Clip Draw


January 15, 2003, 01:11 PM
I recently ordered a Clip Draw device for my compact .45. Delivery was very fast and the product works as promised.

I did notice, however, that the company now has a "universal" clipdraw. Previously, clips draws were only available for 1911 style guns, Glocks and S&W J-frames. The new product will work on ANY gun. The clip attaches to a mounting plate that adheres to the gun with a very strong adhesive that is not supposed to damage the gun's frame and is removable.

So -- if you have a gun you wanted a clip draw for -- but couldnt get it -- take a look again. Another nice feature of the universal clip draw is that you can mount it where you want -- low for more concealment or higher for better access.

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January 15, 2003, 04:47 PM
I have one of those
they work very well with a 5"
but not so hot with a Commander the gun gets butt heavy and tries to rotate out:what:

January 15, 2003, 04:50 PM
Call me paranoid, but having that trigger uncovered bothers me. Neat idea though.

January 15, 2003, 05:56 PM
KMKeller- It makes me uneasy too. But I just checked the website and they recommend carrying on an empty chamber. I've always thought that carrying an empty gun is silly. But to each his own.

January 15, 2003, 06:18 PM
Pinch the clipdraw between the pant and belt for a more secure hold.

This isn't the best method of carry, but it's mighty good for some occasions and I'm glad I have one. Even the thinnest kydex is thicker than nothing!

January 15, 2003, 06:40 PM
Note that the website itself warns against "cocked & locked" carry.

Good for a wheelie or a DAO perhaps. Useless for a 1911-style.

Johnny Guest
January 15, 2003, 07:01 PM
It's not fashionable to admit it, but I've carried 1911-types and Brownings cocked and locked with no holster at all, or with just a cord loop, for so long, the idea holds no terror for me. I admit a certain uneasiness when carrying forward of the hip bone.

My style was always behind right hip, butt forward. Not QUITE as fast as butt-to-rear, but it didn't tend to slip as much. A wide rubber band wrapped thrice around the mainspring housing, just below the grip safety, also retards slippage.

Please Note: I do NOT advocate this style carry for others, and only state that I've done it long and successfully. My pistol, my posterior. ;)

DDGator, do you have a link to a web site for Clip Draw? I just might give the new version a try.


January 15, 2003, 10:43 PM


I dont carry my 1911 in Cond. 1 with the clip draw. Its a way of carrying my 1911 in Cond. 3 in a pinch -- i.e., when I want to put my home defense gun under a shirt to carry for a bit.

I would consider carrying a glock with a saf-t-block in place. A DA gun wouldnt give me any heartburn -- depending on the model at least.

Johnny Guest
January 16, 2003, 01:19 AM
To each his own.

Thanks for the web site.


January 16, 2003, 02:04 AM
Interesting idea. I tried the Kel-Tec clip for my P-11 for a while. Some people love them, but I didn't.

The Universal Model that sticks on with tape scares me a little, not that I don't trust modern adhesives, but I just don't trust tape! :what:

January 16, 2003, 09:35 AM
I know what you are saying Blackhawk, but this sounds like pretty heavy duty stuff. Like liquid rivets they use on aircraft and such.

If you think about it, the clip doesnt really hold all that much weight -- its mostly held by the tension of your belt/pants. If it was going to fail, I would think you would notice it starting to separate at the edges first.

January 16, 2003, 03:31 PM
You're right, but there's some kind of mojo thing with me and adhesives. If it's something that's supposed to be temporary, it takes a hammer, chisel, fire, and grinder to get it off when I want.

If it's something that's supposed to be permanent, it's on the floor when I come back into the room.

If I had a pistol on my belt basically supported by tape, I'd spend way too much time thinking about the tape reading my mind and waiting for the most inconvenient time to let go.

January 16, 2003, 03:56 PM
I've got a couple of pistols I might try out a dedicated ClipDraw on, but I'm not gluing/taping/sticking anything to any of my babies...

I kinda hate that they're going that route, if it discourages the continuing development of dedicated ones. I understand the cost effectiveness issue of course.

Maybe they could do a "blank" version, that could be as little material as neccessary under the grips, with no pre-drilled holes. Then you just drill the holes, cut off any bottom excess, and there ya go.

Then there's the Barami Hipgrip... now THAT I'm considering.

January 16, 2003, 04:05 PM
I agree -- I hope the universal is a fall-back and not the evolutionary end of clip-draws.

I like the way my 1911 fits a lot.

I kept thinking about the Bearami hip grip for one of my j-frames, its just so darn ugly!

January 16, 2003, 04:24 PM
Do not carry handguns in the ready to fire condition.
This is not the recommended safe-carrying method for civilian use.

Lol, I hope they're talking about WITH this clip deal.

January 16, 2003, 04:26 PM
The SAF T Block for the Glock looks like a good idea.

January 16, 2003, 04:28 PM

I think the language you quoted sounds like an over-broad lawyer generalization so no one sues them.

Technically, you should be able to carry Cond. 1 with this clip, not unlike with an IWB -- but I wouldnt do it myself.

January 17, 2003, 10:15 AM
I think the language you quoted sounds like an over-broad lawyer generalization so no one sues them.

I've even seen firearms manufacturers suggest not carrying the firearm with a round chambered. Ditto on some holster makers. It's all about the liability thing.

"Your honor, I shot myself in the foot because I had my finger on the trigger as I was holstering my weapon, but the holster maker said I could carry it that way... I want $10million!"

January 17, 2003, 10:39 AM
Clipdraw in condition two or three is better than unarmed. I'd rather just get an approrpiate holster and go condition 1.

January 17, 2003, 10:53 AM
I have a belt clip for my P11, and I think a ClipDraw would be great for a snub-nose revolver, but I wouldn't go this route with any SA semiauto.

January 17, 2003, 11:56 AM
Good for a wheelie or a DAO perhaps. Useless for a 1911-style.

I dunno...I'm kinda with Johhny on this one. I've been known to carry mex on occassion. A good gunbelt falls right over the triggerguard and protects it nicely. To each his own...

Johnny Guest
January 17, 2003, 12:34 PM
One man's "Useless" is another's method of choice.

Re: Barami Hipgrip - - - Agreed. It is as ugly as, - - - What? Ugly as a crooked judge? But functional, really. I kept one on a M37 for several years, with a Pacymayr adaptor. Worked quite well.

As to Mexican Carry with a single action auto, I am not concerned with safety, for my own use. I took off some pounds a few years back, though, and have to keep my belt cinched up so tight that there's a bit of insecurity about the pistol slipping down my pants leg. More embarrassing than dangerous, but still - - - -

On the other hand, I will not carry a Glock without a holster


January 17, 2003, 12:45 PM
Note that the website itself warns against "cocked & locked" carry.

Good for a wheelie or a DAO perhaps. Useless for a 1911-style.Personally, I won't use them as I want my trigger guard covered with a holster. But I'd be more inclined to use it with a gun that has a manual safety like a 1911 than I would with a wheel gun or glock.

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