soft "grease"
moooose102
December 12, 2008, 08:42 PM
i was just now goofing around. i read somewhere about mixing parafin with petroleum oil to create a slipperier lubricant. i may not have remembered correctly. anyway, i mixed Mobil 1 0w20, Castrol GTX 5w30, STP, and parafin wax together, heated it all up and kept stirring until it was completely blended. i kept stiring it as it cooled (in a pan of water) until it was totally cool. i tried to use equal parts, but i think i got a little more parafin than the rest. anyway, what i ended up with was a very soft, very slippery "grease" if you will. i really am not sure where i will try it. but experimenting is cool. so if i end up throwing it away, it was still fun. any suggestions for the use of such "glop"? next time, i think i will mix in some "ep" gear lube!
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vsteel
December 19, 2008, 10:22 AM
You do have an interesting mix there. Not sure of a use for it, but you could try and come up with some kind of wear test and how it does against other types of lubricants.
If you were trying to make a better gun lube I would like to make a couple of suggestions. I would suggest instead of using regular motor oil (or synthetics) I would use an off road racing oil. Because of the catalytic converters, they have greatly lowered the ZDP packages, which are used for metal to metal contact, in off road racing oils they don't have to meet the EPA requirements and have much higher rates of these packages. (if you would like to learn more about the packages, just go to your favorite engine building site and look up flat tappet cam wear, you will find tons of articles.)
I would also suggest maybe looking at adding in some assembly lube, its designed for metal to metal contact and to lubricate before the motor oil gets to the wear parts. Its thicker and has a lot of good properties for protecting wear on metal.
Lastly you could also look at heavy duty grease. If you get a NLGI 0 rated grease, you will find they are relatively thin compared to what most people think of grease. (wheel bearing or chassis grease.) Though if you are trying to mix it a little thicker, you can use the NLGI 2 rated grease. They are also designed to stay in place and protect metal to metal contact.
Here are some of the greases I use:
https://jdparts.deere.com/partsmkt/document/english/pmac/8180_fb_GreaseSpecialMultiPurpose.htm
I hope I have helped and happy mixing. :)
moosehunt
December 19, 2008, 10:50 PM
You may be enjoying yourself, and that's great, but it is highly unlikely, very highly unlikely, that you are going to come up with a lubricant that is superior (or even close to) the upper end quality gun lubes that have been scientifically developed by lubrication/friction engineers who make a living studying that stuff. Have fun!!!
moooose102
December 21, 2008, 08:55 AM
moosehunt, i know i am no chemical engineer, i am not trying to be. but i do like to experiment from time to time, just to see what i can come up with. years ago we used to use a motorcycle gearbox lubricant, that in cold tempertures, would "gel". i attended an oil seminar from that company at one point, and asked about it. the rep told us that it was indeed parafin., and that it helped lubricate under the shearing action of transmission gears. i have no idea how this would translate into firearm use, as there are no gears in firearms (at least that i am aware of)> but it is still cool to play.
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