Glock 19


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Pimpstar00
December 17, 2008, 07:34 PM
I was considering getting a crimson trace laser grip for the G-19. I have not even been able to handle a weapon with this on. A few questions....

How is the grip effected?
Is it comfortable?
The activation button looks small, will it always come on when needed?
Ease of installation?
Also, if you can give an overall impression and if you recommend it.

Thank You In Advance!

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possum
December 17, 2008, 08:02 PM
the only personal reason that i have for a laser is to do dry fire exercise, for that i would get a weapon mounted one.

anyway to your questions.
1) not too bad, but i don't like the grip frames on the glocks anyway so adding to it makes it no better for me.
2)same as above but that is for me personallly.
3) yes, there is an on/off witch and there is an on button. the buttom is easy to get on and use in a normal firing grip.
4) easy enough.
5) they make good stuff and i recommend them, i personaly have little use for a laser especially one that ispermanent on one particular gun.

Snarlingiron
December 17, 2008, 09:53 PM
My personal take on lasers is the $300.00 would be better spent on ammo and range time.

distra
December 17, 2008, 10:12 PM
I have a shooting buddy with CT on his 19. I must say it does nothing for his accuracy. He pays to much attention to the red dot that's bouncing around from recoil. I'd drop the laser and spend the $ on shooting, maybe get another used pistol. :D Lasers are cool in the movies, but practically they don't do much for me. You are better off learning to point shoot the G19 (which for me has come very naturally). When SHTF you will not be worrying about your front site or laser dot, you'll be looking very intently at the one trying to do you harm. Practice, practice, practice.

Kind of Blued
December 18, 2008, 05:26 AM
When SHTF you will not be worrying about your front site or laser dot, you'll be looking very intently at the one trying to do you harm.

Which seems to prove the point of the laser; that it'll be a lot easier to defend yourself if said individual has a big red dot on him.

distra
December 18, 2008, 07:51 AM
Which seems to prove the point of the laser; that it'll be a lot easier to defend yourself if said individual has a big red dot on him.


The actual size of that "big red dot" painted on a target at self defense distance ain't so "big". ;) Point shooting does not rely on technology that could fail or batteries to run down. I've seen the same individual shoot with the CT on and off. His target acquisition and accuracy was much better without the laser. Given the cost, IMHO I don't see $300 improvement in shooting accuracy or target acquisition. Plus when ever I register my trigger finger against the slide, I block the laser beam preventing me from using the beam to line up the target. If the OP is really wanting a laser, he could try a cheaper rail mounted version to see if it works for them.

GRIZ22
December 18, 2008, 01:44 PM
His target acquisition and accuracy was much better without the laser.

This is because he's looking for the red dot. I'm not a fan of lasers although they have their place is special applications. It's not that hard to learn to point shoot if you understand the basics.

Old Navy
December 18, 2008, 06:00 PM
I have a G19 with CT laser grips. It's wonderful. Do I need it to shoot well? no. The dot is not huge in bright sunlight. The dot IS huge in your bedroom. They can be had for $169 from Shooters-resource.com. They are fun as heck to use and Bad guys probably would be slightly intimidated with that dot on his chest.

Borch
December 19, 2008, 02:51 AM
I've got one on my 23 and I love it. I have really wide hands and without the laser I get bit by the slide every time, but the laser grip extends the backstrap and forces my grip downward enough that the slide clears my hand. I find it to be very comfortable and the installation was a snap.

As far as the button goes, it's right there in the web of your hand. So at first, every time you draw the weapon the laser comes on. With some practice you will learn exactly how tight or loose of a grip to use to turn the laser on or off. I found it much simpler to learn and operate than fumbling with the index finger switches on my buddy's rail mounted light/laser.

zignal_zero
December 19, 2008, 07:36 AM
i do NOT own one, but i have made several trips to the shop just to play with the one i was considering buying. my observations -

yes, it makes the grip fatter

yes, it is comfortable, but i like Berettas also, so fat obiously isn't a problem for me

the on/off switch is perfect. easy on every time, but limited chance of accidental on.

it is IMPOSSIBLE to sight it "dead on" at EVERY distance. the laser line and bore axis cannot parrell eachother or they will NEVER intersect, if they are angled to intersect it will only be at one distance. does that make sense?

i think lasers are a good thing if they are not used as a substitute for practice, they are not a magic trick to turn pilgrims into pistoleros.

i cannot have one :( a clipdraw is more important to me and i don't think they would share the same side of the weapon well.

357sigRog
December 20, 2008, 01:40 AM
I went with the Lasermax to avoid the thicker grip in back. I like the internal guide rod laser, it has never given me any problems.

Pimpstar00
December 23, 2008, 05:26 PM
I agree with spending money on practice and ammo and other guns, but i really like this and ordered it already. I know it can only be sighted in perfectly for a certain distance, but it will be pretty accurate i think. I hope i enjoy it, I already enjoy my m6x but this will be easier to turn on.

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