Winchester 'sliding top' (mod. 62?) pump .22 question.


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Deus Machina
December 5, 2008, 10:04 PM
Saw one of these at a gun shop, and now I'm really interested in it from a mechanical standpoint. Seen it there before, so might go on my wish list. Really wish I took more not of the stampings.

Thing is, I've never seen one before. Anyone have experience with them?

Tube fed, and the little pump made the whole top of the receiver swivel and slide back.

Did these shoot well? Feed well? Extract reliably?

Price did seem a little steep for something so old with the age darkening and surface rust on it, but there were no major lines where the receiver slid, and the bore looked good. Anyone know a roundabout fair price?

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Logan5
December 5, 2008, 11:04 PM
Sounds like an 1890 or a 1906? I have to say I'm not sure precisely what Winchester we're talking about.

Deus Machina
December 5, 2008, 11:11 PM
Double post, see below.

Deus Machina
December 5, 2008, 11:15 PM
Well, did a little digging, but not sure of a 'fair' price.

Either way, it looks sorta (the pump's now oblong) like this one. The finish is pretty close to the bottom picture, too. A little darker, maybe, colored like really old parkerizing.

http://san1.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/117328000/117328469/pix1262544687.jpghttp://san1.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/117669000/117669789/pix1637420406.jpg

EDIT: A little searching does make it look more like an 1890 or 1906.

Leadhead
December 6, 2008, 02:09 AM
I've got a rossi 62 clone that is fun to shoot and reliable.
It's like this one but with a longer barrel...
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=4809974

gazpacho
December 6, 2008, 04:42 AM
Taurus 62 (http://www.taurususa.com/products/gunselector-results.cfm?series=22L). Remake buy 22lr only. Recentl discontinued, but still on their webste, and still some oiut there.

rcmodel
December 6, 2008, 04:13 PM
The Winchester 1890, 1906, 62, and 62A all used basically the same action design. The later 62A uses coil springs instead of flat springs like the earlier models.

It was designed by John Browning for Winchester, and is another of his brilliant designs.

The locking system is way stronger then necessary for the original .22 RF/22 WRF chamberings.

It has been said they would safely handle .22 Hornet class centerfire chambering, if you could make them feed through the tube magazine!

As far as I know, a single person could not live long enough to wear one out.
They were the .22 Galley gun used in carnival shooting gallerys. Those guns often were fired hundreds of times a day, thousands of times a week, year after year, after year!

If in good condition & not abused / neglected, they are about as reliable as .22 rifles can get.

Also, very accurate!

Also, becoming more valuable as we speak!

Better GetSum!

rcmodel

Harve Curry
December 6, 2008, 04:34 PM
Hey RCmodel,
How accurate is very accurate?
I have a Rossi 16" I'd like to accurize if it were possible.
thanks,

cland
December 6, 2008, 06:53 PM
My Step-Dad's Model 02 he bought in 1926.t lived in the floorboard of a long line of pickups. Home on leave in 1953 I cleaned and lubed it, he never had. My daughter now has it and it still shoots good, shorts, longs, or long rifle cartridges.

My wife has a Mod. 62, its like brand new as is as good as anybody's store bought, better than most.

goon
December 6, 2008, 07:23 PM
Unless you're a collector I'd also seek out a used Taurus or Rossi model 62 instead.
Nothing against the old Winchesters but I'd feel a little guilty using one of them very much.

Deus Machina
December 6, 2008, 10:42 PM
Hmmm... Well, any roundabout price on ugly-but-shootable ones?

I don't like guns for putting holes in stuff as much as I do from a mechanical standpoint. J.M. Browning is like a minor deity to me in that regard. :D

rcmodel
December 7, 2008, 02:18 PM
Hey RCmodel,
How accurate is very accurate? I don't know exactly how to qualify "accurate" as it relates to the Winchester pumps with open sights. They don't take kindly to mounting target scopes on them to see just how accurate they could be.

I have my fathers 06, and the barrel looks like the inside of a stove-pipe from it's early days of corrosive primed ammo.

But it will often put all it's holes under a quarter at 50 yards from a rest, with Marbles replacement open sights.

My 1890 .22 WRF has a Marbles tang sight & hooded globe front, and it will shoot as well as I can hold.

My 62A is also very accurate for an open sighted rifle.

I don't know of any method to "accurize" one, other then putting better sights on them.
A tang peep sight is a worthwhile improvement.

I think thier "practical accuracy" for field shooting is very seldom found in todays modern guns. They come to the shoulder like a fine shotgun, and hitting with them quickly is very easy.

rcmodel

MMCSRET
December 7, 2008, 08:56 PM
In my area, a worn out one that still has all the parts will go for $250.00. I have a 62A from 1947 that has been used hard with not much finish left but still a good rifle and I was offered $600.00 for it, but its family so it stays here.

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