Remington "Medium Velocity" .357


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willmartin
December 15, 2008, 10:31 PM
I read on the internet that a good .357 mag load is the remington medium velocity, 125gr SJHP round (R357M11). I cannot find these anywhere. Are they still in existence?

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mavracer
December 15, 2008, 10:35 PM
remington dropped that loading and replaced it with their golden saber.
it is an exellent loading and can be bought for a reasonable price if you shop around.

willmartin
December 15, 2008, 10:43 PM
Thanks Mavracer, I was wondering if that was the case. Would you recommend that or the Cor-Bon 110 gr JHP? I took out the 357 with some speer gold dot 125 gr and couldnt hit for you know what with my 2" snub.

outerlimit
December 15, 2008, 10:45 PM
It was also loaded to the exact same specs as the Golden Saber 125gr. round is now @ 400fpe.

I bought some from a gun shop a long time ago and fired them off at the range. From what I recall they were semi-jacketed hollowpoints, like the full power 125gr. .357 load. But it was many years ago..

jackslayer
December 15, 2008, 11:24 PM
Why not just use the .38 and save the cash? This is not a sarcastic comment I'm new to the .357 and can't see what the difference would be besides price? Doesn' .38 special basically equate to a tamer version of the .357 mag

Beagle-zebub
December 15, 2008, 11:42 PM
A .38 would top out at around 300 ft-lbs., no?

outerlimit
December 16, 2008, 01:25 AM
Yes, a typical .38 +p is a bit tamer than the Medium Velocity Remington .357 125gr. jhp load was.

willmartin
December 16, 2008, 09:01 AM
It still packs quite enough punch, no?

psyopspec
December 16, 2008, 09:26 AM
When the race is on, I want to be firing on all cylinders. I want synthetic oil, premium fuel, and my turbo spinning. Without all that, a race car still packs quite a punch, but if it's no trouble to gain an advantage, why not take it?

SaxonPig
December 16, 2008, 09:32 AM
Medium velocity 357s?

I call those 38 Specials.

What's the point to having a 357 revolver if you load it with under-powered ammo?

Just buy a 38.

The Lone Haranguer
December 16, 2008, 09:47 AM
What's the point to having a 357 revolver if you load it with under-powered ammo?

I've fired that load. I have only the subjective feel to go on, but it seems, in terms of power, to be between .38 Spl. +P and a full-powered .357. It is a viable load in a small frame .357, with less blast and recoil.

mavracer
December 16, 2008, 10:07 AM
Would you recommend that or the Cor-Bon 110 gr JHP?
would the fact it's the load I carry in my M&P 340 give you a hint;)
What's the point to having a 357 revolver if you load it with under-powered ammo?
because in my M&P 340 it is below the point where I have to reajust my grip between shots.IE I can control it.
145 silvertips I have to reajust between rounds.

Shakey357
December 16, 2008, 10:15 AM
Slightly off topic (and, I believe, my first post here since joining). I noticed someone mentioned 145 gr. Slivertips. For me, these are the best "heavy" 357 loads. However, they have become impossible to find. Midway is out, with no back order and my local Sportsman's Warehouse hasn't had any for over six months. Has anyone else noticed this? I believe that many of the high quality loadings are getting harder to find. I'm using the 158 gr. Gold Dots until the Sillvertips are back. Anyone else notice this?

FYI - for carry I always use 38+ p's. I can always hit what I point at.

mavracer
December 16, 2008, 10:24 AM
Anyone else notice this?
A lot of ammo is hard to find right now and every ammo vender is behind on shipping.
I've been using 140XTPs in reloads to practice for my 145 STs and I think when my STs run out I'll switch to hornady for my carry ammo in my SP101

Orange_Magnum
December 16, 2008, 05:16 PM
CorBon makes a 110 gr JHP in .38 Spl +p. 382 ft/lbs from a 4" barrel. Its selling point is the accuracy, its draw back is the price.

willmartin
December 16, 2008, 05:38 PM
I have it loaded with Fed Hydrashok 129gr .38 special +P

krs
December 16, 2008, 06:32 PM
I use Magtech 158 gr JHP or JSP (soft flat lead). The box lists it at 535 ft lbs/4" barrel but neither of my guns has that much barrel. I have a model 66 2 1/2", and a model 27 3 1/2".

The box shows energy levels for their .38 sp to be maxed out at 245 ft. lbs and their +P max is 276 ft lbs. There are other less powerful loads shown depending on bullet type and weight.

Point is that I have the heavier revolvers so that I can shoot the heavier ammo and the difference is, and should be IMO, substantial.

the foot
December 16, 2008, 08:18 PM
willmartin-

Your choice of Federal Hydrashok is what I buy when I use store-bought loads.

However, I also have worked up excellent reloads with the Remington 125 gr SJHP. The Remington bullet expands, stays in one piece, thus meets any requirement I would have for the bullet in a self defense load.

I understand the legal "drawbacks" of defending yourself with reloads, but my favorite self defense load in .357 magnum is a reload using a 125 gr Remington SJHP bullet.

willmartin
December 17, 2008, 05:36 PM
Thank you all for your informative responses. Accuracy is more important to me than packing power. Though packing power is nice, I'd like to hit what I shoot. :D

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