Three-position safety


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MikeJackmin
December 5, 2008, 01:51 PM
Years ago I handled a DA Taurus 9mm pistol that had a three position thumb safety: in the upper position, the gun would not fire and it could be carried cocked and locked; in the middle position the gun can be fired, and in the lowest position, which required overcoming some spring pressure, the hammer would safely drop without firing, and the safety lever would then return to the middle position.

I really like this design.

What other pistols use a similar system?

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rbernie
December 5, 2008, 02:23 PM
That was the latest variation of PT92/99; I know of no other pistol that has such a setup. Most pistols that offer a decocker do not offer a FCG safety, and those that offer a FCG safety do not offer a decocker.

I have one of these, and it's been less reliable (hammer won't always contact the firing pin) than my earler PT92s that do not have the decocker function.

Funderb
December 5, 2008, 02:30 PM
cz 52!

though the decocker has the potential of being unsafe.
mine works, but that doesn't mean I use it without lowering the hammer slowly with my fingers.

MT GUNNY
December 5, 2008, 02:56 PM
To much unnessessary features.IMHO

Ill stick with 1911 or M&P's the Beretta is as far as I go with extra functions.

The Lone Haranguer
December 5, 2008, 03:00 PM
I believe the H&K USP series has such a safety, or can be ordered with one.

Hadoken
December 5, 2008, 03:09 PM
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the Baby Eagle (Jericho, whatever you wish) features that style of safety decocker and I think a Tanfoglio TA-90 I've shot a few times does as well. I remember reading of HK USPs having that safety but I do not remember if it was all models or just certain ones.

Jason_G
December 6, 2008, 12:05 AM
I remember reading of HK USPs having that safety but I do not remember if it was all models or just certain ones.

It's the "Variant 1" USP. FWIW, the USP compacts, and the new HK45's can be had the same way.

Jason

Hawaiian
December 6, 2008, 01:02 AM
Yes, the HK usp and HK45 have this style of safety/decocker. Maybe others, but I have these two and know they do for sure.

zignal_zero
December 6, 2008, 05:07 AM
Hadoken - my Baby Eagle does not have this type of safety, mine has the slide mounted hammer drop safety like a Beretta.

you're probably right on the Tanfoglio, though, becuase i believe some EAA Witness have frame mounted safeties that can be carried C'd&L'd or pushed all the way down and used as a decocker

MikeJackmin
December 6, 2008, 09:58 AM
Thanks! This forum is an awesome resource.

A Witness .45 with this setup would be very close to perfect. I'll keep my eyes out for that variation.

powermad
December 6, 2008, 08:29 PM
FN handguns have this feature if you want it.
I went with the decocker on mine.

On a DA/SA gun I don't really see the need for a safety.
The only gun I would carry cocked and locked is a 1911 type pistol with two safeties.

Myself I wouldn't feel very "safe" carrying my FNP around cocked and locked with just the one safety. But everyones comfort leval is different.

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