[Soap]

Everyone I know who has bought an NRM Colt has had very good luck with it. I only know of one where the extractor broke within the first 100 rounds. Does anyone know of a case where there was a problem?

[RON in PA]

No.

[1911Tuner]

Colt has fixed the problem with those "Break'em -While-You-Wait"
extractors by returning to steel barstock instead of the MIM parts
that they were using for a while. The only problem is that you may
get one with an MIM extractor. Take it out of the slide and look at
the butt-end on the bottom. If you see a rectangle-shaped
indentation, it's MIM...If you don't, it's steel. If you have one with
an MIM extractor, Colt may replace it. If they won't, get a Wilson
Bulletproof and have it tweaked by somebody who understands
the extractor in a 1911.

Nice pistols, by the way. I have one that has been flawless for
10,000 rounds...after I tossed the MIM extractor.

Tuner

[boing]

There was a report on 1911forum of NRM gun that had early failures to fire. The timing of the Series 80 parts was suspected. The guy was going to turn the gun over to a custom smith, anyway, so I don't know what the final analysis was.

I check out the Colt forum over there daily, and I can't recall any serious functional problems being reported with the NRM Colts.

I want one. :)

[Sean Smith]

Only problem I had with mine was that one of the white dots popped out of the sights. A little white paint fixed it good as new.

[Wildalaska]

Absolutely the best quality of any 1911 styles out there at a competitive price.

WilddancinhorseAlaska

[Pilot]

I've only seen the NRM Series 80 Colts in stainless steel. Do they come in blue and if so, how is the blue finish? Thanks.

[bigjim]

Yes there have been issues.

Many of these pistols have had a Great deal of Forward and backward play in the barrel bushing. According to the Factory rep that posts on the 1911 forum the slide cut out for the foot on the barrel bushing is out of spec.

There have been problems with the finish. problems with the gun coming caked (Colt Cake/ blueing salts) and being a real messy pain in the A$$ to clean.

I have purchased two. The first had all of these issues and I will be sending it back for a fix on the bushing. ( new slide?) The second was purchased with gunsmith fit bushing. Wonder why?

The nice part is Colt admits the problems and is fixing them unlike Kimber.

Jim

[Nightcrawler]

Mine came packed full of Colt Crud, but other than that I've had no trouble with it. Haven't had it long enough to shoot it much, though.

[WonderNine]

What is special about the NRM over the regular series 80/70's :confused:

I don't even understand what these are. I've never heard of them before and now all of a sudden the past couple days I've heard them mentioned in half a dozen threads.

[Nightcrawler]

Well, they got rid of the hideous "COLT M1991A1(TM)" rollstamp, for one. For another, they revamped their production and improved their quality control from the slump in the 90s.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=481353

[WonderNine]

Ohhhh, you guys are talking about the "new roll mark (rollmark)" models, duh. I didn't know shooters had already developed a new abbreviation for them. :D

[Sean Smith]

NRM = New Roll Mark. Colt made a number of changes and upgrades to the 01991-series 1911s about a year or so ago. These include:

1. Replace "COLT M1991A1TM" markings with classic-looking ones with the pony.
2. Parkerized/matte blue finish replaced with brush-polished bluing. Stainless models have brushed finish instead of sandblasted.
3. Rosewood grips replaced rubber grips on blued models.
4. Plastic trigger replaced with aluminum.
5. Substantial overal quality and reliability improvements.

Old rollmarks (gun in pic has aftermarket sights & trigger):

http://www.1911forum.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=500154

New rollmarks:

http://www.1911forum.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=500684

[Nightcrawler]

Hey Sean? 1911Forum non-members can't view those threads. Can you post the pics?

[John Forsyth]

My runs great. It is a stainless NRM 1991. It bites, but as soon as I bob the hammer, that should not be a problem.

http://www.1911forum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58663

[tex_n_cal]

My stainless NRM is a champ...I want another one:D

[dsk]

The only real problems I've been coming across are plunger tubes coming loose. They've come loose on every single new Colt I've bought. I invested in a staking tool and support pin from Brownells and have been able to fix them myself. Other owners may want to check the tube on any Colt they intend to buy.

Online review of the new Series 70 and 80 pistols:

http://usgi1911.tripod.com/series70/

http://usgi1911.tripod.com/series80/

[Soap]

Thanks for the info everyone. I think Santa is going to bring me one. I'll probably just replace the extractor and have the plunger tube staked down. In fact, I'll probably just send it to C&S for a reliablilty job.

[Black Majik]

So far so good! (Jus' picked up past friday, 6 days ago: 550 rounds thru it)

How many jams and malfunctions you ask? Zero! :D

http://members.cox.net/qtranm3/rich/1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/qtranm3/rich/2.jpg

Every first gun purchase needs a membership to the local range :evil:
http://members.cox.net/qtranm3/rich/3.jpg

So far the experiences have been great. Trigger stuck at 40 rds, but that was a gunsmith error (Trigger Job and McCormick Trigger added). Fixed it and its been reliable as hell ever since! *Knock on wood*

First gun purchases are always memorable. I'm confident this gun will make it extra memorable. :neener:

[Pilot]

Black Majic,

Is that a NRM Colt or a Series 70 re-issue? Very nice indeed.

[bigjim]

Pilot,

Look at the pictures. It says Series 80 on the side of the gun. That pretty much means its not a series 70

[Pilot]

Sorry Bigjim. The resolution on my little lap top does not allow me to see that level of detail. I can't tell if it says Series 80, Series 70 or Charles Daly for that matter, but thanks for clearing that up.

In addition the finish looks more like a polished blue than the matte/parkerized finish described for the NRM Series 80.

[boing]

The NRM guns are blued (or stainless).

[Nightcrawler]

Mine's kind of a matte blue. Shiny on the slabsides, but not so much on the top, to keep glare from interfering with the sight picture. It's a very even, very good looking finish, if I do say so myself (and I do).

[Black Majik]

Hey Pilot.

Thanks. As Bigjim mentioned, it is a NRM Colt. The finish is more of a matt blue finish on the slide.

The work on these guns are nice and tight, no frame/slide rattle at all. Cant help but recommend it to everyone (or not recommend it otherwise everyone would have one! :D :o :cool: )


Happy shooting!

[Pilot]

I think I NEED one of the NRM Colts. Thanks for the update guys.

[Black Majik]

Pilot,

Go for one, you'll be surprised on your money well spent! :)






Oh yeah, early congrats! ;)

[Shmackey]

Great guns. My NRM Commander is on its way to a certain fellow named Ted Yost for a bunch of customizing.

http://gregfeld.com/pics/NRMRight1.jpg

[Soap]

Thanks for twisting my arm guys. I just bought one this morning. Range report and pics will follow next week. Thanks for all the input.