When to move the guns?


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madmike
September 21, 2003, 02:40 AM
I don't anticipate TEOWCAWKI in the next few days. However.

I'm moving across town from a bad neighborhood to a good one.

I have one safe.

Do I move the guns now, leaving me with just a pistol if SHTF?

Do I move the guns last, leaving them here and exposed meantime?

Do I stagger them over, leaving them unsafed at the far end?

Additional question:

Should I make a big deal of dragging them all out in front of the savages I live near as I do leave (assuming #2)(the cops won't care, but I might freak a few druggies)? Or should I be discreet?

Just a fun thread.

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Preacherman
September 21, 2003, 02:49 AM
I'd suggest that you move them as discreetly as possible, to avoid frightening the sheeple - and, perhaps more important, to avoid giving watching bad guys an idea that your home is a good place to look for guns. When I moved a few months ago, I wrapped long guns in a comforter and carried the bundle out to my truck. Handguns were placed in a large box or two. Ammo was carried out to my truck by hand, at night. The actual moving van didn't carry anything except my gun safe.

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
September 21, 2003, 03:17 AM
The last time I moved it was from an apartment complex into a house in a subdivision. I wrapped the longarms about 3 or so at a time in a blanket or other cover and put them discreetly, still wrapped, in the trunk of one car or in the back area of the 'Burb. It was a ways from the apartment to the parking lot and I did all the carrying on the longarms. Handguns went in a cardboard box. Needless to say the vehicles (and residence door) were locked as soon as the door/trunk was closed. IIRC I moved them in 2 stages, some in the first load, the less valuable (to me) in the later or last load. I'd advise using as much situational awareness as you can anytime you move any items too. You never know when someone is going to want to 'help'.

Regards,
Rabbit.

madmike
September 21, 2003, 03:53 AM
Good advice, but I'm looking more for fun commentary here--I know what I'll actually be doing. (staging them, wrapped, ammo along with each load, so I do have hardware at both ends, and carrying while I do).

And I Said "If I move them LAST" after everything else, after sweeping, mopping, vacuuming...would that be a good time to scare the savages? (And it is legal to carry loaded firearms here, especially on my property, and the police will not interfere. Really.)

So...minds all limber, let slip the chihuahuas of sarcasm.

TarpleyG
September 21, 2003, 08:39 AM
Sounds like it could be fun but I'd worry about one of these cretins following you on the way out. All they have to know is where your new perch is and come back later.

Not worth the instant gratification IMO.

GT

Mark Tyson
September 21, 2003, 08:47 AM
Do the smart thing and sneak your hardware out in the dark of night. If you'r emoving to a good neighborhood they can probably afford to be unlocked for a couple days, assuming nobody else has access to the house and you don't have kids running around or anything.

Save the funny thrills for the movies.

Tamara
September 21, 2003, 08:56 AM
Well, if you've always wanted to stand in your front yard and yell "From my cold, dead hands... damn apes!" in your best Chuck Heston voice while waving an AK overhead, here's your big chance. ;)

berettaman
September 21, 2003, 10:56 AM
(Old Crib)You should never move guns by your self.You also need to move all your guns in one trip to make this work and make it your last trip so you need not return and give the old neighbors a real shake-up.You need a few of your shootin' buddies to help set the scene.Have them arrive in some kind of ATV(Jeep Bronco-camo paint optional).Clothing is variable from uber-tactical black or over the top jungle fatigues.They take up positions between the house and vehicle.You and your crew move quickly to transfer the weapons to the vehicle.(ever watchfull for suspicious charactors ie..lots of scanning side to side.)Once your car is loaded and ready to go,your cover team falls into a qusi escort formation untill you are clear of the neighborhood.Don't take your crew to the new house all gussied up.The new crib insertion should be a stealth operation.

With this type of operation you will always be known as:
"He was a good neighbor,kinda quiet,never made any trouble,who would have thought!" :evil: :evil: :evil:

vertigo7
September 21, 2003, 11:57 AM
My collection is small (6 long guns, 8 handguns) so I had a fairly easy time of it when I moved, but my solution was to case all the guns individually, then packed them in a golf bag carrying case ($15.00 at Wally World). Can't find a picture of one at the moment, but it's a lightweight goretex travel bag designed to enclose a fully-loaded golf bag. It zipped shut and was lockable with small padlocks on the zippers if I were so inclined, and had various "camoflage" markings on the outside for golf vendors. The long guns fit perfectly, plenty of pockets on the outside for my pistols and ammo boxes / accessories. When I got to my new apartment, I just slung in on my shoulder and trudged into the house in broad daylight. The neighbors think I'm a golf nut! :)

The storage locker was moved in the same trip but was brought into the house under cover of darkness so as not to generate any curious visitors.

C.R.Sam
September 21, 2003, 01:19 PM
Rent or buy coffin.
Put guns in coffin.
Get six armed n tac dressed buddys to carry coffin to vehicle.

Tac dressed could be dark suits, depending on your area.

Sam

Chipperman
September 21, 2003, 03:35 PM
Rent the services of an armoured car, complete with armed guards.
Go inside the house and carry out each gun, one at a time, gently laid out on a red velvet tray.

That ought to get some attention.

Ed N.
September 21, 2003, 08:18 PM
Diversion of attention is the key.

Berettaman was close, but he offered no diversion. Try this:

Your shooting buddies, in appropriate tactical garb, show up and enter the house. Ten or fifteen minutes later, they all walk out, each holding one of your weapons, and take up guard positions on either side of the sidwalk, carefully establishing lines of sight in all directions. A moment later, you and another buddy walk out, carrying a large and heavy trunk, which you place into the back of a waiting van.

Your buddies, still carrying the arms, climb into other vehicles and escort you out of the neighborhood.

The neighbors will talk for a year about what-in-hell was in that trunk, and never once realize you were moving the guns.

fish2xs
September 21, 2003, 08:30 PM
be discreet. move them to the safe house first trip - keep a good
pistol handy during the move. minimize your exposure. get to the
better neighborhhod ASAP

and CONGRATS!

dinosaur
September 21, 2003, 08:35 PM
Have Skunky help you.:D

J.J.
September 21, 2003, 08:50 PM
To really stir things up add to the scene.. Edd N tweaked... maybe radios.. have the tactical friends stand outside for a min and hold the radio up.. all mumbleing something into the radio in sequence. and then a mad dash to leave.. if too many ppl stand and watch.. ya know... running to the car and peeling out as you leave... maybe a motorcycle pulling up just before the dash.. making a gesture to.. "start" the process and driving off the opposite direction....

Ala Dan
September 21, 2003, 09:05 PM
Greeting's All-

I'm kind'a leary about persons knowing my business
anyway; and certainly when it pertains to family and
friends or material items (such as firearms) that
I have worked my fanny off to have!:D

With that said, I would move all items of a personal
nature very discreetly and with care; paying strict
attention to detail !:uhoh: Simply put, "know your
surrounding's" before you move the firearms.
Often times, nosey neighbors turn out to be your
best friends; but they also could be the very
persons to set you up for a burglary. My advice is
simple, TRUST NO ONE.:)

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

Stevie-Ray
September 21, 2003, 09:30 PM
Got any bandoliers? I'd hafta sneak all but a couple guns out to the safe area. Then strap a 1911 to your right thigh, a large knife to your left, (Hibben Rambo III would work) drape 2 bandoliers across your chest filled with the appropriate caliber of the paramilitary rifle of your choice which you will be toting by holding the pistol grip and leaning it on your shoulder. Certainly filled mags are better, but are simply lacking in menacing looks, and we're going for effect aren't we? I'm sure the bad guys will be happy you've decided to leave. Might even mind their Ps and Qs, not knowing if any more like you lurk in their hood.

Urban Warrior
September 21, 2003, 09:52 PM
Having just recently moved I can relate to your dilema.

I moved mine when I moved the safe. I just filled the back of the truck with guns,ammo, and accessories. Followed the truck with the safe, and put them right back into the safe at the new place. Backed both into the garage and unloaded. Be as discreet as possible. the less people (good or bad) that know what you have the better.

If you can't do it all at once. I'd get the safe to the new place and as many of the guns soon after......UW

Bigjake
September 21, 2003, 10:25 PM
i'm with the "lots of friends with evil black rifles" camp... or hillbillys. nothing more intimidating than a bunch of good ol' boys sitting around in lawn chairs cleanin deer rifles and lookin just plain ornery!!

jwmoore
September 22, 2003, 11:34 AM
I like the idea of having all your uber-tactical buddies help you move, but you don't really want people to see what you're moving. So I suggest a flash-bang into each neighbors apartment, and lots of smoke grenades throughout the parking lot. Color of your choosing, of course! :neener:

~W

jason10mm
September 22, 2003, 12:12 PM
Man, you guys like to play it risky! The only way to truely be safe is this:

Start with securing your airspace. 2 pairs of F-16s or F-18s is a good start with an AWACS giving support.


You will need some A-10s, Apaches, or a C-130 gunship on call in case of determined ground offensive.

Then, while a perimeter is set up by Rangers free-roping down, a convoy of Bradleys and M1A2s can then approach your house to extract your armory.

If the neighboorhood is really bad, armored vehicles will be sitting ducks. Then you have to rely completely on aircraft. Use the Osprey to drop in a few platoons of marines to back up the rangers. VTOL Harriers will be able to provide CAS. Bring in a Chinook to lift off your stuff in a big container.

Prepping your AO with 155mm artillery or carpet bombing is at your discretion of course.

Sunray
September 22, 2003, 03:23 PM
Carry yourself like a victim and sure as excrement you'll become one. Move 'em on moving day.

Tim McBride
September 22, 2003, 10:31 PM
Hide your guns to move them???

Heck, take them out 2 or 3 at time to the vehicle, load em up and move them the same way into the new house. Our right to bear arms isn't something we should hide like a dirty little secret.

Do you hide your guns when you take them to the car to go to the range?

Bigjake
September 22, 2003, 10:57 PM
Use the Osprey to drop in a few platoons of marines to back up the rangers

dead marines arent much good, better pass on the :cuss: -ing deathtrap osprey and stick with the blackhawk



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