1911 for everyday carry What,s Best


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Ruger
December 19, 2008, 09:36 AM
Hello to all , Looking to trade up from my Glock 27, 40 cal. to a new 1911 in 45 cal. to carry. I figure it's worth about $300.00 for a trade it has a little holster ware on front tube and in front of the rear sight. So any thoughts to a good 1911 somewhere in the $600.00- $800.00 range, for everyday carry. Unless Santa maybe can be bribed into being really nice for Christmas and maybe go just a little more higher in price. I was looking at Kimbers but lately they have not had any great reviews, I really like the new Para Ordance models, but I don't know anyone who has any to compare to. A local gun shop owner has told me that the new Smith & Wessons have come a long way and he would buy over Kimber . Waiting for all your thoughts. happy Hollidays to all.

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SGR
December 19, 2008, 09:49 AM
Springfield Mil-Spec.

mljdeckard
December 19, 2008, 09:56 AM
My dad just got a mil-spec, I have been carrying a Kimber Custom II for several years now.

Ruger
December 19, 2008, 10:19 AM
Thank you, I no nothing about mil-spec. I will check out their web site . This site is great , I came across it looking for some info on a hammer shotgun marked Grant & company. But knowone seems to have any anwsers. I was hoping it was a Stephen Grant but I'm not that lucky. Happy Hollidays to you and yours.

Keoni
December 19, 2008, 10:27 AM
Used Pre-Series II Kimber Pro Carry or Compact. I find the steel frame full size too heavy and the 5" bbl. bothersome while seated.

Robert
December 19, 2008, 10:30 AM
I carry a full size Colt Gov't on a daily basis, because well it's the only handgun I own. My only grip about the full size is the spur hammer, damn thing tries to rip out my kidney from time to time... So make sure whatever you go with has a carry friendly hammer.

And to actually answer your question, in that price rage I'd go with a Springfield. My brother carries a Kimber but paid way more than $800 for it. Nice pistol though.

pith43
December 19, 2008, 10:40 AM
I have a Kimber Ultra Covert that I carry. Shoots accurately and flawlessly, compact and lightweight. Summertime I sometimes leave the 1911 at home and just carry my j-frame .357

HexHead
December 19, 2008, 12:16 PM
In that price range either a Kimber Pro Carry II or a Springfield Champion.

I've had two Kimbers, including a Pro Carry II and both were flawless in their operation. I started out with a Springfield GI Champion, but it was a little too plain jane for my tastes. I mil-spec or a Loaded would be a better choice.

If you're lucky you might be able to find a Colt Commander in that price range. I much prefer barrel bushings to a bull barrel for field stripping the pistol. I traded my Champion for a Kimber Royal II, and sold my PCII when I got my Nighthawk partially for that reason.

propex
December 19, 2008, 12:24 PM
I carry a Dan Wesson CBOB

dogngun
December 19, 2008, 04:02 PM
RIA or other Armscor - made 1911.


mark

cjw3cma
December 19, 2008, 05:49 PM
Head over to CenterFire Systems as they have FREE SHIPPING on two (2) great RIA guns - the 5" tactical for $399 and the (beautiful) nickel GI for $419.

bubbat190
December 19, 2008, 06:09 PM
The springfield 1911 loaded is a step above the mil-spec and just gives it a more modern look thats what i carry and i love it check out places like gunbroker. com they have some great deals on 1911's

floydster
December 19, 2008, 06:13 PM
RIA Compact, best gun for the money, bar none.
Floydster

modifiedbrowning
December 19, 2008, 07:18 PM
S&W 1911 PD or the discontinued 1911 Sc. Both are Commander length pistols (4.25 barrel).

Big B
December 19, 2008, 07:49 PM
+1 on the Dan Wesson Commander Bobtail(CBOB). I thought I wanted an XD until I got to handle a CBOB. They list for a little more than $1100 out here, but I think it's worth saving for. They've done a lot of work making this a comfortable 1911 to carry.

benderx4
December 19, 2008, 07:56 PM
Springfield Loaded or Dan Wesson PM7. My experience has been (as has many folks on these threads) that the smaller the 1911, 5" vs 4" vs 3", the more problems inherent with the gun. Pretty much all the full size 1911s I've owned have had little or no problems. Same can not be said for my Colt Defender, Kimber Pro CDP II, and/or Para Warthog. If you want something smaller for CCW, my recommendation would be to move down to a 9mm (more capacity), and a different weapon platform. (HK, Glock, Kahr, Sig, etc.)

Claude Clay
December 19, 2008, 07:56 PM
if you can become compentant with a colt defender or a LW commander. 3rd would be a all steel in whatever length wears comfortably on your person.

CoRoMo
December 19, 2008, 07:58 PM
I recently created a poll thread of, what I believe to be, some of the very best 1911s in your very price range. It might be helpful.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=413106

My vote goes to the Springfield. It will be in my collection soon.

orionengnr
December 19, 2008, 08:04 PM
Lots of nice stuff out there.
You ought to take a look at what is available and see what appeals to you. Once you find something that looks good, see what feels comfortable size and weight wise.

For me, a 5" all-steel 1911 Government model is too large and too heavy (41-43 oz empty) to conceal/carry comfortably. I am happier carrying an alloy-framed 3" (24 oz) or 4" (28 oz) Kimber, although I also own and hope to "work my way up" to carrying a steel Government Model some day.

Of the seven Kimbers I have owned, I have not paid more than $800 for any, and many have been higher-end models--Pro CDP, Ultra CDP, Pro Eclipse and Custom Eclipse. The deals are out there, just keep your eyes open. If you can buy FTF and "try before you buy", so much the better.

Kryzen
December 19, 2008, 08:07 PM
Taurus 1911

MICHAEL T
December 19, 2008, 08:19 PM
Colt Defender if Compact or a Dan Wesson bobtail Commander.

FoMoGo
December 19, 2008, 08:51 PM
We have a Rock Island Match and a High Standard Compact that we daily carry.
My adjustable match sights are not the best for carry, some lower profile sights like some novaks would be better.
http://www.turbopinto.com/images/guns/1911s.jpg


Jim

threefeathers
December 19, 2008, 08:56 PM
In that price range you can find a noce used Colt Series 70, or a used Springfield or Kimber. New, the Springfield Military, or better yet, the STI Trojan which will be my next 1911.

ferretray
December 19, 2008, 09:33 PM
I bought a nice blued Colt Mark IV/Series 80 lightweight Commander awhile back for $699.00. The NIB blued all steel Commanders are selling pretty cheap on Gunsamerica right now.

zignal_zero
December 19, 2008, 09:44 PM
couple things to keep in mind -

(1) if you try to go from carrying a G27 to a full size 1911, you are going to hate life. i can't speak for the little .45's, but i shelved my G23 and gave a full size 1911 a test carry (for a couple days). IT SUKT :mad:

(2) your Glock has a firing pin block. as much as i like Springers, they don't. this doesn't matter to a WHOLE LOT of people, it does to me.

i cut my teeth on a Colt Gold Cup (series 70), and love 1911's, but it's difficult to carry the full size one if you're used to mini guns.

FoMoGo
December 19, 2008, 10:56 PM
You would be surprised how easy a full sized 1911 is forgotten with a good belt and holster... and I honestly dont notice the compact.


Jim

hinton03
December 20, 2008, 05:56 AM
Bought a new Colt 1991 Commander for $785; it feeds everything, locks up tight and the trigger is passable.

I bought it for a custom project so it is off at the smith, but after shooting it stock I had to think twice.

OleCodger
December 20, 2008, 10:11 AM
I have a brand new Taurus 1911.....well, actually I've had it for a month or so. Very interested in what leather setup you're using? Don't mean to get this train off its track but it sounds like you're one satisfied camper with your setup!

Thanks,

KyJim
December 20, 2008, 12:40 PM
Col. Jeff Cooper, first disciple to John Moses Browning, carried a Lightweight Colt Commander for normal carry, at least toward the end of his life. This is at the upper end of your limit or slightly above it. It would be my first choice. Second choice the SW PD model (4.25 inch model) which is also alloy framed and at your upper limit. I would recommend either of these. If you want one with rails (yuck), then Springfield Armory makes the Lightweight Champion Operator -- not sure about the price.

Some people carry full size (or government) all steel 1911s. However, a lot of people prefer an alloy framed pistol as the weight makes a difference over the course of the day. While some can conceal a 5 inch barrel, I have some trouble with this (I'm short). Anything with less than a 4.25 inch barrel has a greater chance of reliability problems. I'm not saying there aren't reliable guns with short barrels, just that there's a much greater chance for problems. This is not debatable -- a fact. I own two short barreled 1911s so I like the concept. I traded a third because of reliability problems. So,unless you're willing to run this risk and have to have the gun tuned or to trade it, stay away from anything less than 4.25 inches.

RIA -- good rep for an entry level gun but it is all-steel, good rep for customer service (CS).

Taurus -- spotty reputation for quality, poor CS rep. Does not have lightweight frame.

Kimber -- makes attractive and accurate guns but, in recent years, increased problems. Notorious for needing hundreds of rounds to break-in and so-so CS. A little above your price point.

Colt -- Rock solid base gun. Works out of the box, though not the most accurate gun out there. Good CS. At upper range of price range.

Dan Wesson -- Good quality guns, good CS. A little beyond your price range and don't offer lightweight frame.

SW -- Has an unusual safety system but it seems to work. Good rep for the guns and good CS.

Springfield -- Good rep for guns, good rep for CS. Has an internal lock which some don't like but it is nearly invisible.

deltaroc
December 20, 2008, 02:44 PM
I have had my Para Ordnance Slim Hawg for 4 months, I carry it just about everywhere I go either in a Hume IWB or a Hume JIT Slide. Nice looking, small and deadly accurate. I have fired all brands of ammo, JHP and Ball, all cycle fine, not a single ftf or stovepipe. For the money, just what I expected! Darn nice looking too!
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x32/LaGattaDJ/para.jpg

DawgFvr
December 20, 2008, 06:41 PM
.45 ACP is a great round...Browning designed this subsonic round for a 5 inch barrel for optimum potential. Anything less than a 5 inch barrel, IMHO, is sub-par.

If you decided to actually attempt to conceal a full size .45 ACP...good luck. They work great in OWB configuartion with a Sam Brown pistol belt.

Christ...if I am going to lug something that large, I'll just strap on my .357 mag revovler.

FoMoGo
December 20, 2008, 06:56 PM
Hey FoMoGo.....
I have a brand new Taurus 1911.....well, actually I've had it for a month or so. Very interested in what leather setup you're using? Don't mean to get this train off its track but it sounds like you're one satisfied camper with your setup!

Thanks,
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OleCodger
I carry my RIA Match in a Bianchi Carrylok holster on a fairly sturdy belt at between 3 and 4 o clock.
http://www.turbopinto.com/images/guns/matchcarry.jpg
http://www.turbopinto.com/images/guns/matchholster.jpg
http://www.turbopinto.com/images/guns/matchholstered.jpg
I strap it on when I get dressed and put it on the nightstand when I go to bed, 12-17 hours a day on my hip.
And for a comparison, this is a High Standard Crusader Compact in a suitably sized Bianchi Carrylok.
http://www.turbopinto.com/images/guns/compactcarry.jpg


Jim

altitude_19
December 20, 2008, 09:30 PM
If you really mean ALL DAY carry:
Most 1911s can run around 40oz. IMO, any all-day carry gun over 32oz in unacceptable. Sounds like you need an alloy model. Have you looked at the S&W 1911 SC? I carry a Scandium revolver daily (J frame or N frame) and the stuff seems pretty darn sturdy (and LIGHT). S&W lists a 1911 SC for over $1000 but I saw one that should still be on gunbroker for around $730 yesterday.

ADKilla
December 21, 2008, 09:43 AM
KYJim,
Agree with most everything in your post, except I'm not short. Never the less, your observations echo mine.

Boats
December 21, 2008, 10:11 AM
What JMB designed 45ACP hardball to do from a 5" barrel has little to do with what modern JHP designs can do out of four inch barrels.

OleCodger
December 21, 2008, 10:52 AM
Very nice looking holster's and pistols......tnx for taking the time for the pics and the feedback....

C A

FoMoGo
December 21, 2008, 12:02 PM
No problem, I know quite a few people who have spent hundreds of dollars on holsters and not found the right one.
What I carry wont be the right choice for everyone, or perhaps most... but it works very well for me, and there is a chance that someone who has similar needs and weaponry could find a good carry setup and save a few bucks if my setup looks inviting.


Jim

MP3Mogul
December 21, 2008, 12:03 PM
I carry a RIA Tactical Match .45 full sized. It's been 100% right out of the box and the price will not break you.

GunNut
December 21, 2008, 03:00 PM
S&W 1911PD or DW CBOB, IMHO.

I've had a 1911PD and it was a great gun, but got sold for some stupid reason. I plan on picking up a CBOB sometime by summer, once all of my evil black guns are finished.

Yo Mama
December 21, 2008, 04:31 PM
Go with a milspec.

I always get nervous carrying a gun with adjustable sights, so my advise would be fixed only on a carry gun. They won't snag as much either.

Also, you know that the 1911 will weigh you down more than your current Glock.

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