What is the CZ P-07 Duty 9mm????


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Gary in Pennsylvania
December 12, 2008, 06:08 AM
I can't find any info online about it let alone a PIC!

Got a like to info or a pic to share?


Thanks!

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Gary in Pennsylvania
December 12, 2008, 06:12 AM
Duh.....


I got it:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=412342

JeffDilla
December 12, 2008, 09:44 AM
That P-07 is a sweet looking gun! When are they expected to hit the market? I just got the CZ catalog in the mail a few weeks ago and didn't see anything about them.

foxmoor
December 12, 2008, 09:49 AM
I believe the P-07 is the new, polymer-framed version of the P-01, in 9mm. It reportedly can be had with either a manual safety or decocker and is under review by ATF for points. I hope we can see it hit the stores in 2009.

Kent

Photo:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/foxmoor/CZP-07Duty9mm_real.jpg

rbernie
December 12, 2008, 09:59 AM
Looks like it may not take the standard compact mags. If not - ugh. I don't need yet ANOTHER series of mags to stock.

Marcus L.
December 12, 2008, 10:00 AM
Looks like they may have beefed up the extractor design with a conventional external pivot. Flimsy extractors has been a weakpoint of the CZ and that should make it more attactive as a service pistol. It also seems they have gone with the now conventional large square locking lug which you see in Glocks, Sigs, H&Ks, and the M&P. That is a big service pistol plus. Although the classic Browning inner-slide circular locking lug helps with accuracy, it is finicky about dust and is easily prone to misalignment in sand tests leading to malfunction, additional wear and tear, and accuracy problems.

I wish they had used a rounded trigger guard though. The Novak rear sight is also annoying.

armoredman
December 12, 2008, 10:35 AM
I am looking forward VERY much to trying one out... Also, it will be switchable, decocker or standard safety, same sidearm.

Mrs. Armoredman
December 12, 2008, 12:07 PM
That is one sweet looking firearm. I just might ned to look into getting one,one of these days. Thanks for shareing the pic. It made my day.

burningsquirrels
December 12, 2008, 04:22 PM
awesome to see it in the flesh! i think the big trigger guard is to accomodate gloves. and it make for more hurt when hitting someone with a sharp corner, yes?

zx12rider
December 12, 2008, 04:35 PM
Looks chunky but I like it. Might be a lot like my USP that gets shot a lot but never carried. Been in CCW mode for a while. I think the RAMI is better suited for that purpose.

armoredman
December 12, 2008, 05:00 PM
I have confirmed the P07 does not take the CZ-75 Compact magazines. This is a totally new model, with some base in the CZ-75, but it is not a gimmicked up reconfigured CZ-75, regardless of this pre-production slide stamp. The new trigger system is said to be outstanding, can't wait to give it a whirl.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/Duty20factory20image1.jpg

Gary in Pennsylvania
December 12, 2008, 05:48 PM
CZ's exemplify what a pistol SHOULD look like.

I equate CZ with sexy.

But that is one FUGLY gun!

hemiram
December 12, 2008, 08:34 PM
Totally does not appeal to me. I don't like the plastic guns in general, but this thing is hideous. I'll take a normal, steel one, thanks.

sniper7369
December 12, 2008, 09:20 PM
Aside from the trigger guard I like it. If it proves to be as reliable as previous CZ designs it should be an excellent pistol.

burningsquirrels
December 12, 2008, 11:30 PM
so... will it take the fullsize 75 magazines? i hope so...

GZOh_Jr
December 13, 2008, 12:40 AM
When I squint, I don't mind the form. But overall wayyyy too busy for my tastes. Too much clutter. There's something to be said for "clean lines". I think they drank too much HK P30 KoolAid.

That "serrated-looking" tac rail is hideous (as is on the SP01 Phantom). Why couldn't they stay with the understated, classic-looking single notch of the P01?

Maybe the production model will be toned down a bit.

armoredman
December 13, 2008, 01:31 AM
burningsquirrels, no, new mags, sorry.

Pilot
December 13, 2008, 06:51 AM
I'll pass.

JDGray
December 13, 2008, 08:42 AM
Must have one stiff DA trigger, enough room for three fingers in the trigger gaurd:D

I believe I'll pass on this one.

JeffDilla
December 13, 2008, 09:36 AM
You know, the more I look at it, the more I question that trigger guard. I think that squared corner of it would look a lot better rounded. I'm sure that would defeat its purpose, but still...

burningsquirrels
December 13, 2008, 03:20 PM
it's gotta be squared for pistol-whipping.

damn about the new mags. hopefully there's still hi-caps available. if they're new mags, i hope they're a smidgen wider so i can get 16+1 of 40 cal as a minimum.

DZL HOG
December 13, 2008, 06:28 PM
Id shoot it. That does suck about no mag compatibility with other CZ models.

Any idea on pricing? Think it will be reasonable like CZs are now?

If its comparable to the HK P30(performance not just looks), and half the price, which do you think Id buy? LOL

CZF
December 13, 2008, 06:48 PM
YOU of all people truly deserve one.

SaMx
December 13, 2008, 09:05 PM
hmm, it looks interesting at least.

I'm going to reserve judgment until we get some reviews of how it shoots. I was thinking about getting a P01 some day, but if this shoots at least as good, and is thinner for carry, I might get the P07 instead. Even if it is ugly:neener:

armoredman
December 14, 2008, 12:58 AM
If I am lucky enough to aquire one, ( Santa, oh Santa?!?!?! :) ), I'll post detailed pics and range reviews, absolutely.
I don't know when they will be available, though, early '09, I think.

armoredman
December 17, 2008, 03:50 PM
Update, the first person to swap the safety for decocker did it under two minutes. Another individual involved in the process who hates poly sidearms stated it felt/handled better than any poly sidearm he had handled to date, and it's now on his short list to aquire. :)

CZF
December 17, 2008, 05:09 PM
As I said on the phone.

CZ-USA is already advertising them.

Newest issue of Shooting Times has a small advertisement for the P-07 Duty and SP-01 Phantom.

I believe the Duty also has the interchanging back-strap like the Phantom does.

SaMx
December 17, 2008, 06:22 PM
I'm getting more and more interested in this pistol

any info on MSRP?

armoredman
December 17, 2008, 07:41 PM
None, dagnabbit. :( I asked about the backstrap. I am REALLY getting intrigued with this little pistol!

kentucky_smith
December 17, 2008, 07:56 PM
Looks polymer Witnessy

armoredman
December 17, 2008, 08:43 PM
Not related. :) This is brand new, not a clone of anything.

Luis Leon
December 17, 2008, 11:13 PM
The original CZ75 P01 looks way better in my humble opinion. I like the cleaner lines of the P01. Also, I heard of weak extractors in CZs (mostly on the internet), but haven't had FTEs in any of my 3 CZs.

best regards,

Luis Leon

CZF
December 18, 2008, 01:10 AM
Mostly a batch of 75B extractor springs a few years ago.

Otherwise, the guns put out right now are perking along nicely.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/RAMI%202/RAMI-RECOIL-2.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/vacation/czbest06m.jpg

jon_in_wv
December 18, 2008, 06:08 PM
Am I the ONLY one who finds that gun uglier than a mud fence?

tekarra
December 18, 2008, 08:22 PM
Nope. Keep it locked in the safe at night so it won't ugly away in the dark.
However being a cZ, it will likely be a fine shooting pistol.

jon_in_wv
December 20, 2008, 07:59 AM
I thought I was losing it. Several guys commented on how great that thing looks. It looks like an amateurish attempt. Plastic isn't like steel that needs a lot of machining, you can make it any shape you want. Why did they make it so blocky and unfinished looking. I like CZz a lot but I can't get excited about this one.

jon_in_wv
December 20, 2008, 08:19 AM
It seems like a step backwards from the P-01 Phantom. Looks very finished, nicely contoured, less bulky. What is the advantage to the P-07?

Pilot
December 20, 2008, 10:07 AM
What is the advantage to the P-07?

Less expensive to make and lighter frame. Neither of which are important to me. I'll stick with my PCR and 75B.

jon_in_wv
December 20, 2008, 11:26 AM
Why would it be either of those over the Phantom? Its also polymer.

Kenpo
December 20, 2008, 02:49 PM
The original CZ75 P01 looks way better in my humble opinion. I like the cleaner lines of the P01

Agreed, but then again, I don't think there is a pistol made that looks as good as the P01.

No failures to extract out of my two, ever.

The P-07 does look cool in its own right. I am curious - hope to get my hands on one.

SaMx
December 20, 2008, 06:19 PM
another advantage is that the SP-01 phantom is a full size gun, the the P-07 is a semi-compact, like the P-01. I also like the looks of the P-01 better, but if the P-07 is lighter and slimmer I might choose it over the P-01

armoredman
December 20, 2008, 07:18 PM
The P07 doesn't have an interchangeable backstrap yet. Nothing more yet, will be a bit yet before it's widely available....darn it.

skers69
December 20, 2008, 08:56 PM
I will be curious to hear range reports. For now I am happy with my PCR and Kadet kit.

Gary in Pennsylvania
December 22, 2008, 06:06 AM
http://www.pishtov.com/CZ/PicCZ_g2000.jpg

armoredman
December 22, 2008, 06:16 AM
Differant company.

Aka Zero
December 22, 2008, 11:01 AM
YEah, another company is called CZ, but it's not "Ceska Zbrojovka"

Glad my cz doesn't look like that 2000.....
Maybe if it shot lasers.....

Cool concept for slide serrations.... And that's all I like

CZF
December 22, 2008, 11:03 AM
Some people say interchanging backstrap like the Phantom, some don't.

We will have to see what the final version is that is imported.

Backstrap doesn't make much different to me. The gun is a
CZ and will fit me quite well.

While the Duty is new and exciting, and I'm glad to see CZUB jump into the polymer market with something decent.

I'm still however, a big RAMI fan and carry proponent of the
Chunky Munky..

And therefore.. will be keen on obtaining a RAMI P before the P-07 Duty.


Someone else out there ( and he knows who he is) will be all
over one of the first Dutys to hit our shores.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/cbest08.jpg

CZF
February 17, 2009, 10:43 PM
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/CZ%20SP-01%20PHANTOM/P-07%20DUTY/main104.png

Up on the CZ-USA and CZUB websites now.
http://www.cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=104
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http://www.czub.cz/index.php?p=32&idp=1&ids=2&idz=250&lang=en



This gun will be $164 cheaper than the already wildly popular P01/P-06 pistols!

Don't forget the Phantom if you need a larger CZ in 2009.
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/CZ%20PICS/czann09.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/vacation/czbest06m.jpg

NG VI
February 17, 2009, 10:57 PM
I'm mostly curious about the new trigger setup. I'm also very displeased to know that it does not use normal compact mags. I don't think it should be a full-length grip model, or that it should use new mags, unless we get reversable mag releases so I can get a CZ with a right-side release.

distra
February 17, 2009, 11:31 PM
I thought I was done purchasing guns this year! :mad: That one looks really interesting. I'd like to try it out! Not a bad MSRP either.

CZF
February 17, 2009, 11:32 PM
One place has them listed for $434 but out of stock.
That sounds like a killer price..a Glock killer price!!

matai
February 19, 2009, 05:53 PM
Where'd you see that?

CZF
February 19, 2009, 06:56 PM
http://www.tgscom.com/item/158054_CZ_Hand_Guns_Pistols__P-07_DUTY_9MM_38_BLK.aspx

This would translate to the usual practice of CZs selling for about $100 less than retail. But that was years ago, and this
gun buying craze.

armoredman
February 19, 2009, 07:42 PM
Mags are 16 rounds, comes with both iron sights and adjustables, and with the twin safeties.
Out soon....

MJZZZ
February 19, 2009, 08:01 PM
I'll pass on this model, but I am looking for a PCR as my next excuse for buying a new gun. I went looking today and found none, local Kansas dealer said he can't even get a whiff of a PCR. I did get to hold a Glock 17 and Glock 19. When I got home I immediately apologized to all my CZ's for thinking such thoughts. Mike

armoredman
February 19, 2009, 08:11 PM
Good, now read the CZ manual twelve times in penance. :)
PCR rocks, I have one and the wife does too.

burningsquirrels
February 19, 2009, 08:25 PM
i am pretty 95% certain it doesn't use standard 75 series magazines. can you guys confirm?

ming
February 5, 2010, 07:17 PM
....

armoredman
February 5, 2010, 08:09 PM
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/fits.jpg

rhoggman
May 21, 2010, 05:30 PM
I purchased one of these in like new condition.....

Wow... what an awesome trigger. Not a lot of aftermarket parts though. I comes with plastic "glock like sights".

Anyways this thing is super accurate, feels great in the hand. Did I mention the trigger is like a dream come true in SA? The double action pull stacks a little, but feels Sig-like. The SA pull is oh my God awesome on the one I have.

From 12 yards I can hit bricks with a 1911. The only other semi autos I can do that with (that I currently own) are the Mark II 22/45, and P07 duty???? Just to give you an idea I cannot do that with my P220 in SA, and the reason is because he P07 Duty has a better SA trigger pull.

I do not like the way the frame texture feels on my love handles when I put it in a IWB holster, so I added a Hogue slip on meant for G19. Don't know whether it could stand the G19 test of time and abuse, but as far as use goes.... I like it much better. Ouch, did I just say that?

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