Adjustable AR Stock


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viking499
December 5, 2008, 09:19 AM
Where is a good place to get an adjustable AR stock? What are they made in, 4 and 6 position adjustments? What brand or make is good?

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taliv
December 5, 2008, 09:30 AM
magpul CTR or MOE, from larue, eguns, (in stock) or bravoco (not in stock)

madcratebuilder
December 5, 2008, 09:43 AM
Magpul (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=659510) makes some very nice butt stocks.
CAA (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=516928) makes some good stuff. I'm waiting for a good buy on one of these (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=178188).

Lot of used and new take-offs at AR15.com.

H2O MAN
December 5, 2008, 09:51 AM
Magpul and LMT are my favorites.

benEzra
December 5, 2008, 10:11 AM
What brand of rifle is it going on? If the rifle doesn't already have a milspec receiver extension (buffer tube), you would either need to buy a milspec tube ($40-ish) or use a stock that fits a non-milspec aftermarket tube. I am personally a little fuzzy on this, but others here can clear it up.

From M4carbine.net, via TFL:

Buffer Tube Basics
I know, the correct name is receiver extension tube... so now that we got one of most common mistakes out of the way, let's look at some common questions about receiver extension tubes. I do not pretend to know everything about these rifles, so if you see anything that is wrong, let me know.

This info is for carbine/short/collapsable tubes - all rifle/long/standard tubes are the same (as far as dimensions go)

What is a Mil-Spec Tube? This has to be the most common question. A milspec tube is just as the name implies, made to the specifications of the technical data package (tdp). The biggest concern is the diameter of the tube, the milspec part has a diameter of 1.150, the thread diameter is 1.1875

So the threads are bigger, are they rolled in? The thread are cut in with a regular old lathe. The narrower body section of the tube is reduced by cutting with a concave shaped cutter that "shaves" the metal down, sort of like a plane.

So what are tubes that are not Mil-Spec? During the original cloning of the military AR, the first commercial receiver extension tubes were made from an extrusion, the threads lathe cut and the body was not reduced. The common size for this is 1.170 and that has became the de facto standard for after market tubes.

So commercial tubes are bigger, are they stronger? No, the problem with them is that the threaded section is also 1.170, so the threads are not cut to full "height" and do not fully engage the threads in the receiver. Nearly all of the tubes that I have seen fail in the field broke at the threads or pulled the threads out.

Are there any other concerns with after market tubes? Well, there is really no set standard for size, so they can vary by manufacturer and even from lot to lot -- you can get combinations of after market parts that are tight or loose. Some of them are made with extrusions with an end plug welded in, the quality of the welding can run from pretty solid to pretty poor.

Are those the only two sizes? No, some manufacturers have come out with systems that do not use either the milspec or the aftermarket tube size... The early Choate stock is one example of a proprietory tube.

So what fits what? Milspec tubes work with stocks from Colt, Vltor, CMT, LMT/Crane, etc.

After market tubes work with RRA, BM, DPMS, etc.

A larger, after market stock will fit on a milspec tube, but will be loose and rattle -- a milsec stock will usually not fit on an after market tube... without a hammer.

Hey! My new Mil-Spec tube is too long? Some newer tubes made for the "enhanced" M4 stock are a little longer and have a small taper to the back to match the profile of the stock butt. It should not effect the use of a Mil-Spec stock however.

viking499
December 5, 2008, 10:36 AM
It is going to go on a Doublestar.

Cesiumsponge
December 6, 2008, 11:38 PM
If you need the fancier features in a stock, I fullheartedly believe in Magpul products. Sturdy and top notch!

I also have a Vltor and have no issues with them. I believe they make kits for both commercial and milspec tubes, but doublecheck that before you buy.

gvnwst
December 7, 2008, 09:42 AM
I ave a Vltor, IIRC it is mill spec, and have no trouble with it. The amount of storage space is nice too. These and magpul stocks are really nice, and WAY cheaper than a LMT. CAA has good stuff too.

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