Don't bother.


ed dixon
September 20, 2003, 10:21 PM
How many here reload on a regular basis, but exclude some of the calibers they own? In other words, do you load for rifles, but figure 9mm is cheap enough and maybe not shot enough, so why bother? Are there folk who load thousands a month but still buy the step-child in the bunch?

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September 20, 2003, 11:08 PM
I load them all, but typically will buy 30-30, 7.62x39, 8mm Mauser, and 7.62x51.

September 20, 2003, 11:23 PM
I handload to some extent for all calibers I own.
I shoot factory .223 90% of the time. Wolf .223 runs flawlessly in my ARs and exhibits perfectly adequate accuracy for me. It costs about the same as my handloads. I do handload .223 for my bolt guns and my 24" Varmiteer AR. But, I shoot thousands of rounds to one between my regular ARs and my other .223s.
I have several calibers that I don't shoot enough to justify loading. .32 ACP and .25 ACP come to mind. I have the dies, some brass, and some bullets, but have only done it a few times just to do it.
I have never been able to load 7.62x25 that functions in my guns. Again, I can, but don't.
I have the dies to load for 7.5x55 but have no source of brass.
I handload 9mm but occasionally shoot factory. I don't shoot a whole lot of 9mm. I shoot Wolf 9mm in my submachine gun.

Mike Irwin
September 21, 2003, 01:48 AM

I no longer load 9mm.

September 21, 2003, 02:28 AM
I love but don't load:
9x18 Makarov

September 21, 2003, 04:27 AM
Right now, I don't load .44 mag.
Don't have enough brass, and my reloads would be the same price as PMC fodder.
Oddly enough, I do load 9mm.
I shoot 9mm lots.
$3.00 a box to load full-power hollow-point 124's.
Accurate ones.
That's almost like .22
I also haven't set up my press for .45 colt, I have all the stuff I need, but don't use the caliber enough to justify it.
Also, I don't load 10mm at this minute, I have a glock that weakens my brass, so I don't want to wreck my brass.
At some point, I will reload for my razorback, prolly when I get a new 610.
Also, I stopped loading for my 357SIG, I sold one, and got conversion barrels for 9mm, and .40 for my lonely 357SIG.

September 21, 2003, 04:55 AM
I load them all, and with cast bullets to boot (except the .223). Quantrill

September 21, 2003, 06:34 AM
I bought an Ortgies with a somewhat pitted bore in this caliber from a retired LEO and it never occured to me to reload for it. Maybe if I found a set of used dies really, really cheap.......
Otherwise I reload everything rifle, pistol and shotshell.

September 21, 2003, 07:18 AM
i don't load for:
45 acp

everything else i load for. i don't load for those because 1- ammo is cheap enough that i don't feel compelled to, and 2- i don't shoot those calibers very much.

September 21, 2003, 07:34 AM
I bought an Ortgies with a somewhat pitted bore in this caliber from a retired LEO and it never occured to me to reload for it. Maybe if I found a set of used dies really, really cheap......."

Sebago, National Bullet Co. in Ohio makes a LRN bullet for the .32 which makes light loading really easy and inexpensive. I bought a set of .32acp dies over ebay for little money.

I find this caliber a good candidate for loading to make soft loads for plinking.

To answer the greater question, I have so far not loaded 9mmLuger -- didn't even buy the dies.

But I enjoy the .32acp, .380acp, 9x18 (Makarov-LSWC), and, of course, who wouldn't enjoy loading for revolvers: .38spl, and I just started loading for my 1895 Russuan Nagant. Now, that is a pure joy!

Lee sells a hybrid 3-die set for the 7.62 Nagant that employs .32-20 brass. The steel sizer die reshapes new (shouldered) .32-20 brass (I use Statline since their rim is not too fat for the Nagant), giving it the proper straight tapered shape of the original Nagant case, but, of course, a bit shorter length. The expander die does what it is supposed to do, and has the Lee flow-through hollow space if that's how you like to add powder. The seater die also applies a nice roll crimp. You will not get the complete gas seal using this system, but the gun fires accurately without solar flares shooting out the sides, as there is a little bit of a seal.

So far, I've used AA#5 and Win231, and Berry's plated 83gr HBWC in .312: diameter).

As a starting point, check out this Nagant loading project web site by George Fisher: and Midway sell the Lee die set.

Black Snowman
September 21, 2003, 01:57 PM
Of the calibers I own the only thing I don't reload is .22 LR, because it's rimfire. if I could get primed cases I'd probably handload that for better accuracy and reliablity ;)

.40 S&W
.357 mag & .38 special
.44 mag
.50 AE
.340 Weatherby Mag
All get reloaded.

Standing Wolf
September 21, 2003, 09:56 PM
I don't bother to load my own .380 A.C.P. ammunition: a.) it's cheap; b.) I don't have a gun with the accuracy potential to make it worthwhile, and c.) I don't take that gun to the range more than once or twice a year, anyway.

If I ever find a High Standard .380 at a reasonable price in good condition, I'll probably order dies and brass and bullets.

September 22, 2003, 05:12 AM
The only I own but don't reload for is the .22 lr's. :)

I have been thinking about not loading 9mm, and have not loaded all that much for it due to price difference, but I decided to buy the tools for it when I was almost out of it and the local shop didn't have any at home (and wouldn't get for months). :rolleyes:

Now I'm waiting for my progressive, and then I'll load more 9mm. :cool:

September 22, 2003, 06:58 AM
Where are you getting cheap 380 ACP ammunition? 9mm will be the last caliber I start loading for. I have my 41 Mag and 45 ACP dies. Now I need to order 44 Mag/Spl, 380 ACP, and 40 S&W dies, or maybe 357/39 Spl too.

September 22, 2003, 07:02 AM
I load for everything I own. It gives me a certain satisfaction to hunt with my own ammo. It also allows me to tailor my loads to the situation at hand. One of the first things I do when I buy a new gun is to buy dies, bullets, and cases; usually before I leave the gun shop. I also like the time I get too spend building the ammo. Some may find it boring, but I just crank up the tunes and load away. I don't think I've fired more than 10 rounds of factory ammo in the last ten years.


Futo Inu
September 23, 2003, 09:45 PM
I'm just starting reloading, and I'm already trying to figure out if there's a way to reload (or more precisely, "load") .17 HMR - ha. My press came with 9x19 conversion kit, but that's the one cartridge I doubt I'll be reloading.

September 24, 2003, 02:54 AM
I probably won't load 9mm very often, but I might for the heck of it, I have the dies.

I suppose if I came by a .25 auto I would likely decline to load for it, also:)

Johnny Guest
September 24, 2003, 08:15 PM
9X19mm, just because it's relatively cheap to buy Blazer for practice and match shooting, and I prefer to carry factory JHP when I carry my High Power.

I'm set up to load .25 ACP and .32 ACP, but have only one pistol for each, and seldom shoot either one.

Now, .45 ACP, .45 Colt, .38 Spl, on the other hand - - - I load LOTS of them.


September 24, 2003, 09:42 PM
I've debated whether or not to reload 9mm and finally decided that I WILL. I haven't been happy with some of the surplus stuff I've been seeing and I'd rather make my own.

I use to reload 7.62x39 but sold my reloading stuff to a TFL member. Kinda lost interest in that caliber.

I still buy 357mag ammo since I don't have reloading dies. YET!!

I have everything I need for 308 reloading but just haven't gotten around to it.

99% of the .223 I shoot are my handloads.

September 24, 2003, 11:16 PM
I load for everything I own. (About 15 calibers right now) plus have dies etc for about 10 I dont own.

September 25, 2003, 05:22 PM
Where do you get 9mm hollow points cheap enough to load rounds @ $3.00 for 50 ?
Powder and primer run me ~$.02 > $.03 a round
Where do you get "Hollow Point" (I assume jacketed) for 3>4 cents apiece

September 25, 2003, 05:23 PM
I can load for 7.62x39, but generally don't since I can't buy bullets for the price of factory loaded ammo.

September 25, 2003, 05:45 PM
I don't load much .308 ammo for my L1A1 as surplus is so cheap. I do load some softpoint ammo for for my step brother to hunt with. Once in a while I'll load some ammo for a pin shoot other than that it's surplus.

September 25, 2003, 05:48 PM
I reload and buy 12g. I reload only .308. I buy 9mm and .22.
In the future ( when I buy the guns) I will reload 10mm and buy .223.

September 25, 2003, 05:56 PM
I dont reload the .22LR...

I don't have a 9mm pistol, don't reload for it, but have the dies and brass...Go figure. (Garage sales make you buy stuff you don't need, the price was right.)


99% of the .223 I shoot are my handloads.

Got any 69gr MK loads you'd like to share? I just started loading them. Did some with 4064 and some with BLC-2.

September 26, 2003, 07:43 AM
I reload for .223, .303 Britsh, 30-30 and 9mm. Will start on 38 Spec/357 shortly. Only things I don't reload for is .22 and shotgun ammo.

The 9mm probably costs me just as much as buying factory, but I prefer to reload. I spend more time thinking/reading and doing reloading that I do shooting. Just as well I find it a pleasurable thing to do.


September 26, 2003, 08:37 PM
renaissance, I load rainier 124 HP bullets.
These are plated, not jacketed, but they shoot fine at +p velocities, even 357SIG velocities.
I buy bullets, primers, and powders in bulk in large quantities.
Sometimes, with shipping all the stuff adds up to slightly over $3.00 a box, but not much.
Even when buying in small quantities, you can load with plated bullets for under $4.00 a box, in 9mm.
Sometimes, you forget that you even pay that much for them when you have a full ammo can or two.
But sometimes you get all the packages at once and the big bills all have to be paid at once.
I constantly check for sales/large quantity price breaks, etc.
Right now natchez has 9mm HP rainier bullets $42.53 per thousand.
Not a great price, not a bad one.
4.2 cents per bullet.
Other brands of plated bullet are sometimes less expensive. Check around.
I've used rainier's because they have always worked well for me.
Buying in lots of 5000+, a lot of companies will give you significant unadvertized price breaks.
Also check with your suppliers for free shipping, and price breaks if you spend over $500.00 at once.
I like
They have cheeeeeeeeaaaap shipping and a 5% price break over $500.00. Call or go to their site.
I use CCI primers, and get them locally in quantity, cheaper than online, no hazmat charges.
Buying powder in 8 lb. kegs gets the price down as well, too.
HS-6, my 9mm powder runs about $12.00 a pound if you shop around, and a pound does over 1000 loads, with my 6.8 grain load.
Graf and sons pays the hazMat charge if you buy 4 kegs, and has almost free shipping.
I'm sure you can do it cheaper if you use a powder that uses a smaller charge, but I like HS-6, and I stick with what works.
I also trade, and use the barter system, for instance, I trade my 9mm reloads to a senior range member for spent brass.
I trade 50 rounds of 9mm reloads for 400 rounds of .40 brass.
Figuring $4.00 a box for my reloads, I just got .40 brass, inspected, and tumbled (He does it when he sorts it.) for a penny a piece. No shipping, no tax. Actually less than that, because it doesn't cost me $4.00 a box to load 9mm.
Then I trade the .40 that I loaded to a good friend of mine for 9mm brass that his friends collect for him.
And so on...
My dillon press has paid for itself so many times over that I thought about upgrading, but mine works so well, I don't want to mess with it.

Mike 56
December 14, 2007, 01:30 AM
I load 7.62x54r, 762x39, 223, 7.5x55, 30/30, 45acp, 32acp, 357mag and 1895 Nagant using 32-20 brass. I enjoy hand loading and like being able to tune to my guns.


December 14, 2007, 01:54 AM
The only caliber I shoot but don't reload for is the .32 ACP.
Since I only shoot 50 rounds a month I don't mind buying a box of Fiocchi FMJ for ~$11 a box.

December 14, 2007, 01:10 PM

Reload for them all. Lead bullets to keep the cost down even further..
With todays factory fodder prices i pity the ones that dont reload. Maybe its worse here in Norway then in the US.

BB John

December 14, 2007, 01:16 PM
I load for all my handguns, most of my rifles. Some of the rifles don't get shot much, so setting up for relaoding would cost more than a few year's ammo supply. I'll get around to it eventually

Mal H
December 14, 2007, 01:23 PM
I load for every centerfire calibe I own including .380 and 9mm. In fact, I sometimes have the dies before I have the firearm. I have a few guns that have never had a commercial round fired in them.

December 14, 2007, 01:24 PM
I load them all. I shoot some a LOT more than others. .45 ACP for instance.

December 14, 2007, 01:31 PM
I am new to realoding, but so far have done .223, 10mm auto, and 9mm. The 10mm costs less than half of buying it new including using Speer GD bullets. .223 I figured around 17-18 bucks per 100. 9mm is really a wash compared to white box from Walmart.
$13 for 1 lb of Titegroup
$23 for 1000 primers (CCI)
$42 for 500 X-treme plated 124 gr bullets
Brass - essentially free
Comes up to about 11.78 per 100

What I don't load for yet......243 Win, 8mm, 7.62x54R

I have plenty of surplus x54R and 8mm. Even though its not the most accurate stuff, still plenty fun to shoot.

I don't hunt deer anymore so I don't go through much .243 these days.

December 14, 2007, 01:40 PM
So how does a 4 year old thread get revived?:banghead: Maybe things have changed.

I reload for everything except 7.62x54R.

December 14, 2007, 01:42 PM
I only reload for accuracy.

Mal H
December 14, 2007, 01:45 PM
"So how does a 4 year old thread get revived?"

Good question! I usually notice those things - oh well. ;)

December 14, 2007, 05:05 PM
I don't reload for .30-06. My only '06 is an M1 which I feed surplus ball. The Greek HXP from the CMP is cheap enough that reloading isn't worth it.

XD-40 Shooter
December 14, 2007, 06:48 PM
I reload ALL of my 40 S&W and 357 mag ammo, as factory ammo in these calibers is rediculous!

My 40 S&W reloads = $5.75/50
My 357 mag reloads = $6/50

Factory 40 S&W Remington UMC = $65/250 rounds
Factory 357 mag ammo = anywhere from $13 to 30 a box.:what:

December 14, 2007, 07:28 PM
Edward429451 - I used H4895 with astounding results in my 1:9 twist bolt rifle with Nosler or Sierra 69 gr HPBT's. 3000 FPS at 14 feet from the muzzle.

December 15, 2007, 12:22 AM
I load for three calibers, and could not imagine buying (or shooting) factory ammo again, with the possible exception of personal defense hollow points. Don't want some lawyer climbing up my butt 'cause I used handloads to protect myself.

December 15, 2007, 02:06 AM
I quit reloading 9mm when Academy started selling it for $3.86 a box for Blazer and $4.86 a box for Winchester FMJ. Once I've shot that up I'll start reloading 9mm again. (It will be a while....)

December 15, 2007, 02:36 AM
I have several calibers that I don't load for, mainly because I don't shoot them enough to jutify expense

I do load
30 carb

do not load
any shotgun
30 luger
8mm mauser

evan price
December 15, 2007, 05:36 AM
With components I bought this week, I am loading .357/.38 special for:
5 cents for projectile, 2 cents for primer and 1 cent for powder. That's $4 a box. Comparable .38SP is $12+ a box, or .357 Mag is $20+ a box.

I am loading .44 MAG with components I bought this week for $5 a box. Factory ammo is $30 a box right now.

I am loading .45 acp with stuff I bought a month ago for $5 a box. New ammo is $12+ a box.

9mm is $6.98 a box at Dicks when you buy it by the case of 500. It costs me about $5 a box to load 9mm FMJ and with the coming increase in primers, powder and lead, it is going to cost me almost $6 a box very soon. As long as I can get new factory ammo for less than $2 a box more I will just buy new. I still reload 9mm +P for my carbine.

So: I don't load any self-defense ammo I intend to carry. No shotgun. No plinking 9mm. No rimfires (duh). No 7.92x57 (No brass that's reloadable).

December 15, 2007, 05:52 AM
9mm is really a wash compared to white box from Walmart.

You aren't buying in bulk then. There is no reason you can't cut your price in half if you do it right.

December 15, 2007, 11:50 AM
I am new to reloading ,I load for 357 mag and 454 casull and a little bit of 45 colt ! it is difficult to purchase componants locally in South florida so most of my bullets and cases have been mail ordered , powder and primers i have found locally ! with the 454 i am using hodgdon lil gun with either hornady or speer jacketed bullets ! powder costs about 19 dollars a pound you get about 200 rounds per pound , bullets are about 21 dollars per 100 ,primers 30 /1000 ! so for 200 rounds using my brass i have 40 bucks for bullets ,20 bucks for powder and 6 bucks for primers ! so about 33 dollars /100 ! factory loads are 22 to 40 bucks /25 :what: so the savings is substancial even on the small scale I am reloading now !i am sure i can save more when i move to cast bullets and can purchase in large quantiities !! kevin

December 16, 2007, 01:25 PM
I reload everything I shoot except 22LR. I load 9mm, 38/357 and 223.

December 16, 2007, 01:35 PM
You aren't buying in bulk then.

You are correct. And I don't plan on buying in bulk either. I don't shoot that much 9mm to make a difference one way or the other.

December 16, 2007, 06:53 PM
Maybe I'm just being stubborn but I reload everything except 22lr. Currently this is:
32 acp
45 acp
308 30-06
Once I've got the componets, what the heck. Keeps me out of the bars and is a great stress reliever.

Steve C
December 17, 2007, 01:37 AM
I don't reload 9Xf18 Mak and .380 ACP at all. Have loaded very little 9mm in the last year choosing to buy it loaded. My .38's, .45's, .357 mag, and .41 mag see nothing but hand loads. I shoot very little center fire rifle and even though I have reloading dies for them I rarely reload the ammo.

December 17, 2007, 01:58 AM
I reload for everything I shoot. One of my favorites is the 7.62x54R. I use 123 gr fmj or sp bullets loaded to just under 300fps. Shoots well in my 91/30, fast and flat, and reduces recoil. 10mm is where I save the most $. I guess that I don't save much money, but do get to shoot more for the money I spend.

March 1, 2008, 08:43 AM
i dont load 7.62x54r or 7.62x39
i do load .357
.454 casull
.303 brit
.45 l.c.

March 1, 2008, 09:24 AM
9mm broke the reload price point for me last summer. I shot up my factory stock, and now will reload it.

March 1, 2008, 09:30 AM
I handload all centerfire calibers I own including 9mm, which I shoot the most.
The only commercial ammunition I buy is for ccw.

March 1, 2008, 09:38 AM
I only reload 9mm and .45 acp.
Don't shoot a lot rifle, so it's not worth for me to reload them.

Uncle Chan
March 1, 2008, 09:42 AM
I shoot about 15 different calibers and personally reload for only 3 (45lc, 223, and 45-70). I would like to reload for the others, but the setup is costly. Besides, my brother reloads for many of the calibers I don't, so I get cartridges from him.

Jacka L Ope
March 1, 2008, 09:43 AM
Except for shot shells and a 25-06 that I rarely shoot, I load all my own stuff and cast bullets for the pistols.

evan price
March 1, 2008, 12:07 PM
Well, let me rescind the post I made 2.5 months ago. With recent price increases and getting some really good deals on bulk components I am now loading 9mm plinking ammo for $3.50 a box; WWB stuff is about $9 a box now so I am cranking out the 9mm as of a couple weeks ago. Waiting on a 5000-bullet order from the caster as I type.

SO I now load 9mm, .45, .44 Mag, .38 spl, .357 Mag, .308, 6.5x55

March 1, 2008, 01:58 PM
Wow, a thread from 9-20-03!

If a round is reloadable, then I WILL reload it! Especially if it is a wildcat, which means either reload it or don't shoot it. That means re-forming cases too. When I bought a .25 auto I reloaded for that as well as cast boolits for it. Latest acquisition is a Cz M-52 in .762 X 25 Tokorav. Cute little bottle neck 30 cal pistol round, looks real nice with 100 grain lee 30 cal 2r lead boolits in them.

Nobody can convince me that reloading does not save money. Besides, we are the original recyclers. Picking up our own empties and those of others makes us look good.

March 1, 2008, 04:34 PM
9mm broke the reload price point for me last summer. I shot up my factory stock, and now will reload it.
Same here, my son wanted some 9mm ammo for his birthday. I bought him 1000 rounds of was $180 plus tax.
It's time to dust off the 9mm dies.

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