Just Bought a Brand New DPMS Sportical 5.56 on Gun Broker


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4Freedom
December 7, 2008, 03:11 PM
Well, I finally have made a great first step and can call myself a rifle owner. I know I may have made a big mistake, but I purchased a brand new DPMS Sportical 5.56 on GunBroker.com for $882 + $45.00 shipping. Yeah, I know they are worth around $650; however I did not want to wait 1 year to have my first assault weapon. And with Barack Obama in power, I didn't necesarilly want to gamble on my prospects of owning a gun in the future.

Was wondering, do others think this is a bad and hasty move on my part? I have seen some guys on the site selling Sporticals 5.56 as high as $1400. Sure, some of those guys are a bit eccentric, but I felt like it was a good deal. Now, I Can start shooting and learning the ropes and I am happy. I don't need to wait a year. A gun dealer says he will be building a DPMS AP4 Carbine 5.56 with an upgraded barrel in the near future, like 2 weeks - 2 months and will sell me it for $800, so I can have a second gun in my new arsenal. I think this is a good time to start collecting.

Well.. anyone know good places to get scopes and what type of scope to get for this type of gun? Also, I was interested in flip up sights, since the Sportical doesn't have one. I suppose I also need to invest in some magazines and lot of bullets. What is best kind of bullets for the target range that won't destroy my gun? I hear Wolf is to avoid, any good suggestions?

THe person I got from at gunbroker only has 39 reviews, but all are good. I hope they don't gip me, but they look honest.. I hope. . I am a newbie as I said, so I hope I didn't do anything I regret.


Now, I am searching for a LR-308 DPMS. One guy is selling one LR-308 Bull for $1750 and says he willl sell me, a scope and rings for $2300 and throw in a Leupold VX-III 4.5-14x40 scope with it. He is making some claim, that sounds a bit inflated, that he paid $800 for this scope, when I am finding them on some online websites for around $500-$600. He claims the gun is new, only 20 rounds or something through it. Hard to trust people online, what do people think, $2300 for LR-308 bull and scope, dang I didn't want to spend that money, but that is way cheaper than others I seen. I have no way of verifying his scope really is a Leopold, he just sent me a pic, maybe I will upload it and people can tell me if it is a Leopold VX-III 4.5x14-40 like he says. Is there any good places to get high quality scopes for cheap?

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FlyinBryan
December 7, 2008, 03:35 PM
first, congrats.

Yeah, I know they are worth around $650; however I did not want to wait 1 year to have my first assault weapon.

the way ive always felt about this subject is this: in a year the money would have been gone anyway, but you will still have the rifle.

so dont worry about whether you spent too much.

there is a good chance someone will post a stupid chart showing you how many other rifles are way better.

take some advice, ignore it, its not even pertaining to your model.

i think you will find the little panther to be very accurate and reliable.

i dont own one, ive only had colt and bushmaster, but ive been impressed by the dpms rifles at the range.

ive seen many that will shoot 1" at 100yds.

congrats and welcome to the ar club.

Dday
December 7, 2008, 06:03 PM
Given what I'm seeing with prices recently, I think you did fine. A lot of stores and online sites are totally out of AR rifles. Most of those that have them have hiked prices significantly. I've seen a lot of ARs going fo Sig prices lately, so relatively speaking, your price doesn't seem bad. Now, take it out and run some ammo through it!!!

Leanwolf
December 7, 2008, 06:24 PM
You did not buy an "assault weapon." You bought a semi-automatic rifle that is black and looks evil to the gun grabber crowd.

An assault weapon is one that is either automatic when firing, or selective fire through the means of a switch on the receiver.

If I were you, I'd use the proper term when referring to it. Semi-automatic rifle.

The DPMS is a very good semi-automatic rifle, by the way. Congratulations. Stock up on magazines.

L.W.

mcwjr13
December 7, 2008, 06:53 PM
I have one that I bought a while ago and have only good things to say about DPMS. Congrats enjoy it.

R.W.Dale
December 7, 2008, 07:21 PM
I really like the slick sportical upper receiver. When the dust settles on demand I plan on using one on a custom precision upper build

Frog48
December 7, 2008, 07:28 PM
Yeah, I know they are worth around $650;

No, they were worth about $650. Now, they are worth considerably more, and are likely to stay that way.

So dont feel bad about paying what you did.

4Freedom
December 7, 2008, 08:38 PM
You did not buy an "assault weapon." You bought a semi-automatic rifle that is black and looks evil to the gun grabber crowd.

:uhoh: OOPS.. Sorry.. Pardon me..I said I was not experienced with all this.. I will never call it that again.. I am real bad with gun terminology.

Well. I am thankful to own a good quality AR now for a price that is not robbery. Just have to pray to God that it gets to me safely from the dealer.

What type of magazines does this gun take? Do all AR15 magazines work for the DPMS? Can I interchange AR15 magazines on all the differnt type of .223/5.56 DPMS guns? I am also planning on getting an AP4 Carbine later perhaps.

Can anyone advise me what are some good scopes in $100-$200 range for this gun? Can I place any size scope on the sportical? Is there any problems in buying a used Leopold scope? I was told they are one of the best brands.

Timradcliffe345
December 7, 2008, 09:02 PM
Congratulations on your purchase. Does the DPMS Sportical feature a chromelined barrel?

U.S.SFC_RET
December 7, 2008, 09:09 PM
I don't believe the barrel is chrome lined. Moly something. If your intention is to shoot a ton of ammunition than a chrome lined barrel is called for.

As for scopes? Pick and choose. I prefer sights the flip down kind.

4Freedom
December 7, 2008, 09:11 PM
Heres the description:
This auction is for a new in the box DPMS Sportical 5.56NATO (.223), 16" barrel w/A2 flash hider (birdcage), 6 position collapsable stock, comes with a hard case and 2 - 30 round magazines. Flattop low pro design, scope in picture is NOT included! Email with any questions. Better buy now while you still can. Thanks for looking.


I am not really knowledgable, but I don't think it has a chrome lined barrel. It should be just as shipped from the factory. On the DPMS site is says it has a 16" light contour barrel. It doesn't mention the chrome lining. What is the advantage of chrome lining, does it help preserve the barrel or make it last longer? How much would it cost to upgrade the gun to a chrome barrel, including hiring the gunsmith?

jpwilly
December 7, 2008, 09:12 PM
Congratulations on your purchase. Does the DPMS Sportical feature a chromelined barrel?

Seriously Tim, you know it doesn't nor does it have a forward assist or dust cover and OP if you have seen some of the slams Tim gleefully deals out about anything other than Colt AR's you'd be wondering why he's asking like I am.

The sportical will serve most needs. You could end up replacing the upper receiver and bbl if you feel that not having those features will ultimately cause you trouble. Many AR's including my DPMS do have the chrome lined bbl and forward assist. I've never had to use the FA but I've never been in combat either.

Frog48
December 7, 2008, 09:37 PM
Do all AR15 magazines work for the DPMS? Can I interchange AR15 magazines on all the differnt type of .223/5.56 DPMS guns?

Yep, they all use the same mags, they're not brand specific. You can use any brand mag with any brand AR. For example, I have a Bushmaster and DPMS; they both share mags, I dont have certain mags set aside for each gun.

outerlimit
December 7, 2008, 09:57 PM
No, they were worth about $650. Now, they are worth considerably more, and are likely to stay that way.

Yea, just like all the people that said we would never see gas below $4 again. ;)

Timradcliffe345
December 7, 2008, 10:07 PM
4Freedom:

The DPMS sportical could very likely serve you well. Remember to always clean and lubricate your rifle (especially the barrel) after range use and prior to prolonged storage. The sportical has certain limitations, however for your purposes (I am assuming range toy) it would most likely suffice. A chromelined barrel/chamber will let you get by without cleaning it as frequently. With proper maintenance you should be fine. You'll be wanting another AR down the road I can promise you. Look into Charles Daly and LMT for your next purchase if you are looking to upgrade. Good luck and keep us posted. God Bless America, may she always remain free.

FlyinBryan
December 7, 2008, 11:28 PM
You'll be wanting another AR down the road I can promise you. Look into Charles Daly and LMT for your next purchase if you are looking to upgrade.

ya, ive heard good things about those.

have you ever owned either of them?

Timradcliffe345
December 7, 2008, 11:48 PM
a, ive heard good things about those.

have you ever owned either of them?

Of those two I have a LMT. Runs like a charm. The CDD has received rave reviews from users over at m4carbine.net and AR15.com. In fact, it is probably the most gun for the money right now, bar none. Let me know if you have any more questions.

FlyinBryan
December 8, 2008, 12:01 AM
In fact, it is probably the most gun for the money right now, bar none. Let me know if you have any more questions.

ya, i just helped a guy at the range change his gas rings on his lmt.

does your have an "x" stamped on the rear of the carrier, or the "cdxm" stamp?

Trempel
December 8, 2008, 12:07 AM
Congrats! Another AR owner = win for America! :D

Evenflo76
December 8, 2008, 09:11 AM
http://maxicon.com/guns/optics/one_piece/ar15_onepiece_mounts.htm

http://www.ar15.com/content/swat/keepitrunning.pdf

http://ammo.ar15.com/ammo/

http://groups.msn.com/TheMarylandAR15ShootersSite/introduction.msnw

http://www.44mag.com/products.asp?dept=1326

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/educational.htm

This should make youe eyes hurt and have you passing out on the keyboard. :eek:

Congrats :D

cavemandave1975
December 8, 2008, 10:16 AM
$850 for a dpms is pretty good most are over a $1,000 so good job man:D:evil: i have a dpms my self a 18" varmint upper ona mega lower hehe

Timradcliffe345
December 8, 2008, 11:24 AM
FlyinBryan: Im running a BCM BCG in her. Most all of my ARs are Franken guns besides my Colts. I am partial to Colts if you can't tell :). My next AR will most likely be a Charles Daly A4 USMC Build. What ARs do you have?

Legacy 6
December 8, 2008, 01:28 PM
You know... my girlfriend always asks me why I'm buying up stuff right now... She wants a new flat screen TV, and a auto car starter (which I just got her)... I normally respond that it won't be illegal to buy a flat screen in 6 months or a year...

So do I think you're being hasty? Nope. You found a good gun, at a good price, at the right time. Congrats!

innerpiece
December 8, 2008, 07:44 PM
You made a good choice, and bought a nice rifle!

optics are a verry personal decision imo, so try a few out that would be ideal for its intended use.

ip.

youngranger
October 1, 2009, 12:14 AM
You did not buy an "assault weapon." You bought a semi-automatic rifle that is black and looks evil to the gun grabber crowd.

An assault weapon is one that is either automatic when firing, or selective fire through the means of a switch on the receiver.

If I were you, I'd use the proper term when referring to it. Semi-automatic rifle.

The DPMS is a very good semi-automatic rifle, by the way. Congratulations. Stock up on magazines.

L.W.
in fact he did buy an assault weapon. one definition of an assault weapon is any military weapon used in the past or present,and militaries all over the world have had semi-auto.I.E. M-14,SKS,CETME.all are semi-auto and yet they are all classified as a assault weapon. and to get real technichal, your country,state,and local laws can classify a gun as a assault weapon. some things that make and assault weapon are detachable magazines, pistol grips, folding stocks etc.

check this out- http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/assault_weapon please reply if you think im wrong

PT1911
October 1, 2009, 12:19 AM
the price here local is 709 before tax... still, you purchased a good gun.. actually have the same gun... I recently (yesterday) upgraded to a new setup ,see my sore cheeks thread...hehe... but the sportical is a GREAT value. I set mine up with a reflex style red dot and had tons O fun with it.

Evenflo76
October 1, 2009, 12:42 AM
in fact he did buy an assault weapon. one definition of an assault weapon is any military weapon used in the past or present,and militaries all over the world have had semi-auto.I.E. M-14,SKS,CETME.all are semi-auto and yet they are all classified as a assault weapon. and to get real technichal, your country,state,and local laws can classify a gun as a assault weapon. some things that make and assault weapon are detachable magazines, pistol grips, folding stocks etc.

check this out- http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/assault_weapon please reply if you think im wrong
Thank You for clearing that up for us

Tim the student
October 1, 2009, 09:01 AM
in fact he did buy an assault weapon. one definition of an assault weapon is any military weapon used in the past or present,and militaries all over the world have had semi-auto.I.E. M-14,SKS,CETME.all are semi-auto and yet they are all classified as a assault weapon. and to get real technichal, your country,state,and local laws can classify a gun as a assault weapon. some things that make and assault weapon are detachable magazines, pistol grips, folding stocks etc.

check this out- http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/assault_weapon please reply if you think im wrong

I disagree about your definition of "assault rifle", but whatever. You can't reason with the unreasonable, and you can't educate people that are dead set on maintaining ignorance.

BTW, anyone who uses Wiki-anything as a source is severely lacking, IMO.

chrissmallwood
October 1, 2009, 09:07 AM
Come on guys lets keep this about the gun the man bought and not the definition of an assault rifle. We dont want to get this thread locked.

Anyway, I have had a sportical for about a year now and Ive had nothing but good luck with it, Ive tinkered with a few things to make it my own and Im happy with. It may not be the best AR type rifle you can buy but its suits my needs well.

Evenflo76
October 1, 2009, 09:54 AM
Me too. She eats everything I throw at her. No jams yet.

renegade1alpha
November 26, 2009, 12:45 AM
I have a DPMS and I love it! I would however order another barrel because DPMS barrels are not chrome lined.

chrissmallwood
November 26, 2009, 10:15 AM
I have a DPMS and I love it! I would however order another barrel because DPMS barrels are not chrome lined.

If you went that route than you would have spent enough money to buy a rifle with a chrome lined bore. The Sportical is good for what it is, a lower priced entry level AR. Aslong as you keep it clean and take care of it than not having chrome lining wont be an issue.

HOLY DIVER
November 26, 2009, 11:52 AM
CONGRATS on your new AR! it will serve you well! infact after a few trips to the range you may not see the need to ever own anouther AR besides the sportical.....

Walkalong
November 26, 2009, 12:02 PM
in fact he did buy an assault weapon. Interesting first and only post reviving a year old thread.

The correct definition is one capable of full auto.

Calling AR 15s "assault rifles" was started by the anti gunners and repeated over and over by the left leaning media to try to scare voters into voting for anti gun measures.

Plain and simple. End of story. It isn't about guns, it's about control over people.

That said, we don't do politics here.

When the OP (December 2008) purchased his AR the price he paid was not all that bad, considering the times. The DPMS Sportical is a solid rifle. Fortunately, prices are pretty much back to normal for now. Time to get em if you want em. I sure intend to add one to the fold in the coming months.

Guns and more
November 26, 2009, 12:06 PM
One thing about this site. There are always people to tell you you paid too much.
"Why, I got a LMT for $300 last week."
They will tell you whatever you got is a piece of crap. "Colts suck."
Someone will even tell you you should have bought a Glock.

My advice? Shoot it and enjoy it!

Snakum
November 26, 2009, 12:22 PM
The OP really should have bought a Glock instead. I mean, really. He could've bought two Glock 22s for what he paid for the DPMS.





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nulfisin
November 26, 2009, 12:30 PM
Good move. If, as seems the case, you aren't familiar with rifles, this one takes some getting used to. BEFORE you try to shoot it, make sure you are comfortable disassembling the rifle and putting it back together. Know how the gun works. It's not complex, but also not self-evident. I'd go on Amazon and get an instructional DVD. Or, look on YouTube.

Quentin
November 26, 2009, 02:24 PM
No, they were worth about $650. Now, they are worth considerably more, and are likely to stay that way.

Yea, just like all the people that said we would never see gas below $4 again. (by outerlimit, in response to the quote at the top)

Looks like outerlimit's crystal ball was zeroed in a year ago!

Hope the OP has enjoyed his DPMS! My buddy who "panicked" and bought a Bushmaster about the same time has been happy with it. He's felt it was worth the money at the time.

jem375
November 26, 2009, 09:02 PM
Don't worry about chrome lined barrels, the average shooter really doesn't need to worry about it...

Mags
November 26, 2009, 09:06 PM
Alost a year old and we are still telling the OP how good or bad his puchase was, LOL.

PT1911
November 26, 2009, 09:10 PM
did we ever get a range report? What does the OP think about the gun?

X-Rap
November 26, 2009, 09:13 PM
Really sucks for him when the paper today shows Sporticals on sale for Black Friday at $579.00 at Sportsmans. LCP's for $269.00

61chalk
November 26, 2009, 09:26 PM
Looking for a scope right....I really like this site for prices an alot to choose
from.....www.tactical-store.com

svaz
November 26, 2009, 10:38 PM
Before the OP thinks he didn't get the best deal, hey he got one and he's enjoyed it for a year already and with a little bit of luck he'll enjoy it for the rest of his life - pretty good deal when you amortise it that way.

And 'assault' is a verb, not an adjective. If I'm going to assault something in war I'm using artillery and air support; I'd mop things up with a rifle.

61chalk
November 27, 2009, 08:22 AM
Good grief...I responded to a year old thread, never noticed the date..I'm sure he has
had a scope on it by now, an may of already traded it for another rifle...somebody dug this up to argue about what they think is assualt...?...good grief Charlie Brown.
Somebody feel free to.....LOCK.

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