Opinions of Savage rifles?


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harmonic
December 10, 2008, 10:06 AM
I'm a left handed shooter and don't have a lot of options for a bolt action rifle. But Savage offers plenty of rifles for southpaws that are priced considerably less than the competition.

There is a question about quality, however. With guns maybe more than anything else, you get what you pay for.

Why are they priced so much less?

thanx

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12Bravo20
December 10, 2008, 10:33 AM
I can speak from experience that Savage rifles are well made and are excellent shooters. I had a lefty 111 in .270 and still have a lefty Mark II in .17m2 and while the cosmetic finish isn't as good as more expensive rifles, they are well made. Every Savage rifle that I have shot, whether right or left bolt in both rimfire and centerfire, have been very accurate.

BrandonBowers
December 10, 2008, 10:41 AM
I am also a LH shooter. Absolutely LOVE my Savage 30-06. The bull barrel is a nice plus too. Doesn't have an accutrigger but I've got it set to about a 2 pound trigger.

oldgold
December 10, 2008, 10:45 AM
With guns maybe more than anything else, you get what you pay for

Almost true, but especially with firearms some people buy prestige. Savage fire arms do not at this time have the high resale of some other brands. Fit and finish is some what lacking and so is the glamorous looks.

As far as function, reliability, and accuracy, they are second to none. I've owned a bunch of different rifles and the most accurate by far is the 110 I have now.

The neatest thing about Savage is if you get bored with the caliber you're shooting just get another barrel and change it yourself.

USSR
December 10, 2008, 11:16 AM
Good value for the $$$.

Don

KSCCHTrainer
December 10, 2008, 11:28 AM
I have one of their newer "Law Enforcement" series model 10FP in .308 with a 24" bull barrel and the "accu-trigger" I have it set to 1.5 pounds and the rifle will shoot 1 hole groups @ 100 yards with my handloads and even puts 10 rounds of South African surplus 7.62 X 51 NATO in a 1" group at 100 yards. Under $600 at Sportsman's Warehouse in Wichita, KS and I wouldn't trade it for anything. Inexpensive is not necessarily "cheap".

The fit and finish on this rifle is excellent and the only peeve I have with it is the lack of an external magazine dump. It has a 4 round blind mag built into the synthetic stock, and so, no aftermarket stocks for it either, but the factory synthetic one is nice and it has an extremely soft butt pad on it. Felt recoil is WAAAAY reduced.

Ben86
December 10, 2008, 11:37 AM
I've only owned two of their .22s. The first was a model 64 semi. It's a good rugged gun, accurate, pretty reliable. But the magazines suck. The lips wear down quickly and become ten can lid sharp. So they have to be filed down every now and then.

The Savage MK II was terrible. The bolt action was loose and stiff, the magazines didn't line up right with the chamber (feeding problems) and the gun has 2 extractors. Two extractors?!! Which frequently holds onto the brass instead of flinging it out the side. Lame idea. It was accurate though, yet fails miserably in function.

That's why I have a 10/22 now!

I have heard good things about Savage's larger caliber rifles though haven't shot any of them.

possum
December 10, 2008, 12:19 PM
they are inexpensive one of the few guns that haven't went up in price since the whole president elect craze, really accurate, and easy to find at the local shops.

StrawHat
December 10, 2008, 12:40 PM
The Savage line of rifles are some of the most accurate out of the box rifles going.

And if you like to tinker they are good for that also.

I had a 110 that I set up as a switch barrel rifle with three different barrels. Hard to do with other brands.

Savage, accurate and dependable.

sbarkowski
December 10, 2008, 02:30 PM
Great gun, the one and only complaint I have is with their synthetic stocks with the exception of the higher end law enforcement series. They just have far too much flex. You can literally grab the forend and the butt of the rifle and twist it right out of shape. I'd go for one of the laminate stocked ones. Looks great, ridgid and pillar bedded at the very least. Plus you can't beat the price for what you get. Accutrigger? Wish I had one on every rifle I own.

lefteyedom
December 10, 2008, 02:46 PM
I Love mine.
22-250
257 weatherby
338 win
375 h&h

cinteal
December 10, 2008, 02:54 PM
I had the same experience with the Mk II as Ben 86 - significant feeding problems. This is a rimfire, though.

The bolts on all Savages I have shot have been tight, but I don't know that that is bad. I found no problems with accuracy, and yes, loved the Accutrigger. I can't recommend te Mk II but the larger calibers seem to be well made and function flawlessly

sbarkowski
December 10, 2008, 03:07 PM
I picked up a old well used MKII from a buddy just for some fun shooting. It had the 10rd mag and the 5th and 6th round would not feed, they hit the top of the chamber opening because they stuck to far out and pointed upwards before the bolt reached them. Something to do with the way the rounds stacked in the mag I guess. Im looking for one of the newer replacement mags hopefully it will feed better?

hossdaniels
December 10, 2008, 03:20 PM
Hmm, ugly rifles. They shoot great. I have a savage 10 muzzleloader, its not so ugly, but I had to buy a laminated stock, and have the stainless barrel bead blasted to get rid of that tacky shine. I also have a savage 93r17(17hmr), dang fine shooter, just hate that ugly plastic stock, might be upgrading that too. Both of the rifle's shoot under 3/4" at 100 yds(yes, even the muzzleloader). Also the 17hmr's magazine doesn't quite fit like it should, have to jiggle it sometimes. And the savage 10 ML's bolt is a little hard to close. Just little fit and finish things like that keep the savages from being top tier rifles. The bottom line is alot of rifles that cost alot more cant shoot with them.

eagleseeker
December 10, 2008, 04:17 PM
I have a 22hp savage model 99 take down that has been handed down from my greatgranddaddy it is by far my favorite gun .looks a little rough but it takes a beating an keeps on ticking wouldnt trade it for the world.i also have a 17 with a bull barrel extremely accurate does an excellent job on coyotes.

heron
December 10, 2008, 05:50 PM
I have one, a single-shot bolt .22 in the target version (bull barrel, Williams FP sight set). Not too handsome, but it's extremely accurate. Always shoots the same, cold or hot. I like the Accu-trigger, too. It came from the factory set at its lightest pull (about 2 1/2 lbs, I think). Very nice. About $270+tax.

possum
December 10, 2008, 06:24 PM
oh and i forgot to mention the accu trigger is nice and operator level adjustable, that is a great feature as well.

conhntr
December 10, 2008, 06:26 PM
older 10fp-- pre accu-trigger. i dropped a sharp shooter supply trigger in; and put it in a choate "sniper" stock (i thought it looked kewl at the time). it is heavy but as others have reported will hold under .75moa

weedlayer
December 10, 2008, 06:46 PM
They are definitely shooters right out of the box. I have a 12FV 22-250. I put a B&C stock on it. The only problem I have is chambering follow up rounds, they do not always feed the smoothest. I have heard this complaint from others as well. Regardless, they are still hard to beat right out of the box.

ultralightbackpacker
December 10, 2008, 08:32 PM
I have a savage 10fp. Its the big arse bull snout chambered in 308. I slapped an el cheapo bushnell 3200 10x fixed on it, as a fun long range weapon for target. The accutrigger is very sweet, adjustable you know. As far as accuracy? Hmmmmm, how shall I say this, the rifle is way better than I am at 10x scoped. :)

Take care,

CZ223
December 10, 2008, 09:01 PM
model12 BVSS 223- Pre accu-trigger
Model12 Bvss 223- w/accu-trigger
Model 12 BVSS 22-250 pre accu-trigger
Model 112 BVSS 220 Swift pre accu-trigger
Model 112 BVSS 25-06 pre accu-trigger
Model 12 VLP 204 Ruger w/accu-trigger
Model 12 VLP 204 Ruger w/accu-trigger (yes I have 2 of them):D
Model 9317 BTVSS 17HMR w/accu-trigger
Model 12 F-Class in 6mmBR w/Accu-trigger

And in case you were wondering if I liked them enough to buy more, yes!:evil:

My next one will be the F/TR in 308
the next will probably be another F/Class in 6.5x284
Unless I find something else in the meen time:D

franconialocal
December 10, 2008, 09:06 PM
I had a Savage Arms .243 bolt action that I'm still kicking myself for ever getting rid of. I loved that rifle.:banghead:

wacki
December 10, 2008, 10:34 PM
I have a Savage 10FP in .308.

I love it. I'll take it up against a Remington 700 any day of the weak. The Remington does have a quieter action but I don't care too much about that.

Gunfighter123
December 10, 2008, 11:02 PM
I give them a 4-B rateing --- Best Bang for the Buck Bolt !!!!!!!!


I have 2 Sav. 10FPs -- a .223 and a .308 ---- both are DeathRays -----1/2" at 100yds. and 1 1/2" at 200yds.

kgpcr
December 10, 2008, 11:08 PM
The fit and finish leaves a bit to be desired. Not the smoothest action out there but the accutrigger is top shelf and they are tack drivers. if you want to look cool dont buy one. if you want a tack driver its the rifle for you!

skinewmexico
December 11, 2008, 12:15 AM
Depends on how you define quality. If downrange performance is how you define it, Savage rifles are extremely high quality. I bet the ad guy who came up with "you get what you pay for" is still proud of himself. The nitwit.

qajaq59
December 11, 2008, 07:49 AM
The Savage line of rifles are some of the most accurate out of the box rifles going. If what I'm seeing at the range is normal then this seems to be true. I don't use one, but the people there that do seem to be quite happy with them.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
December 11, 2008, 09:23 AM
Unrefined, but very good.

SpeedAKL
December 11, 2008, 12:41 PM
I have a Savage Mk.II BV in .22LR. It's a great little rifle for the money, surprisingly well-finished and exceptionally accurate. I enjoy it immensely. My roommate here at school has a 64G semi-auto .22 that is also a great gun for the $$$.

USSR
December 12, 2008, 06:40 PM
People also don't like the cheap looking trigger guards on Savages. Many if not most of those are plastic. Plastic doesn't get my vote for better looking either but high grade plastic can look pretty good and Savage uses high grade plastic on their trigger guards.

High Grade Plastic?:rolleyes:

Don

sbarkowski
December 12, 2008, 07:31 PM
I dont mind the plastic on the Tikka's at all, rigid too. I'd consider that high grade.

Envisaged
December 12, 2008, 07:45 PM
Savage rifles are button rifled like most of the upper end barrels. Rem 700's are hammer rifled with a slower tiwst.

Savage in stock form is better than a Rem. Unfortunately there is less aftermarket for the Savage at *this* time.

You also have the option of stocks with aluminum bedding like the HS Precision from the factory of Savage.

Dos
December 12, 2008, 10:38 PM
Don't see why plastic trigger guard would bother anybody with the "Workhorse Rifles". I had a Rem 788 22-250 with a cheesy plastic trigger guard...same with a 340 Savage Hornet...not to mention the safeties were plastic as well on both......wouldn't hesitate to buy em back if i could....plastic or NO :banghead:

Deepskyy
December 12, 2008, 11:10 PM
Got a Savage 111 in 7mm Magnum, I personally think it looks evil in black with the only shiny bits being the bolt. Goes well with all the rest of my evil black weapons. I plan on putting a cheap scope on it and having some fun ASAP. The problem is I live in Charlotte NC, and the nearest outdoor range is in Troy, about 45 minutes away. Heading there FINALLY on Wednesday! I get to play with my new friends!

theotherwaldo
December 12, 2008, 11:30 PM
My 110F in .270 isn't pretty. The laminated stock is an odd shade of green. You can see machining marks on the barrel. It has poor bluing and plastic parts.

I don't care.

This is a high-precision remote hole-drilling machine. It is accurate and consistent. That is what I want in a high-powered rifle.

zammyman
December 12, 2008, 11:38 PM
I'm on my third Savage rifle and love it (10FP). My only complaint is their stocks. On large caliber rifles they tend to bite a lot more than they should due to weak stocks and rounded recoil pads. If you intended to replace the stock, don't mind the recoil, or are getting a small caliber I'd say go for it! They really are accurate.

M1A National Match
December 12, 2008, 11:53 PM
I'm pretty partial to the the Savage 99 as my north woods brush rifle. I've found it to be rugged, reliable, and incredibly accurate. Aging, I've added a Leopold Vari-X II, 4X scope. I would'nt trade it for virtually anything.

As a lad, I hunted through New York State's Adirondack Mountains, and the 99's were plentiful, as they were built just down the road a piece, in Utica, NY.

(25 years ago, there was a small gun shop in Speculator, NY, Charlie McCarthy, who had more used 99's than you could shake a stick at. I spent many an hour wistfully browsing his shop, drooling at the plethora of good, old 99's. I have no idea if the shop still exists. Charlie was old as the hills back then; he'd be older than time if he was still alive now.)

My gran-fa-dair bought me a Savage 99 C in 308 Win as a gift for clearing some land on his Adirondack, hard-scrabble farm. I cherish it to this day. If I ever take up hunting again, I may break down, and buy a used Savage in 358Win., as I'm very partial to the caliber, and I already love the gun.

jhansman
December 13, 2008, 01:41 AM
Not a southpaw, but until recently I owned a Savage 12VLP in .223 and it was solidly accurate once I determined the optimum OAL for my handloads. I only sold it 'cause I needed the cash and hardly ever shot it anymore. Their laminate stock is solid and combined with the bull barrel, it makes for a heavy gun. Still, great rifle.

Im283
December 13, 2008, 10:06 AM
The Savage MK II was terrible. The bolt action was loose and stiff, the magazines didn't line up right with the chamber (feeding problems) and the gun has 2 extractors. Two extractors?!! Which frequently holds onto the brass instead of flinging it out the side. Lame idea

I have a Savage MKllGL. Chambered in .22LR. My bolt action was reallt tight when brand new and has broke in nicely over the 1000 (more or less) rounds I have put through it. I did experience some feed problems when it was new but never any extractor troubles.

It is pretty darn accurate.

USSR
December 13, 2008, 06:32 PM
Hmm, King G., didn't know we were talking about bicycles? There's a big difference between something that is built to be strong and light (as in racing bicycles), and something that is built to save money so that you can undersell your competitors (as in Savage).

We could go on and on about synthetic components. The fact is they are here to stay and no amount of rolling eyes will change that.

No, actually they're not here to stay. When I was building my last Match Rifle, I found a plastic follower in the donor action. It was promptly swapped out for a steel follower.

Don

skinewmexico
December 13, 2008, 07:41 PM
They way people go on about synthetics, you'd think they were driving all steel cars. Maybe they are, from the 50s.

nekwah
December 14, 2008, 12:08 AM
There awsome. Make sure to get the accu trigger

barnetmill
December 14, 2008, 01:13 AM
Opinions of Savage rifles?

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There is a question about quality, however. With guns maybe more than anything else, you get what you pay for.

Why are they priced so much less?

thanx
In this case you are really getting what you paid for. Their rifle is designed to cut costs in certain areas relative to manufacture that is efficient. This is done in such a way that accuracy is inhanced.
To have an accurate rifle you need:
A good barrel
Proper chamber, throat, head spacing
Proper barrel bedding
A stiff and properly aligned action
A good trigger
Savage does these well enough to make a good rifle at a competitive price.

Rimmer
December 14, 2008, 10:51 AM
I understand that years ago Savage was a lesser quality product.

I hesitated buying one 2 years ago until I did some hands-on research. That statement above is no long true. They build a nice rifle today and have for at least the past several years. I bought one in .308 and .204 ruger. Both are extremely accurate right out of the box although I'm one of those nuts that does the shoot/clean/shoot/clean for the first 50 rounds to break-in a barrel.

The accu-trigger is sweet. Every manufacturer would benefit from a similar design.

I don't reload as of yet but aside from the ammo cost the accuracy couldn't possibly improve much against factory ammo. The barrels are that good as is Hornady ammo.

ken22250
December 14, 2008, 04:28 PM
i own quite a few rifles , remington, winchester, savage, marlin, weatherby, ruger, cooper, cz-usa, springfield, a-square, masner, mauser, glenfield, stevens, er shaw (based on the savage action), these are for rimfire and centerfire, from the minsecule .10 Eichelberger long rifle, to the Ponderous .577 Tyrannosaurus, i have quite a few savages, my 110 .30-06 will put 5 shots into a .433" circle (without taking out the bullet diameter) with a 165 gr. Nosler Accubond, my highly reworked .22-250 will put 5 shots on a nickle at 200 yards w/ a 55 gr nosler ballistic tip, i would never hesitate to recomend a savage to anyone, how they are priced so low i dont know, but they are very accurate, my 22-250 for example, i bought used for $400, ordered a savage 112BV stock from D&B supply, sent the action to savage to have it rebarrled, had a 6 oz jewell trigger installed, mounted a leupold FX-III
12x40mm scope with fine duplex reticle, and set to work on a load, the result was a rifle that i have shot prarrie dogs w/ at 700 yards. they are well built and extreemly accurate rifles.
ken

jamesjcarter
December 14, 2008, 07:57 PM
purchased model 10 in heavy barrel .223 several years ago for $399
then spent almost as much for a bushnell 6-24x40 elite 4200 scope

after little tinkering finding right load, son was consistently picking off prairie dogs at 600 yards (not estimated - we measured)

IMHO the trigger and bolt assembly are not as good as more expensive rifles but the barrels are superb.

well worth the money

Horsemany
December 14, 2008, 08:06 PM
You also have the option of stocks with aluminum bedding like the HS Precision from the factory of Savage.

This is taking a page from Remington's book. Remington's been using H-S stocks with the aluminum bedding block for over a decade. This is not a Savage benefit.

dogngun
December 14, 2008, 09:08 PM
Right hander, but Savage is a great rifle - even a used one.
The 110 series are hard to beat.

mark

publiuss
December 14, 2008, 09:43 PM
Good, very accurate rifles. Although, in my opinion, ugly, and I am apparantly one of the very few who don't like the Accutrigger.

Horsemany
December 14, 2008, 09:47 PM
publius

You're not alone on the accutrigger....or the ugly.

USSR
December 14, 2008, 10:02 PM
Good, very accurate rifles. Although, in my opinion, ugly, and I am apparantly one of the very few who don't like the Accutrigger.

You guys are gonna get in trouble - for not heaping praise on all things Savage.;)

Don

Beagle-zebub
December 14, 2008, 11:50 PM
Savage

Unrefined, but very good.

Which is very American, in its way: utilitarian, ascetic, mass-produced quality.

It's a do-it-yourself rifle, too, with a barrel-change being simple enough for an amateur to undertake.

USSR
December 15, 2008, 09:34 AM
Sorta like the way commies felt about Stalin, eh?

I don't care if you don't like the looks of Savage comrade. I just made the comment that I do. Seems I'm the one bucking the party line and fishing for a reservation at a Siberian dude ranch.

Hey King G., don't take it out on me, I'm not the one who called the Savage "ugly". Oh, and by the way, I'm not Russian, and there's not a bigger capitalist around than me. The "USSR" stands for Unique Soviet Souvenirs and Relics, an internet business I own that sells collectable items from the FSU.

Don

BBQLS1
December 15, 2008, 09:37 AM
Carbon fiber is used to make the drive shafts for 2200+ horse power NHRA pro-stock drag cars.

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