Walmart Scope


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Ohio Gun Guy
December 16, 2008, 10:10 PM
While looking at walmart the other day, I noticed a decent looking scope in the case. I was surprised by the price $70.00 +/-. I know this is not a leupold scope and in will not compair to a 300-400 dollar scope. Does any one have any experience with "Centerpoint" scopes? I assume that this is made in China, and may be available in different names. Are these worth the 70.00?:scrutiny:

The CenterPoint 4-16x40mm scope features an adjustable objective from 5 yds to infinity, and has a red/green dual illuminated Mil-Dot reticle for the ever-changing light conditions from dusk to dawn. Zero in on your target with the adjustable windage and elevation dials that have zero locking/resetting capabilities. This scope is part of the CenterPoint Adventure Class of hunting optics which offers highly resolved images in all conditions and delivers superior performance at affordable prices.



Adjustable brightness for red/green illumination; adjustable objection, parallax focus
Parallax setting (yds): 5 to infinity
Wind/elevation Adjustment dials have zero-locking/resetting
Lens coating: multi-layer centerpoint advantage solution
Nitrogen filled
100% Waterproof, fog proof and shock proof
Flip-open covers included
Weaver-style rings included
Magnification: 4x-16x
Reticle: Mil-Dot
Illumination Reticle: Red and green adjustable brightness
Objective: 40mm
Tube diameter: 1"
Click Value: 1/4
Field of View: 30.0 ft - 8 yds
Eye Relief (in): 3.9
Exit Pupil (mm): 10.0- 2.6
Weight (ozs): 18.8
Length (in): 14.5
Material: Aircraft-grade aluminum alloy; one-piece construction
Color: Matte black, non-reflective finish
Requires CR2032 (3V) batteries (included)
Limited lifetime warranty

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Ohio Gun Guy
December 17, 2008, 12:02 AM
Hello..... (Hears own echo)

jpwilly
December 17, 2008, 12:06 AM
I have one on my 30-06 Mossberg ATR and my experience with it has been great (for a cheap scope). It's somewhat big and heavy but has all the bells and whistles one could ever want and they all seem to work so far. Get one!

The scope snobs will jump in and tell you what you already know...it's made in china and far subpar to the scope they paid $1K for...their right but you could jump in and tell them about the law of deminishing returns (and you'd be right too)! Flame suit on!

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p38/jpwilly/Picture012-1-1-1.jpg

http://www.centerpointoptics.com/img/scopes/CPA416AORG.jpg

Ohio Gun Guy
December 17, 2008, 12:24 AM
That just may go on the "new" Swedish mauser......

I forgot about that one! Nice rifle

jpwilly
December 17, 2008, 12:33 AM
The Centerpoint "Tactical" will look out of place on the M96 get a Weaver "Classic" high gloss

http://www.nightvisionplanet.com/v/vspfiles/photos/Weaver-849404-2.jpg

Ohio Gun Guy
December 17, 2008, 12:43 AM
How much does that cost? (Agree with the looks issue)

Ridgerunner665
December 17, 2008, 12:46 AM
I have that CenterPoint scope...

It does not even begin to compare to a $600 Leupold (6-18x40mm Mark II Tactical...I have one of those too)

The CenterPoint does have moderately decent glass in it...but its a JOKE to think it would serve as a "tactical" scope...the clicks are spongy, it never returns to "zero"...meaning if you adjust the knobs, then return it to "zero", its always a few clicks off.

The CenterPoint is what it is...a cheap scope that looks cool.

That said...if you don't plan on using the turrets, it should work OK.

jpwilly
December 17, 2008, 12:47 AM
$200ish...Google up Weaver Classic High Gloss and see what pops up. This scope is good enough quality for that rifle as well! If that's too much $$$ go give blood a few times.

Try here too (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.nightvisionplanet.com/v/vspfiles/photos/Weaver-849401-1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.nightvisionplanet.com/Rifle_Scopes_Weaver_Classic_V_Series_s/307.htm&usg=__Tp5QadW7V7PPFFzQJSWtys0QAow=&h=150&w=200&sz=10&hl=en&start=9&tbnid=RHZL0WzepKXG3M:&tbnh=78&tbnw=104&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dweaver%2Bclassic%2Bhigh%2Bgloss%26hl%3Den)

Regarding the clicks returning to zero on the Centerpoint...mine does track just fine. I shot the "box" just to check. Clicks are spongy though. It's not fair to compare against a Leupold for crying out loud! This ain't no high end scope but still I think you get a lot for the $.

mongo4567
December 17, 2008, 12:55 AM
It depends on what you want to use the scope for. I need very good glass for hunting in low light conditions. Light TRANSMISSION is a big weakness on cheaper optics.

jpwilly
December 17, 2008, 01:14 AM
Scopes don’t gather light. Scopes transmit available light through the lenses out the exit pupil to your eye. The best light transmission is a theoretical 98%. Anything above 95% is great and most scopes are around 90%. It all depends on the quality of the glass and the coatings used. Coatings minimize glare and light reflection. Coatings are also used to enhance contrast. Using the lowest power setting of say a 3-9 power scope would provide plenty of light in most any scope for many hunting applications. Really good glass isn't so important at low power but at high power they really do "shine".


Good glass isn't cheap to build and therefore can't be had in a cheap scope. For example if you look through a Nikon scope you'll have 92% or better light transmission and great contrast. For only $200 to $300 the Nikon Buckmasters look nearly as good as many $1000 scopes.

lipadj46
December 17, 2008, 09:19 AM
Well I like good glass and good deals. Scopes like that are fine for low recoiling rifles under good conditions like at the range in the afternoon. The problem with cheap stuff is that it tends to fall apart one day and you have to go buy a new one. Also the cheap turrets are usually are mainly for show, a click does not really represent anything repeatable. You can twist them and they will move your point of impact but it won't be precise or repeatable. They look cool if that is important.

So buy it if you just need a cheap scope for a 22 caliber. I would not expect it to last on a .308 though it could but it also could break in 2, either one can be expected. Here are some good bang for buck scopes:

Target:
Super Sniper 10x: $300
Bushnell 3200 10x: $170ish

Hunting:
Bushnell Elite 4200 3-9x40: $280
Nikon Team Primos (Monarch with BDC reticle) 3-9x40: $200
Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40: $450

Those are some I have experience with and have lifetime warranties. For deals look on SWFA's Sample List.

onebigelf
December 17, 2008, 09:39 AM
Get a Nikon. Even Gander Mountain has a Nikon scope in that price range and they are far better scopes.
Really. You'll look through it compared to the others in the price range and think it's a more expensive scope on the wrong rack.

John

jpwilly
December 17, 2008, 10:04 AM
Even the Nikon ProStaff sold at WalMart for $150 is a great scope for the $$$ I like the BDC model.

mongo4567
December 17, 2008, 01:57 PM
For high quality scopes with price in mind, I prefer the Leupold VX1 or Nikon Monarch. The lifetime warranty for the Leupold is hard to beat.

helz_mcfugly
December 17, 2008, 09:01 PM
i had one of those on my ruger 10/22 krinker plinker and it worked just fine up to 100 yards. They work just fine for Plinkner type guns. youll never see one on a LEO's rifle or a serious hunter or comp shooters gun. just a good cheap scope.

jpwilly
December 18, 2008, 12:27 AM
For me the Leupold VX1 is overpriced. The only great thing about that scope is the warranty. Otherwise there are much better scopes for $200. I'm not saying Leupolds are junk but you certaily do pay for that warranty up front with their products. Think Elite 3200, Nikon Buckmaster, etc for great bang for buck IMO YMMV.

lipadj46
December 18, 2008, 06:37 PM
For high quality scopes with price in mind, I prefer the Leupold VX1 or Nikon Monarch. The lifetime warranty for the Leupold is hard to beat

You just did, the VX-I is no where near a Monarch. I would take a Monarch over a VX-III even. And yes the Monarchs have a lifetime warranty as do the Bushnell Elites.

coconl
December 19, 2008, 09:20 AM
All you guys missed the best scope out there. I have bad eyes and a short neck I had to get a scope longer distance eye relief. The 3x12 x50mm has more clarity than most of the big name scope.With a 3 1/2" distance for the eye relief. I looked through most of the most popular scopes and the optics were terrible.The scope was about $70 and I wouldn't hesitate to buy another BSA.

Hostile Amish
December 20, 2008, 12:52 AM
There are many BSA scopes that cost less than $60 that are better than that CenterPoint.

Ohio Gun Guy
December 20, 2008, 08:36 AM
I may pick out a BSA. I dont have the budget now for anything else. I'm in construction and I'm not looking forard to the first quarter next year.

lipadj46
December 20, 2008, 11:58 AM
You have to look at these cheap scopes side by side. Some look awfully similar and that is because they get spit out of the same factories in China. They can be useable depending on caliber and if you are lucky and get a good one.

jpwilly
December 20, 2008, 11:22 PM
If you're going to go that cheap you can get a Tasco World Class at Cabelas on sale for $55. The optics are bright and clear and they do hold zero just fine.

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