wolf ammo ok to shoot?


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Ridgeway
September 21, 2003, 01:14 AM
Just curious if wolf is ok to shoot through a glock & or sig...I know it works ok in some guns but not others...ordering ammo online and it's so much cheaper...

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444
September 21, 2003, 01:31 AM
Please try a search on this topic. It has been discussed many, many times and the same arguments start in each thread. I just gave it a whirl and came up with 14 pages of threads mentioning Wolf ammo.

Spieler
September 21, 2003, 02:05 AM
Gotta agree with 444, this is one of those .223 vs. .308, 9mm vs. .45, AK vs. AR, revolver vs. auto topics that many have strong feelings about. Wolf ammo seems to work for some and not for others. I have used it only in .45 and 9mm through various handguns, including Glocks, and have had no problems with it. It's one of those things that you will just have to try and find out for yourself.

10-Ring
September 21, 2003, 02:17 AM
I don't mind sharing my opinion of the stuff...STAY AWAY FROM IT! IT'S CHEAP FOR A REASON! DANGER, BEWARE!

BluesBear
September 21, 2003, 03:30 AM
My Colt Lightwight Commander Enhanced is 100% reliable with everything EXCEPT Wolf. With Wolf I get a FTE about once every 3 magazines or so.

I still buy it and use it for plinking though. I have an area where I can do walk and draw and general soda can bouncing type stuff. I use the Wolf for this because I don't have to worry about losing any of the empty cases.

I have known people who said their .45s just gobbled it without a hiccup.
I, personally, would not trust it for anything serious however.


Just my tuppence, your results may vary.

Nightcrawler
September 21, 2003, 03:45 AM
Ran a box through my CZ-97 without incident. AKs love the stuff.

It's not "bad" ammo per-say; I mean, it's consistent, and it goes bang, and it's non-corrosive.

The two questions you need to consider are:

-Will the steel cases hurt my gun's extractor?
-Will the laquered cases cause gunk buildup that might cause a jam?

Would have to fire a lot of rounds through your gun to decide if either of the above are the case. Fortunately, Wolf is cheap, if you want to do a real test.

RWK
September 21, 2003, 09:31 AM
Nightcrawler - "YES" to both questions (for most weapons).

Ridgeway - Also search the TFL archives. There must be at least fifty threads re Wolf ammunition. The upshot of all is simple: Some folks have had no problems; many have had problems; why risk Wolf when there are lots of QUALITY, inexpensive brands (S&B, Federal American Eagle, Winchester USA/white box, and so forth). Nothing like damaging a $500+ weapon to save pennies on ammo!

Anyway, my “two cents” worth. Regards – Roy

Okiecruffler
September 21, 2003, 10:07 AM
I ran literally thousands of wolf 9mm thru my P-11 and even more 7.62X39 thru my SKS with out any real problems. Then I bought a case of .223 for the handi-rifle I bought. Poor accuracy and more trouble extracting than I care to think about. Traded it to a fellow with a Rock River who swore it would eat anything he fed it. Last I heard he still had a half a case left shoved somewhere in a dark closet never to be spoken of again.

Ridgeway
September 21, 2003, 11:28 AM
yeah sorry, I remembered to search it after I posted


thx

cool45auto
September 21, 2003, 03:07 PM
My SKS is on a Wolf-only diet as well as my Ruger P97DC. No problems so far with either gun.

hansolo
September 21, 2003, 04:03 PM
My SKS loves Wolf...the one time I bought "expensive" 7.62X39 ammo(UMC), it had one misfeed after another. So.....I only feed my Russian-designed rifle the cheap Russian ammo! I have read so many stories about jammed Wolf steel cases in "nice" handguns, damaged extractors, etc., I am reticent to use it in my handguns. Other CZ owners LOVE it.

Brad Johnson
September 21, 2003, 04:15 PM
I've run several thousand rounds of Wolf through my Springfield XD9, Springfield 1911 Loaded Long Slide, Ruger P90, and Taurus PT 111 without any failures or obvious signs of wear. Aside from the distinctive smell I've found it to be good, inexpensive ammunition.

And yes, this subject has been worn out.

Brad

denfoote
September 22, 2003, 04:53 AM
I shoot the 102gr 9x18 rounds in my Makarov.

I shoot the 122gr 7.62x 39 rounds in my SKS.

I have shot the 115gr 9mm in my Ruger, but do so no longer. The Wallyworld Winchester WB is cheap, on hand at any Wal-Mart, I can get it on demand instead of mail order, and it's brass cased, which does not FU the extractor!!

Commie ammo for commie guns, I say!!

Andrew Wyatt
September 22, 2003, 12:26 PM
I have one gun that's only reliable with wolf. (180 series mini-14, which is going to get fixed soon)


I've never had any problems with it, but i clean my weapons after every outing.

MMcCall
September 22, 2003, 12:55 PM
Yet another example of why we need a THR FAQ.

bountyhunter
September 22, 2003, 01:41 PM
Riddle me this: your extractor is made of steel. If it's a 1911, it's soft steel because it has to be springy. Which will make the extractor last longer:

1) Pulling on the rim of a brass case?

2) Pulling on the rim of a steel case?

Now, add to the mix the fact that that steel case has lacquer on it that can stick to the inside of a hot barrel throat and..... SNAP goes the extractor claw.

The guns designed to cycle that junk have very loose throats and hardened extractors.

benewton
September 22, 2003, 03:57 PM
I'm on denfoote's side in this fight.

Besides, I can't reload 7.62x39 for the case cost, per round, of the Russian fodder.

Besides, since I only fire it in the 4 year old MAK90, $200 NIB, I'm not all that concerned....

AUTIGER04
September 22, 2003, 04:06 PM
No problems here either. I shoot alot of Wolf ammo through my Mak and other surp guns. Everything looks ok. I have the slightest idea about Glocks or the Sig. Sorry that I couldnt help.

bountyhunter
September 23, 2003, 02:17 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23695

Pepe Domingo
September 23, 2003, 04:21 PM
I was a big Wolf defender for a long time. All of my guns loved it (9mm and .223) and I laughed at all of the "DANGER" posts.

Then I was shooting my new Para-Ordnance 9mm. "Bang...Bang...Bang...BOOOOOM!!!!!" Wouldn't you know it, I had one of those blow ups that you only read about. Case head seperation. My mag blew out the bottom and the slide cracked. My hand stung, but I was fine.

I contacted Wolf (actually their importer) and I must say that they were really professional about it. It was almost like they deal with it all the time. Got a refund for the ammo and they paid Para to fix the slide. It actually worked out to my benefit as Para upgraded me to adjustable sights for free.

I guess this can happen with any ammo. I am sure that even top of the line ammo goes boom every million rounds or so. However, I do have a very strong feeling that is backed up by my stinging hands that Wolf goes boom much more often than higher priced ammo.

Forget about ruining the gun. Wolf will replace it. It is just a piece of metal and plastic. Think about your face,hands,eyes and brain. They are not replaceable.

BTW...I hated to make my first post a Wolf bash....I'll try to post something constructive next time.

Pepe Out

Daniel T
September 26, 2003, 03:02 PM
Actually Pepe, that was an extremely informative post, thanks.

I use Wolf in 7.62x39 and 7.62x54R. That's it. Wolf pistol rounds ain't getting anywhere near my handguns.

G21NE
September 28, 2003, 12:22 AM
I will add my 2 pennies... if you have a SKS or AK, fine. But brass cased ammo (or Blazer aluminum cased) goes on sale often enough, and is sometimes cheaper than the Wolf stuff.

See www.natchezss.com for a current sale on CCI Blazer ammo. 9mm is going for $4.92/50 rounds of 115 grain.

I have also heard that Wolf is stinky and dirty. Never shot it myself, though.

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