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AgentAdam
December 8, 2008, 08:55 PM
What is a good powder than can load pistols and shotguns?My Unique says its good for 12g along with most pistols they say. I will also be loading .410 along with .38/.357,.380,and 9mm. I was thinking about picking up some Herc2400 that i will need for .357 anyways. I think i have seen .410 data for it.

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scrat
December 8, 2008, 09:15 PM
longshot works good for 9mm and 12 guage.

takes a minute to load up but you can see it can be used for both i have used it with some very good results in 9mm.

Galil5.56
December 8, 2008, 09:25 PM
It's going to be hard (impossible) to cover your request with one propellant. Unique will work in 12 gauge for 1 1/8 oz loads and up pretty well, but the charge weights are large. I used it for really HV 1 1/8 oz loads, and some 3 1/4 Dram eq 1 1/4 oz loads. Unique for the most part would be an excellent choice for the pistol cals mentioned, except for full bore .357 mag.

For .410 you are going to need something a lot slower... H110/WW296, or the 2400 you mention would do the trick, as well as being great for high intensity .357 mag.

scrat
December 8, 2008, 09:37 PM
little gun is another powder. you need to check the hogdon site. i know it works good for .410 and handguns.

Envisaged
December 8, 2008, 09:43 PM
Yep, 'Lil Gun is good for .357 Mag, .44 mag, and some shotgun rounds.

GP100man
December 8, 2008, 09:51 PM
look at alliants dot powders red , green & blue .
not optimum powder for all, but i bet one of em will work in all said calibers.

GP100man

ArchAngelCD
December 9, 2008, 03:39 AM
For loading 12ga along with 38/357 and 9mm handgun rounds HS-6 will do a good job. Some of the above mentioned powder will also do a good job but HS-6 is cleaner and a little more versatile.

I'm suggestion HS-6 because it can be used for loading .38 Special rounds whereas some of the others are a bit stout for that caliber. On the other hand for the .410 Lil'Gun is perfect which I would expect since it was formulated for the .410 Shotgun round.

I would suggest you not try to do everything with only 1 powder. All your calibers will suffer. W231 is a great .38 Special and 9mm powder. Longshot and HS-6 works well in the 9mm and hotter .38 Special +P rounds as well as shotgun rounds. W296/H110 and 2400 are great Magnum powders. Don't sell your ammo short by trying to use 1 powder for all of them.

Steve C
December 9, 2008, 01:03 PM
As others have said there's no ONE powder that will fill your needs for all the calibers you want to load. Your caliber list has widely disparate pressure requirements, case volumes and bullet weights. The .410 shotgun really throws the list for a loop as it requires slow burning powders. In Alliant (formerly Hercules) powders, 2400 is the only powder you will have data for to load the .410.

To cover the entire spectrum of loads you should get 3 powders. A fast powder like Red Dot for target loads in the pistols and 12ga shotgun. A medium burn rate powder like Unique for full power loading in the .38/9mm/.380/12ga and medium loads in the .357 mag. A slow powder like 2400 to load the .410 and full power heavy loads in the .357 mag.

AgentAdam
December 10, 2008, 12:57 AM
I'm just trying to consolidate some of my powder selection to hopefully around 6-8 powders but mainly 3-4 or them that are worth stocking up on and can at least do mouse fart loads for multiple callibers. I already have BullsEye Unique & Herco. I could probably do without the Herco but i haven't experimented much with it yet.Herc2400 is defiantly on the list if not replaced with H110/WW296 after testing. I can't find any .410 data for it. I will also be doing experimenting with PowerPistol,Universal,HS-6,.410LilGun, Red Green or Blue Dot,W291, not to mention .223 and 7.62x39 powders. I probably left some out but the list can get extensive when your reloading for cast and jacketed in
.25auto
.380auto
9mm
.38special
.357mag
.357SIG
.44special
.44magnum
.223/5.56mm
7.62x39
.308/7.62x51
.50AE
and eventually
.327FedMag,.32H&H,.32Long
and
.45acp

It may seem like allot but a third of these will only see a box or two a week at the range and another third will only see a box or two a month if not a year for hunting. Then there are the ones that will be loaded by the bricks and cases like .38/.357, .223 and 9mm.

BacSi67
December 10, 2008, 12:38 PM
I've used IMR 700X and 800X in reloading both shotgun and some pistol calibers. Never a problem if I follow loading specs.
BacSi

bluetopper
December 10, 2008, 01:55 PM
I expect some negative comments from the statement I'm about to make, but I would not replace 2400 powder with H110/W296. If you do change, using magnum primers is recommended because H110/W296 is harder to ignite and from my experience, accuracy will suffer.
And what little velocity and recoil increase you get really isn't needed.

AgentAdam
December 10, 2008, 07:19 PM
Looks like the 2400 should take care of .410 ,.357,and .50ae.

ArchAngelCD
December 11, 2008, 01:11 AM
adam38654,
If you want the best results with your .410 shotshells use Lil'Gun instead of 2400.

atblis
December 11, 2008, 03:36 PM
I'll throw out IMR 7625. Meters awesome and covers a good range of Handgun and shotgun loads. Won't do 410 though.

Bringsteen
December 11, 2008, 04:23 PM
IMR 800-X has remarkable properties and should seriously be considered. I can't think of a compelling reason to use just one powder (or even primarily one powder), but 800-X is a great candidate for this.

It does meter a bit poorly.

atblis
December 11, 2008, 08:02 PM
A bit poorly. Ha. That's easily the worst metering powder I've ever used.

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