Titegroup for Magnum Pistols


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neal7250
December 15, 2008, 11:49 AM
Most of my Magnum bullets are loaded with H-110, and I have used some Little Gun. While looking at various data from many publications, I see that there is published data, for loading Titegroup, in magnums. The data also shows that you use nearly half of the weight of powder, to achieve nearly the same valocity, and pressure. I use Titegrouup for nearly all of my pistol loading, from 9X18 Makorov to 44 Special, and haver never given it a thought that you could use in Magnums.

Has anyone used Titegroup in varios magnums, and if so, how did it work out?

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rcmodel
December 15, 2008, 11:52 AM
It works out well for mid-power loads.

No way can you get all the performance a Magnum is capable of with fast burning powder however.

The other thing is, pressure can spike very fast & hard when using fast powders for "near full-power" perfomance loads.

Kind of like hitting a bowling ball with your fist, or shoving it with the palm of your hand.
Hit it hard enough, and you will break your hand.

rcmodel

ants
December 15, 2008, 11:59 AM
Nice illustrations in the above post. Good advice, as always.

In general, you use a lower quantity of fast powder to do the same work as a larger load of slow powder. They both achieve high pressure, but on two different curves.

My experience in 44mag from the late 70's to the present (and lesser experience with 357mag) revealed that faster powders achieving magnum velocities beat up the brass harder. Fast powders (and Titegroup is one of the best) are better in my book for lower velocity plinking loads in magnum cartridges. Mid-speed magnum powders make good solid magnum loads that shoot well and extend brass life.

However, I use large charges of fast powders in special circumstances, like getting a lot of gas for a compensator on a 38Super race gun with a 4.5" barrel. But that's not what you asked.

So my experience is to use Titegroup for plinking loads in magnum cartridges, and a powder like 2400 or AA#9 or VV N110 or your H-110 for the true magnum loads.

rfwobbly
December 15, 2008, 12:42 PM
RC has it right. That's good advice. TG is a little too fast for the heavy bullets typically used in most common magnum handguns.

Go ahead and buy the special magnum powders your RLM recommends. Since you'll get well over 1000 shots from a 1 lb can, that works out to be cheaper than 3 cents per shot. Plus, you can't put a price on the added safety.

neal7250
December 15, 2008, 01:45 PM
Great responses and advice. Thanks a lot:)

Envisaged
December 15, 2008, 02:02 PM
I only use it for lighter rounds in the .357 magnum. (125gr Golden Sabers). Everything there on up is getting 'Lil Gun.

hotwheelz
December 15, 2008, 08:46 PM
rcmodel It works out well for mid-power loads.

No way can you get all the performance a Magnum is capable of with fast burning powder however.

The other thing is, pressure can spike very fast & hard when using fast powders for "near full-power" perfomance loads.
Kind of like hitting a bowling ball with your fist, or shoving it with the palm of your hand.
Hit it hard enough, and you will break your hand.

rcmodel
rcmodel has it right
Titegroup spikes very fast I tried to find the info I had recieved about it but didnt find it. Titegroup was spiking alot harder and faster then most others it was off the charts very quickly

evan price
December 16, 2008, 01:12 AM
I load Titegroup for target Magnum pistol use. For serious full-power Magnum work I use AA #9.

.357 Magnum I load a 158-gr LSWC with 6 grains Titegroup and it will lead to some leading, not much. A 5.2 grain load is better, no leading.

.44 Magnum I load a 240-gr LSWC with 9.5 grains of Titegroup and it is almost no leading. A nice solid load and it is not punishing or too hot. I can literally shoot them all day and not beat up my hand or the gun (7.5" Ruger SRH)

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