How hard is it to find 19-round .308 DPMS Magazines?


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4Freedom
December 8, 2008, 11:42 PM
I can hardly find any at all online... Do these magazines risk being banned? I see some being sold for $80 on gunbroker , but would hate to pay twice as much as they are worth.. SHould I wait to buy these or just get the $80 ones now? How hard do people think these will be to come by in the next few months?

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GunNut
December 8, 2008, 11:54 PM
Seeing how they hold more than 10rds, yes they are possibly going to be banned. Thus the reason why you are not finding them.

Either pay the $80, or better yet get on a waiting list with someone who will sell them for the normal price.

Evil Monkey
December 9, 2008, 12:12 AM
http://www.cproductsllc.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=22_39&products_id=62

Have at them.

jpwilly
December 9, 2008, 12:41 AM
Yes CProducts (http://www.cproductsllc.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=22_39&products_id=62) sells them but they too are backordered. I put an order in on the 16th of Nov and am still waiting. Shouldn't be much longer?!

4Freedom
December 9, 2008, 05:30 AM
Well, I paid the taxed price for a set on gun broker. Bought a set of 5 for $70.00 a piece + $10.00 Shipping. Yes, I know they retail for around $40, but I just cannot find them anywhere. I was told by a few people not to use generic brand .308 magazines with the .308 DPMS rifles, as they are not always compatible. Well, I am not experienced so I don't know how true that is. Anyhow, I wanted some magazines and did not want to wait several months. Wish I could have found them cheaper. They are DPMS brand and newly wrapped.

Evil Monkey
December 9, 2008, 05:58 AM
$70 a piece? You got ripped. But you said you had to have it so whatever.

There's no "generic brand" with DPMS/SR25 magazines. It's DPMS, KAC, and Cproducts. Cproducts ain't no joke. They make good mags. And if they aren't, they replace them.

The DPMS/SR25 pattern mag that these 3 companies sell are most likely made for less than $10 each. They can double price and still make great profit.

Hell, DPMS is selling them from their website for $45 if you wanted them straight from DPMS.

4Freedom
December 9, 2008, 06:03 AM
Damn.. you win some you lose some.. oh well. I am out $200.

Evil Monkey
December 9, 2008, 06:39 AM
Damn.. you win some you lose some.. oh well. I am out $200.

Not to worry. You only bought 5 and I'll bet you'll want more in the future. Now you know where to look.

BTW, if you absolutely HAVE to have DPMS mags, well check this out.

http://www.44mag.com/prodinfo.asp?number=DPMA3082
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=573085

I'm sure there are more sites, I just don't remember them.

Yes, they're out of stock but when they get them, jump on these deals.

red_cedar
December 9, 2008, 09:12 AM
Either pay the $80, or better yet get on a waiting list with someone who will sell them for the normal price.
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That about sums it up.


I found some from a guy for $58 shipped and picked up a couple.

I emailed 44mag.com and asked them their situation. Their reply was "they are coming in weekly and going to backorders". If I order I will get them in 2-4 weeks.

Hi caps mags will be a good trading commodity.

lipadj46
December 9, 2008, 09:47 AM
Put in an order at 44mag.com and wait a few weeks. No need to pay double just have a little patience.

taliv
December 9, 2008, 09:53 AM
actual KAC magazines for the last several years retail over $100 each (because dealer cost is almost that). I couldn't tell you if they're in stock anywhere, but if you're going to spend $80 on a DPMS, why not go ahead and buy something that will retain value even if the ban doesn't materialize and prices fall back to normal?

red_cedar
December 9, 2008, 11:29 AM
before the 20rd mags came about, DPMS had these cheap plastic ones.
I bought a couple 10rd Knights Armament for $90 a piece. Boy did I feel ripped off, but the Knights mags have always been up there.

I still have the 10's but sold the .308 24" DPMS. Wanting to get a AP4.
In the begining of the year I had to decide based on funds do I get 1 AP4 or get 3 others guns. I went with the 3.

ToadPS
December 9, 2008, 04:17 PM
I ordered directly from DPMS about a week ago. At that time customer service said to expect 4-6 week delivery.

I'll probably put in for a few more from Cproducts.

W.E.G.
December 9, 2008, 04:48 PM
Supply will catch up.

I refuse to believe there is some consortium of hoarders out there snapping up every DPMS mag with the expectation of tripling their money on some magical cash-it-all-in day.

The problem is, everybody who owns one, just ordered a half-dozen. That raised the short-term demand by 10,000%.

Until the wave recedes, we wait.

Your lever-action misses you anyway.

ToadPS
December 9, 2008, 07:22 PM
Which raises a good question: how many mags should one have for a particular magazine fed rifle?

I have the two that came with the rifle and I ordered 4 more. I'm thinking 10 is a nice round number.

What is the prevailing wisdom on this? How many mags does one rifle need?

taliv
December 9, 2008, 08:13 PM
i like to have at least 6 mags for a rifle.

however, if we're talking a permanent ban on "hi-cap" then the real question is "how many mags is a lifetime supply?"

a year and a half ago, i bought 10 pmags and 10 D&H mags. I've since been through 3 carbine classes, about a match per month, and countless square range sessions practicing. I only have 8 pmags and 7 D&H mags left of that bunch.

so, i bought (before the obama freakout) 40 D&H mags and I have an order in for 40 Pmags. So I figure if I lose 5 / year or so, then that'll last me 16 years. not exactly a lifetime supply, but enough to breathe easy.

I sure didn't buy them to resell.

W.E.G.
December 9, 2008, 08:13 PM
Depends on what you plan to use it for.

How many magazines can you carry, and how many can you damage beyond repair over the course of your ownership of the rifle.

...and then there is the hoarder's consortium.

wally
December 9, 2008, 09:18 PM
Sportsman's Guide lists them for $35 each or $90 for three. The ones I ordered are expected to ship Jan 15, 2009. The .223 ammo I ordered at the same time shipped last Friday. Its nice to use their 4-pay plan and spread the cost out over four months.

--wally.

MyRoad
December 9, 2008, 10:59 PM
Well, I paid the taxed price for a set on gun broker. Bought a set of 5 for $70.00 a piece + $10.00 Shipping.
You're not alone.

I recently purchased (should be in any day now) an R-25, which comes with one five round magazine. I called DPMS and they said "three to eight months" before more mags are available. They also said there are a ton of them out there. So I've been trying to at least get a couple so I would have some on hand. I've seen them on GunBroker going for as much as $80 each. And then the same sellers put up more... they have them, and they are letting them trickle out their to the highest bidder.

So, I'd say its a bit of hoarding at this point. I back-ordered some at a normal price, and then contacted one of the gunbroker dealers who had several and was selling them off in pairs, and asked him what a "buy now" price would be. He said $55, so I got two, they just showed up today. The rest I'll wait for.

jpwilly
December 10, 2008, 12:58 AM
I paid $184 shipped to my door from CProducts (8 of them!)...ordered them Nov 16th but still haven't recieved them. Should be any time now!

ToadPS
December 10, 2008, 09:44 AM
Well, I figure to own this rifle forever and pass it on down to a family member when I can no longer use it correctly.

I feel certain, given the current make-up of Congress with rabid anti-gun, anti-2nd politicians in leadership positions that we will indeed be the victims of another AWB. We've already seen their angst over 10+ magazine capacity so I think these 19 rd mags will be going away.

If you don't drop/abuse magazines and leave them unloaded except when using them they should last a good long time. I was thinking 5 to use when shooting and 5 on the shelf untouched for future generations.

Maybe though I'll get some Cproducts ones and keep 5 in use, 10 on the shelf. That ought to last a very long time.

Which brings me to another question. I'm pretty new to AR's. What should I have in my parts kit for this gun? What are the common things that break or need replacing? One can imagine that one day parts will become difficult as well.

winston smith
December 20, 2008, 02:45 PM
https://dynamicarmament.storesecured.com/items/AR-15-AR10-MAGAZINES/list.htm

C PRODUCTS DPMS/ POF-USA 308WIN 20 ROUND BLACK MAGAZINE

IN STOCK
LIMITED SUPPLY

$50.00

Just bought 3. Hope this helps.

ToadPS
December 21, 2008, 09:22 PM
I just contacted DPMS Customer Service to check on my order.

Now they say 2-3 months from order to ship which would leave me 1 or 2 months away at this point.

I wouldn't be surprised if it stretched out a bit more.

winston smith
December 22, 2008, 09:45 AM
Too late. Dynamic Arm. has sold out too. I was told by Gander Mountain's gun dept. that the January Inventory Tax means the next shipments of guns and accessories will be available in late January...say about the time of the anointment of the Obamesiaah.

JWarren
December 22, 2008, 11:40 AM
Magazines have been in short supply since the election.

We are STARTING to see some product flow into the markets now, however. No on in the industry expected to see SUCH a run on magazines, and production was not up to speed to deal with it.

Now when you get to a rifle like the LR-308, you ONLY have THREE companies making magazines for it-- unlike the multitude of companies making magazines for the AR-15. The companies are:

DPMS
CProducts
Knight's Armament


Soon, one of two things will happen--

Magazine orders will stabalize, or
Production will get caught up to demand.

Right now, the best course of action is to order from CProducts and wait on the backorder list. They'll get them out in a decent amount of time, and I am not altogether certain that DPMS will since they are up to their eyeballs in making guns for the demand. Knights Armament magazines go for $115 a pop, so they really aren't an option for most people.

I've got my LR-308 magazines on backorder with CProducts.



-- John

Evil Monkey
December 22, 2008, 01:42 PM
Knights Armament magazines go for $115 a pop

115 for a small protion of stamped steel. *** is this world coming to.

winston smith
December 25, 2008, 05:15 AM
12/25/08- Gunbroker: 5 for $300.

MyRoad
December 25, 2008, 10:37 AM
12/25/08- Gunbroker: 5 for $300.
If that was the price that the auction ended at, that is REALLY good news!!!! A couple of weeks ago I saw 5 go for almost $400 (would have come out to just over $400 with shipping).

This a good sign. I've also noticed that more and more (over-priced) auctions are closing without a single person bidding, even for AR-15's. Perhaps the "bubble" has popped -- the subset of gun buyers with both the belief that there could be a ban and have the money to burn, is on the decline. Things might not return to where they were before, but I'd be happy if this was a sign that prices have peaked and are starting to come back down.

Of course, if legislation actually makes it to the table, that's a whole other story.

winston smith
December 26, 2008, 06:54 PM
Well, that's now up to $380.

Another GB auction for DPMS 19 round mags is up to $72 for each.

On the other hand, I did notice lower selling prices for some .308 ARs...

The bubble will be popped by January 20, 2013.
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Take out the "Hussein", and he is just plain old B.O.

JWarren
December 26, 2008, 09:56 PM
I'll just wait for mine from CProducts.


-- John

winston smith
December 31, 2008, 11:36 AM
IN STOCK 12/31/08

http://dynamicarmament.com/items/AR-15-AR10-MAGAZINES/list.htm

jpwilly
December 31, 2008, 07:18 PM
^^ Yikes $50ea! Sad thing is they'll probably get them sold. I'm waiting on my order from Nov still I called C Products and they told me another week and I should have them. :scrutiny: We'll see.

winston smith
December 31, 2008, 08:35 PM
www.thegunsource.com had them for $30.99--- only 231 customers before you!

Quantity:
Our Price: 30.99

Average User Rating
1 User Ratings Stock Status
Backorder Information Put your item on order now to get in line: 231 on order from other customers.

JWarren
December 31, 2008, 09:30 PM
Backorder Information Put your item on order now to get in line: 231 on order from other customers.


What do you want to be each of those 231 in front of you are ordering at least 10 magazines?

That means that around 2,310 magazines have got get into inventory before you are served.

/sigh


-- John

sirdavid
January 9, 2009, 02:33 AM
Be sure to check if these fit your rifle, or if they are of sufficiently high quality, but here is what I found looking around for mags that will fit into a DPMS lower for a .308 AR-10:

MGDPMA3082, Black, 308 Win, 19 Rda: Our Price: 30.99
http://www.dpmsrifle.com/category/310-DPMS_Magazine.aspx

DPMS LR-308 20rd Magazine Stainless Steel CProducts
Click image to view product details.
Item Number: CP30820
Sold out. Accepting backorders. My price: $29.99 each.
http://www.44mag.com/products.asp?dept=1333

I put in an order for a Patriot Arms AR-10. I'm wondering if either of these will work in my gun. I'll call them tomorrow and ask.

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