FN FS2000 vs SIG 556 SWAT


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wizzamen
December 6, 2008, 12:45 PM
Help me decide between these two, can't make up my mind. There must be a lot of new owners out there, would love to hear your opinions.

p.s. Please don't suggest a AR, have one, happy with it but I want something different.

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Pulse
December 6, 2008, 01:25 PM
if you really want something different from a AR, go for the FS2000, after all it is a bullpup rifle.
a SIG556 is just like a AR.. just better (will probably get flak for saying that.)

if you just want to go for the cool factor, the FS2000 wins.

i personaly dont like bullpup rifles, so i voted for the SIG.

gotime242
December 6, 2008, 01:38 PM
I agree, if you want something different try the diff platform of the FN. Have you considered the Kel-tecs Rfb at all?

wizzamen
December 6, 2008, 01:46 PM
I agree gotime242 that the Kel-Tec RFB looks like a interesting design but I want to stick with 5.56x45mm NATO ammunition due to cost.

natescout
December 6, 2008, 02:01 PM
FN FS2000 gets my vote , dont know much about them, but they look cool

Click Click Boom
December 6, 2008, 02:16 PM
RFB = Vaporware

Sig = US hack job of a good Swiss rifle

FS2000 = Real Belgium made rifle.

nwilliams
December 6, 2008, 03:42 PM
a SIG556 is just like a AR.. just better (will probably get flak for saying that.)

Not from me, I sold my AR to buy Sig 556 and I don't regret doing so.

I'd love to get an FS2000 but I'm holding out for the civilian SCAR when it come out....I can dream:rolleyes:

Evil Monkey
December 6, 2008, 05:27 PM
The FS2000 just doesn't cut it with me.

$2,000 for a polymer rifle? No thanks. Not to mention the piece on the bolt carrier that picks up the spent casing and shoves it into the ejection tube, I believe it's called the "switch", is also polymer and I've seen pics of it torn in half. ***.

I don't get why people call the sig556 a "hack job". The consumer demanded a more reliable rifle with similar ergonomics to the ar15 family and they got it. Quit complaining.

HeavenlySword
December 6, 2008, 09:10 PM
Bullpup is awesome.

Full legnth rifle shorter than carbine overall!

Id buy the FN F2000, even though its a tad overpriced... by like 400$ -_-

Evil Monkey
December 6, 2008, 09:12 PM
by like 400$

no....by like $1,000 :)

taliv
December 6, 2008, 09:19 PM
both are cool to put in the safe for your collection. i wouldn't want to depend on either of them though

Loomis
December 6, 2008, 09:24 PM
If you want something different, why is the sig even being considered?

yOur choices should be:

1) FN2000
2) steyr STG556
3) saiga

I'd go with the 2000.

HeavenlySword
December 6, 2008, 09:25 PM
well, 800 ish.

Both the F2000 and Sig 556 have MSRP over 2000$

I would use the F2000 for home defense, well, Serbu Super Shorty, but the F2000 is good for defense too

mordechaianiliewicz
December 6, 2008, 09:55 PM
Okay. The real issue as far as I'm concerned is that all of these rifles cost way more than they are really worth.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
December 6, 2008, 10:04 PM
FS2000, definitely.

dscottw88
December 6, 2008, 10:05 PM
Sig 556 doesn't interest me whatsoever. The FN FS2000 does seem to be a pretty sweet rifle though. Iv'e handled them a few times but never shot one. The ergos seem foreign from the familiar AR, but aren't bad by any means. The only downside is that the FS2000 seems to weigh a little more than your standard AR.

Gunnerpalace
December 7, 2008, 05:27 AM
At least the FN comes with sights.

hksw
December 7, 2008, 05:39 PM
I was on a list to get an FS2000 when they were just coming out. I was able to shoot a sample one of my regular dealers had before mine came in. I was not impressed and took myself off the list. If there was a significnat stoppage in the action, the gun would have to disassembled as you cannot get at the action without doing so. With a more standard action like the 556, you will at least be able to see what's going on and probably fix it through the port or mag well. Muzzle noise from the 2000 also louder as it is closer to you.

Coal Dragger
December 7, 2008, 06:05 PM
I handled both at a gun show in Rapid City yesterday. The FS2000 is a big bulky SOB, and the trigger was absolutely wretched. The rifle felt cheap, like a toy. Although it may be durable (unknown at this point), the FS2000 should not cost anywhere near what it does $2K+, it's made mostly out of injection molded plastic or metal casting for crying out loud! It's a $650-$700 rifle in my opinion given the cheap materials (you know it has to cost virtually nothing to make), horrible trigger, and in the case of the rifle I handled the lousy optic that is built in. Yuck.

The SIG 556 SWAT was something that I would have bought on the spot except for the price gouging (typical gun show price), and the wife standing next to me glaring at me the whole time. Smooth trigger (a bit heavy two stage, but very smooth), good ergonomics, good fit and finish, nice solid folding/telescoping stock. My only real bitch with the SIG is the crappy cheap iron sights they put on the rifle. I know aftermarket solutions are available and work well, but come on this isn't a bargain basement rifle give is some good iron sights.

Kind of Blued
December 7, 2008, 06:27 PM
Only the FN takes AR mags, right?

If you already have a bunch of those, how do the prices pan out?

Coal Dragger
December 7, 2008, 06:30 PM
No the SIG 556 was designed specifically to run standard AR magazines.

goldie
December 7, 2008, 07:42 PM
ive got the fs2000,its real cool. never jammed,very compact,accurate,made by fn, its being issued in europe to some police & military,unlike the sig. the thing i hate most about the sig is the ar type stock,they should have used the original. i am sick of that car stock being bolted to everything that moves.the fs2000 can be put in a large gym bag,so you can be discreet.i'm left handed & its the only bulpup around i can shoot...

wizzamen
December 8, 2008, 03:13 PM
I hope nobody is mad at me when I tell you what I did. I still couldn't decide between the FN or SIG, many of you posted good reasons to go with either rifle. I decided to go to my favorite gun shop and see what they have in stock. What I found was a Noveske N4 Light Recce Basic 16", long story short, its sitting in my safe now.

I'd like to thank everyone that posted a reply or voted.

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w122/cooljump1234/r-lrb-556_1d.jpg

No camera so I posted a factory pic.

30 cal slob
December 8, 2008, 05:12 PM
i fondled an FS2000 yesterday at my local blaster shop.

i have to say, the thing is butt freakin ugly, but the ergonomics are strangely ... cozy. :uhoh:

i dry fired it. the trigger pull is not bad for a bullpup (say, compared to a steyr aug, which has a horrible trigger pull).

FN rocks. because they're the only outfit that's been producing new EBR goodness for civilians as of late.

i like the Sig 556 as well and if you are an AR15 shooter you can't go wrong with getting one of these.

well, there is only one way to resolve this dilemma.

get both. :evil:

HeavenlySword
December 8, 2008, 05:53 PM
ha! not everyone can afford em both ya kno

seskipper806
December 9, 2008, 05:57 AM
I've never handled the FS2000, and I don't know much about it, but I do know that the SIG 556 is an excellent weapon. I bought mine about 3 weeks ago and have never been happier with a gun purchase, even though I've been broke ever since. No worries, however, for there will always be another paycheck. :)

MrCleanOK
December 9, 2008, 09:32 AM
Got another AR, huh? Imagine that ;)

I think you made a good choice.

MDW GUNS
December 9, 2008, 09:56 AM
I am disapointed with SIGARMS (now Sig Sauer) products in the last 10 years.
Like every new product from this company the 556 had massive problems when it first came out and I would not want one.
The FS2000 is a nice gun and something different.
I like the way it ballances and the fact it does take the AR/M16 magazines.
The price however is too much. For the $2,000 you can trick out an AR quite a bit or even buy an used HK91/3!

gvnwst
December 9, 2008, 10:25 AM
wizzamen


Nice rifle!

Schuey2002
December 9, 2008, 05:34 PM
Nice pickup on that Noveske N4, Wizzamen!!! :cool:

wizzamen
December 9, 2008, 10:18 PM
MrCleanOK, gvnwst, and Schuey2002, thank you for the compliments. I just couldn't pass on the Noveske, I love it!!!

nwilliams
December 9, 2008, 10:51 PM
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Still Too Many Choices!?
December 10, 2008, 12:01 PM
Can you say," FS2000 with a Suppressor"? I knew you could:evil:!!!

Still 2 Many Choices!?

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