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Madjohn
December 5, 2008, 04:48 AM
i like the look of them but how do they handle. i was thinking about a glock for a while till i saw some reviews on these and im actually really pleased with what ive read. the only downside seems to be the cost of the guns themselves. i was looking for a 9 or a 40. one of the p226 or p339 models i think.

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RON in PA
December 5, 2008, 05:26 AM
You need to go to a range/gunstore that allows you rent handguns and shoot those of interest to you. What feels good to me might feel like a brick to you.

In general all the major pistol manufacturers make good guns and that certainly includes SIG and Glock, but there are also other great guns out there.

hobgob
December 5, 2008, 05:59 AM
ive got a buddy with a 226 and ive always been jelous. they are great guns. im happy with my beretta tho

rhinoh
December 5, 2008, 07:10 AM
I agree on handling them and test firing if possible. I bought my Sig P228 many years ago- was in a gun shop, picking up different guns. Knew little about Sigs then but when I picked up and pointed the P228 I knew it was for me, just felt right. Since then I've also bought a P220 Carry, just feels right and I shoot it well. Note- I also own several Walthers, Berettas, KelTecs, and an XDm. The two Sigs are my favorites though, I'll never part with them.

theken206
December 5, 2008, 07:30 AM
have shot a passel of them and liked everyone Ive had my hands on

Kind of Blued
December 5, 2008, 07:48 AM
I love them. The only reason I rid myself is because I decided that a DA/SA trigger was not for me. I like a consistent pull. I'd love one of their SAO 220s though. I never tried the DAK trigger.

Marcus L.
December 5, 2008, 09:09 AM
Both Glocks and Sigs are good, well made pistols that will fire many thousands of rounds reliably.

Personally, I prefer Sigs over Glocks. The classic DA/SA trigger is one of the best available which breaks clean and crisp. It also has one of the best decocker designs around which you can contol the decoking speed if you want to make as little noise as possible. Then of course there is the Sig accuracy which is better than that of a Glock.

The Glock does have some advantages to it. It is a very simple design and will allow you to more easily take care of it. It has a better finish treatment which is more durable and will resist scratching and heavy corrosion better. The grip can be held with many different handholds while the Sig can't be held with all types due to where the decocker is located. Polymer is also rust proof and doesn't freeze your hand if you grab it in freezing weather.

Just remember, most pistol models are more durable and longer lasting in 9mm. Practice ammunition is much cheaper in 9mm, and as a shooter trying to master pistol fighting the 9mm makes a better choice for its level of controllability. It would stay away from .40S&W unless you get the Sig P229 which was designed from the ground up for the higher recoiling .40S&W cartridge.

If you want to conceal carry go with:
Sig P229 9mm (or .40S&W)
Sig P239 9mm

Glock 19 9mm
Glock 26 9mm

Or, if you want a full sized pistol and don't really want to carry it concealed:
Sig P226 9mm
Sig P229 9mm (or .40S&W)

Glock 17 9mm
Glock 19 9mm

wnycollector
December 5, 2008, 12:48 PM
I own 3 SIGs (P6, P220 and P226) I would not hestitate reccomend them to someone who wants a high quality DA/SA pistol.

If you are looking for a .40...I have a CZ40B that I LOVE! For ~1/2 the price it will outshoot 2 of my 3 SIGs:)

Pilot
December 5, 2008, 01:02 PM
They are great guns, but you need to shoot them to make sure they feel right to you. To me they are blocky and brick like with a high bore axis. I have a P228 which is considered one of their best balanced and I carry a CZ-75D PCR instead.

Its all subjective. If they fit you then great.

Madjohn
December 5, 2008, 06:16 PM
i shot the p226 in 40 and i have to say i didn't much care for the sights on it. i did like the placement of the hammer drop/de-cocker. but i found the glock 17 which i also shot today to be a little more accurate. but that's just me. on the other hand the sig felt more like a real gun to me and not more of a toy like the glock and my xd do. i plan on shooting it in the 9mm before jumping to more conclusions about the sights and accuracy it may have just been the larger 40 cartridge that made it harder to handle properly.

BoilerUP
December 5, 2008, 06:33 PM
I have a P229 in .40 and a G19....I prefer the P229 but I carry the G19 more because 9mm is cheaper to shoot and that leads to higher proficiency.

xx7grant7x
December 5, 2008, 07:01 PM
As far a Sigs go, there are certified pre-owned ones from Sig that have been mechanically refurbished (new springs, barrel, ect) and cosmetically refurbed as well. They look like brand new and I picked mine up for 500$ the down side is, they're hard to find, but a Sig dealer should be able to get their hands on one or two. I've seen 9mm 226's and .40 229's as well as .45 220's in the red cased refurb form, good deal for a good gun

420Stainless
December 5, 2008, 08:18 PM
I bought a .40 S&W 229 10 years ago primarily because I liked the way it looked. Mine is acceptable and very versatile. The medium size and weight makes it very good at going from vehicle to carry and back, and that's mainly what I use it for. It still looks as good as ever and the Trijicons are still glowing for now.

It does not have the fabled accuracy and 'hell and back" reliability that SIG lovers rave about, but it is good enough for my needs. Mine had a habit of not going all the way back into battery with some ammo early on, but I replaced the spring and the problem went away.

Marcus L.
December 5, 2008, 08:22 PM
Mine had a habit of not going all the way back into battery with some ammo early on, but I replaced the spring and the problem went away.

Sig Sauer recommends replacing the recoil spring every 5000rds or every 6 years of use.....which ever comes first. The maintenance schedule of most DA/SA pistols is usually more regular than that of striker fired pistols.

420Stainless
December 5, 2008, 08:25 PM
At the time, it had less than 500 standard pressure factory rounds through it. Been fine ever since though.

Sig Sauer recommends replacing the recoil spring every 5000rds or every 6 years of use.....which ever comes first.

Calhoun321
December 6, 2008, 12:28 AM
I just bought a P226 DAK in .40. The trigger is better than anything I have ever experienced. I LOVE IT!!! All of the Sigs have been tested and proven capable of handling .40. You can also now get .22 conversion kits for the 229 and 226.

SJ78
December 6, 2008, 04:48 AM
I dont have one But have shot the 226 several times . All i can say is it's probably one of the most accuarte ! handguns i ever shot .

U.S.SFC_RET
December 6, 2008, 07:23 AM
I have a P220 and a P226 and both are very reliable. The only thing I seen go wrong is the takedown pin lever. Very accurate and will serve you well down the road. Easiest pistols in the world to disassemble and clean I have ever laid my hands on.

The Lone Haranguer
December 6, 2008, 06:26 PM
The "classic" (non-1911) SIGs I've owned have been accurate and reliable, but never fit my hands well as well as having a very long DA trigger stroke which made them difficult to shoot fast and well. I shoot much better with the Glock or CZ. This is personal preference.

Alpine Storm
December 6, 2008, 06:57 PM
I have shot IPSC and 3 gun matches with both. Glocks are for people who can't afford Sigs.

basicblur
December 6, 2008, 07:46 PM
I’m kinda limited to what I can get my hands on livin’ in a poor town, but I seem to have a problem finding SIG’s and HK’s that fit my hand (and it’s gotta be more than a single stack). Maybe I just have a large paw/shorter than normal fingers (wear a medium glove), but I tend to prefer wider grips as long as I can reach all controls.

The P229 fits me (one of my main CCW is a P229R in 357 SIG) and just recently bought an SP2022 which is getting close to being too big AFA grip.

BTW, if you’re thinking ‘bout a SIG in 9mm, search for an SP2022? Got mine for $495 with night sights and three 15 round magazines. Dealer has another one just like it, and from what I understand, this “should” be a normally priced deal? (I’m sure some are trying to make a few extra bucks on ‘em). He supposedly got that deal by buying 10 of ‘em, but said he was surprised when he sold ‘em all that he could get another 10.
http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=33&productid=121

At that price, they’re quite a bit cheaper than Glocks in my neck o’ the woods. Glocks are going for over $500 without night sights and only 2 magazines.

SigP229R
December 7, 2008, 01:06 AM
I have a 229 that I carry concealed daily. I also just purchased a P6 which I have not yet had a chance to take to the range but, if it is as accurate as 229 it will be one more reason I love sig. I also have a Beretta 9mm and a S&W 5903 TSW and I like them also but for simplicity of taking down and re-assembling I will say the Sigs and Beretta's are easier than the S&W'S. However as someone else has already mentioned go and rent and try several before you make your final decision because it needs to fit your needs as far as handeling and what you need it to do.

franconialocal
December 7, 2008, 01:19 AM
I carry a SIG P220 .45 auto every day for work and I absolutely love it.

I've trained with it till I was blue in the face, carried it, deployed it, rolled around in the dirt with it, done tactical reloads and excercises with it getting loaded with sand/dirt/mud, I've had it caked with snow and ice, in the baking sun, soaking wet, bone dry, and EVERYTHING in between. I've put countless rounds of all makes and qualities down the pipe on my professional and private time, and I can say with confidence that I would highly recommend it to ANYONE. The thing NEVER EVER fails me. I have relatively small hands, and for a full size .45 this sidearm is extremely comfortable and smooth as silk. Very manageable recoil and sight re-acquisition. Tritium night sights with an accessory rail as well. In fact, my Chief even said during the last round of qualifications...."What are you doing, drawing smiley faces over there?" Spot on.

The only drawback being the mag. size (8+1).

I just can't say enough good things about this sidearm, say nothing of the fact that they are built right here in NH!!! Good luck with your decision.

SimpleIsGood229
December 7, 2008, 02:11 AM
I love my P229, but that doesn't mean much to you. You have to handle as many handguns as you can get yer grubby mitts on. Only then will you actually know.

76shuvlinoff
December 7, 2008, 09:44 AM
I tried the John Farnum defensive handgun course with with a 6 shot 3.5 inch Springfield 1911. ( still own 1911's so I'm not a basher). I only brought 2mags with me so early in the course I fell behind. I switched to a Sig 2340 I had brought along as a back-up, it was a retired service weapon belonging to a cop buddy. I finished the 3 day course easily with that gun, I ran over 800 rds through it showing it nothing but a bore snake with never whimper from it.

My only problem was during the exercises we had to fire 2-3rds, decock, move, fire 2-3rds, decock and move, repeat, repeat, and being a lefty that decocker was a pain for me. I then bought an XD but someday I want a Sig of my own.

Mark

MarcusWendt
December 9, 2008, 07:15 PM
My first handgun was a Sig Sauer P226 9mm. This was some 20 years ago. I've since acquired about 6 more Sigs. I just can't say enough great things about them. Very accurate, have NEVER failed on me for any reason. They fit my hand like a glove.

When I went on my polymer craze I tried to like Glocks, but I did not find them comfortable in my hands. While the G19 is rumored to be a great gun, I didn't shoot well with it. I tried a Glock in .40 S&W (my preferred caliber) and didn't like them.

I shoot USPSA and have yet to see a Sig fail where as I have seen one Glock and one CZ fail.

I will confess that despite my love for Sigs, I prefer my M&P over my Sig Pro2022 in a polymer gun.

For concealed I love my P239 and full sized goes hands down to the P226ST.

in 9mm the P228 is about the best darn gun I've ever owned and shot. It's a great meeting between size, performance, and capacity. One of the most perfectly balanced firearms I've ever owned.

Sigs have long been thought of as the Cadillac of Production Handguns. Right out of the box they are ready to rock and roll.

They are not cheap, but quality never is.

sig87
December 10, 2008, 10:03 PM
I agree with what ever one has said. I have been looking at guns for a few years. I had lil 25. I felt to under gunned. I have looked at every thing form a high point to a Kimber. I went with a P6 and am very happy with it. It is true they or like a tattoo you cant stop with one. I am aready looking at a 226 40

HKIWB
December 12, 2008, 02:36 PM
I don't own a Sig, but the P226 .40 I borrowed was one of the most accurate pistols I've ever fired.

Jason M
December 12, 2008, 03:54 PM
I know there are a lot of responses already, but here is my $.02.

SIGs recoil differently than clocks. The SIG’s barrel is on a higher plane above your wrist than the Glock barrel. Therefore, the SIG rotates with leverage against you easier when it recoils. The .40S&W can be a little unruly in a SIG for a more inexperienced shooter. The Glock has a kinder learning curve, too. The Glock is DAO (not going to argue this…to me it is DAO) and the SIG is DA/SA. I think the DA/SA design is the best ever for carry, be it CC or duty. However, you have a couple more gadgets on a SIG to incorporate in to practice with the pistol than the Glock because of this.

You really can’t go wrong with either pistol, I have to say.

zoom6zoom
December 12, 2008, 04:25 PM
You can also now get .22 conversion kits for the 229 and 226.
Hadn't seen this before, thanks for the info... checked it out on SIG's site. MSRP is $369 - will have to see what dealers are selling it for.

benzuncle
December 12, 2008, 09:19 PM
My first Sig Sauer was a P220 Compact. I bought a Sig because someone else had a P220 and asked if I wanted to try it. Aw Jeez! WOOT! I still smirk when I shoot it. It makes me look great at the range. I've had the privilege of shooting other Sigs in .40, .357sig, 9 and of course 45's. The important thing is not whether it will be a good firearm; that is pretty much a given. The important thing is how it feels in your hand. That goes for most any firearm out there. If it doesn't feel "right", put it down and walk away. Don't try to sell yourself on it. There are plenty of other firearms out there. As for CPO Sigs: I'd buy one in a heartbeat. BTW: my next Sig will be a 357sig. I've got a U.S. Sky Marshal to thank for that. He insisted I run 100 rounds through his beat up, rusty levered Sig. Hooked, I am. Good luck to you.

krs
December 12, 2008, 09:49 PM
I just got a used surplus Sig 226 9mm from Bud's for $369. It was looking worn (but it coldblued nice and black again). I bought it because it was cheaper than most, held 15 rounds, and I was curious about Sigs.

I've got a lot of guns by anyone's standard (like 23 1911 pistols, and a good sampling of most anything anyone wants to mention) but the only Sig I'd ever owned is a 232.

I gotta' say that I'm VERY impressed with this 226. It went through three magfuls without a hiccough and I was surprised at how clean the single action trigger breaks. Great smooth easy double action too, and even a controllable decocker. Accurate, and a nice soft felt recoil too - a very pleasurable pistol to fire.

I'm a new convert I think - this old pistol is damned good!

Salty1
December 12, 2008, 10:08 PM
I decided to get back into handguns about 6 months ago and did all kinds of research and spoke to many people to get opinions of various makes and models. I went to Bass Pro shop and handled many different models. I went in thinking Glock all the way. After determining what felt more natural in my hand I decided on the Sig P250, then went price shopping as Bass Pro is not shy about their pricing models. Now 6 months later I own 5 Sigs, I added a Mosquito and 3 P-6's (which are a great deal). The bottom line is that no matter what you decide on just make sure it feels natural in your hand. My next will most likely be a 220 Elite, well if I can stash some cash that is...

PhillyGlocker
December 13, 2008, 12:06 AM
I think people by Sigs because they feel like Feds when they shoot and carry them. Stick with the Glocks. It's a much better handgun in my opinion.

BoilerUP
December 13, 2008, 12:15 AM
I think people by Sigs because they feel like Feds when they shoot and carry them. Stick with the Glocks. It's a much better handgun in my opinion.

That's like saying people that buy 1911s feel like prohibition-era mobsters, or people that buy AR15s feel like they're in 'nam, or people who buy AKs want to hold them over their head and yell WOLVERINES!

Glocks are fine weapons, I have a G19 as my primary carry weapon myself...but I've gotta say I prefer my P229 and it has nothing to do with feeling like a "Fed". If I wanted to do that, I'd apply to become one.

BULLSI
December 13, 2008, 04:12 AM
I gotta get an AK.

The neighbors think I'm totaly weird standing outside holding a broom over my head yelling WOLVERINES.

krs
December 13, 2008, 10:30 AM
I feel like I'm still in Nam all the time AR or no AR, but what's this about Wolverines?

JZ06
December 13, 2008, 11:32 AM
I had a west german 226 in 9mm as one of my first hand guns. The thing never failed. I sold it for a smaller 239 also in 9mm which I had for a long time. They're fantastic guns. If you ever have a problem with them, Sig are fabulous to deal with(I sent my mosquito back to them once and received it back in less than two weeks).

I would try before you buy.*(Hindsight 20/20 for me hehe)* that way, you can determine if you like it, are accurate with it etc. Try all sorts of ammo if you can. I have a rule with my guns. They have to eat FMJ and HP's reliably. You MAY want to defend your life with one!

basicblur
December 13, 2008, 12:15 PM
I think people by Sigs because they feel like Feds when they shoot and carry them.

Yeah, that’s the only reason I got one-only problem is I’m a cheap (pragmatic) bastard and just wouldn’t shell out the money. As luck would have it, my local shop got a deal on a P229R so I bought it-now I feel like a (cheap) Fed every time I shoot it, but hey, it’s all good!

‘Course, feeling like a Fed will only get you so far-wasn’t long before I tired of that. Lately I’ve been feeling “gangsta”, and for some reason I have a compelling urge to buy a Glock FOH-TAY!
Also, the feeling of smug superiority knowing “I’m the only person in the room PRO-fessional enough” just makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. :cool:

Whazzup wi’ dat? :confused:

Fenris
December 13, 2008, 05:04 PM
About a month ago I purchased a P226 9mm, and loved it. The first day I shot 250 rounds through it without a single glitch. I would have kept going but I ran out of those little explody things. Since then I've shot about 750, still no problems.

A week ago, I purchased a P239 9mm (which is smaller than the 226). First day I shot 200 and had to stop. At about 150 my wrist standing hurting a bit from recoil and I limp wristed a couple of times. But that was operator fatigue. Other than that, it was perfect, and wildly accurate. Though at the end, I was having some difficulty at 25 yards.

I have a 220ST Elite (45) and a P556 on order. The P556 is just for grins. It is a pistol that fires 223/556. That should be fun. :evil:

schmeky
December 13, 2008, 05:59 PM
Sigs are at the top of the pile. When you have a Sig, you really can't a much better mass produced gun with readily available mags, grips, parts, etc.

I am a CZ guy. Love these things. But I recently bought a Sig P-220 and on the first outing, shot this 220 better than I have been shooting my CZ-97B, and I have fired over 3,000 rounds through this 97. DA-YUM!!

A gun doesn't get to be one of my favorites because of brand name, or what the Fed's carry, or because their cool. My favorites have gotta by God earn it.

Sigs have earned their reputation. Period.

SigSire
December 13, 2008, 06:24 PM
Love them.

But I'm biased. :D

BoilerUP
December 14, 2008, 03:41 PM
I feel like I'm still in Nam all the time AR or no AR, but what's this about Wolverines?

A pop culture reference from a little 1980s World War III movie staring Charlie Sheen and Patrick Swayzee called "Red Dawn".

http://www.spideysenses.com/wp-content/wolverines.jpg

BoilerUP
December 14, 2008, 03:43 PM
Another stereotype, this time against Glock fans...

http://www.topglock.com/images/hnsbig.jpg

basicblur
December 14, 2008, 05:07 PM
but what's this about Wolverines?

From what I understand, it's become a bit of a cult film among teenagers?
I got it on DVD a few months back-not a bad movie to watch once in a while, but I got it for the extras, mainly the interview with the director. Interesting hear him talk 'bout how he pretty much got blacklisted after making a "pro-gun" movie!

IMTHDUKE
December 14, 2008, 05:57 PM
No smoother DA trigger....
http://photos.gafana.com/photos/1566252750996578348874.share.jpg

SwampWolf
December 14, 2008, 06:41 PM
Sig Sauer recommends replacing the recoil spring every 5000rds or every 6 years of use.....which ever comes first.

What if you used it once during the prescribed six year period? Seems like advice that is a little too inclusive to me.

trackaddict88
December 14, 2008, 08:20 PM
‘Course, feeling like a Fed will only get you so far-wasn’t long before I tired of that. Lately I’ve been feeling “gangsta”, and for some reason I have a compelling urge to buy a Glock FOH-TAY!
Also, the feeling of smug superiority knowing “I’m the only person in the room PRO-fessional enough” just makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

Whazzup wi’ dat?

Laughed so hard I couldn't quit coughing for a couple minutes!

Homeboy Nite Sites! Oh you guys are killin' me! :) I'm goin' back to my recliner to be sick and miserable...

Sig 226 .40
December 14, 2008, 08:24 PM
I own A Sig 226 .40, also the .357 Sig barrel to drop in it. I also have a 228 in 9mm. Quick antecdote on my becoming a SIG MAN....I was shooting at a military regional match in VT, using the rack grade Beretta 92. Took the precision match handily and the combat match too. After the match, the Range OIC came over and was talking to our team. Said he had one of his officers(he is a police chief for a living and me and half my team are cops) there who wanted to shoot and coach us. Besides that, he had to use up a partially open case of 9mm. Turns out his officer was none other than Massad Ayoob!!! Well, out came everyones carry guns as well. I saw one of the Green Mtn. Boys had a P228. I asked if I could try it out. Sure he said. I then fired 5 rounds at 25 yds. with the Beretta. You could cover it with a soup can lid. Then I fired 5 rounds from the Sig 228.....****!!!!! I covered those holes with a silver dollar!!! INSTANTLY I HAD TO HAVE ONE!!!!! Took me 3-4 yrs to find a 228 but when I found it...BAM!!! It went with me.
By the way....I have XS Big Dots on both my Sigs. Great investment for these guns.

MarcusWendt
December 15, 2008, 02:03 PM
I think people by Sigs because they feel like Feds when they shoot and carry them. Stick with the Glocks. It's a much better handgun in my opinion.

From a known Glock Troll, we'll take that for what it's worth. Thanks for playing.

Daizee
December 15, 2008, 06:20 PM
My partner found herself a P225, factory refurbed.

She calls it "the gun that men are afraid to love out loud" because it's neither the big manly double-stack or a little pocket auto.

It's the older discontinued single-stack 9mm that's like a miniaturized P220. Man, I LOVE THAT THING (out loud), and I don't even like 9mm. If you don't have monstrous hands, yet don't want a tiny gun, try the P225 or P6. Don't force yourself into a humongous pistol if you can't really fit it in your hands. I'm sorry they discontinued that model. It's a great scaled-down Big Gun for the non-gorilla-grip set.

If there were a .22 conversion upper for it I'd love it even louder.

-Daizee

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