getting one until I can get FA. Derned price and age barriers...

Fly Navy
September 21, 2003, 02:08 AM
Does any country, police agency, etc. use these type of submachine guns for service use? I always wondered that and I figured maybe you guys know.

September 21, 2003, 06:01 AM
ingram originally made the macs in powdersprings GA then they moved to texas and went under.cobray is not the same as ingram.cobray took up after the original macs(military armament corp.)went under.cobray started with the SWD(wayne daniels) made macs,which also went under and is now being marketed as fmj,leinad(daniels backwards).made in ducktown down south..the cobray website is in north dakota i think.he makes parts,very good ones.the mac design has been and is being made by lotsa manufactureres today-rpb out of georgia,nighthawk down there somewhere, and elsewhere.some of the current "macs" are assembled by distributers from parts bins from days gone by and some are made and assembled at the factory(rpb)which went back to the original closed bolt design from texas and modified it to improve function.they work quite well and have eliminated all the problems that plagued macs of the closed bolt bolt designs(can get replacement parts,just not completed guns) can no longer be manufactured,they are simply too easy to make fa.the macs did see some use with military units but very limited.never really caught on.go to the website,the guys name is harvey.nice guy and hell call you back and give you the info you need on any mac.or go to good website dedicated to macs.

September 21, 2003, 08:10 AM
I never owned one of any, but as I remember the actual MAC guns were a bit on the expensive side, while the Cobrays were rather cheap and less-well fitted together. You bought a Cobray if you couldn't afford a MAC.... --->$189 Canadian dollars is about $140 US dollars, for example.
Also, Cobrays were the classic "flat receiver parts kits" guns that I saw.

September 21, 2003, 11:46 AM
The Macs always the one in my collection the non educated gunners want to handle first and they usually refer to it as an UZi. LOL:neener:

September 21, 2003, 02:44 PM
For those with a Cobray M11/9 submachinegun, they now make a nice carbine upper that greatly improves control of your bullet hose.

September 21, 2003, 03:44 PM
ingram originally made the macs in powdersprings GA

I worked for them (Cobray) when I was in high school. That was a really interesting job :) They (Cobray) also used to teach several different types of "anti-terrorism" training classes. The classes ran the gamut from unconventional weapons, search and siezure, evasive driving etc ..... I believe they also has some kind of ties with Brigade Quartermasters.

September 21, 2003, 06:39 PM
For those with a Cobray M11/9 submachinegun, they now make a nice carbine upper that greatly improves control of your bullet hose.
My bullet hose works just fine with that stubby little barrel, thank you very much! Control is no problem at all once you know how to shoot them.
Open the stock, lose the strap and hold on, cause you ride it rather than shoot it. :)

September 21, 2003, 07:52 PM
I prefer riding mine with a barrel extention/foregrip screwed on the barrel. I like to get a few of the 32 rounds to hit the target. :) However, I've been eyeballing the carbine upper for a while now.

September 21, 2003, 09:21 PM
rpb has that side cocker too,no more bolt smacking back n forth up top.would be kind fun if rpb or cobray had made a miniture version in 22 l.r. that took stick mags from a ruger auto or something.this way i could actually afford to shoot one.ive seen the adaptors but would rather have a mini scale version.they are fun novelty guns.

September 21, 2003, 10:18 PM
Hey! A Tec 9 junk? Never!:p

September 22, 2003, 12:09 AM
If I remember correctly, MAC (Military Armament Corp) was Werbel's and Ingram worked with him. These are the origional Powder Springs and Marretta open bolt subguns. MAC went Chapter 7 and SWD took over (that's Daniels). The Cobray was the logo that Daniels bought at the bankruptcy auction as well as the famous ...$6.00 guns. Cobray was a combination of Cobra and Moray Eel. Next the guns went to Texas and, I believe, Jim Leatherwood. Now associtates of Daniels has it back.

I bought my first M-10 for $60.00 and first M-11 for $75. Suppressors (SIONICS) were $75 in either of the 3 cal. I bought 25 SWD's for $150 each when SWD went out.

As a trivia teaser, what do the initials SIONICS stand for???

September 22, 2003, 12:41 AM
Sorry, made mistake. I should have said RPB after MAC and not SWD. SWD came after Leatherwood, I believe. My 25 guns were RPB's Most RPB's were Marrieta MAC's stamped on other side with RPB

September 23, 2007, 05:57 AM
I recall also the prices when the Werbells and Ingram started biting the dust. A dealer offered the M-11s for $75. and the M-10s for $65. Back in the 80's I took a hankerin' for a short shotgun and had a Class III dealer find me one. It's a Mossberg M-500 with an 11 and 7/8ths inch barrel, pistol grip and barrel shroud and the neat little "Cobray" insignia on the receiver. It's a very nice conversion but I have never found anyone else who ever owned, saw or handled one. :)

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