308 load using IMR 4064 and 150 grn FMJs?


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Frankl03
December 20, 2008, 10:28 PM
I'm just starting to reload for 308. I have been reloading (223) for a while. I'm going to use IMR 4064 to start with and Hornady 150 grn FMJBTs and CCI large rifle primers. I have been looking for a load but have yet to find one using this combination of powder and bullets. I'm looking for a midrange load to start with. I'm can work up from there. I'm using a Classic 4 hole turret press.

I will be shooting these in a bolt rifle (FN pbr). Thanks for your help!

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kludge
December 20, 2008, 10:41 PM
Look here first.

http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

Frankl03
December 20, 2008, 10:52 PM
I must be missing something?

I have looked at this site and unless I'm not using it right, the closest bullet listed is this one. Can I use the load listed for this bullet?

150 GR. NOS BT

evan price
December 21, 2008, 01:27 AM
26 grains of 4064 is a good start.

This is a woefully low load and should not be tried in a 308, Edited by Brian Williams

Shoney
December 21, 2008, 01:41 AM
Evan Price:what:
WOOOoohhhh there Evan! Starting load according to my data is 43.0 grains.

Frankl03: You should be fine using the 150 Nosler data. Begin with the start load and work u in 0.5 gr increments til you see pressure signs or get to max listed load.

Good Shooting!

Frankl03
December 21, 2008, 05:53 AM
Thanks for the help!

Remo-99
December 21, 2008, 06:54 AM
Frankl03, IMR-4064 for 308win with 150gr bullets, the max listed from hodgdons online data is 47.7gr and it states it's a compressed charge.

The listed data was compiled with a 150gr Nosler BT, But like Shoney mentioned, workup almost any bullet of that weight, from the lower load, towards the max, and stop when/if you start getting signs of over pressure (and reduce charge, if there is).

bearwolf
December 21, 2008, 11:28 AM
I use 45 to 45.5 gr of IMR4064 with my 150gr bullets. Works like a champ. BTW I use win wlr primers and win brass.

Brian Williams
December 21, 2008, 11:53 AM
This load is for a 7mm-08, and remember to use caution in reloading
I have a favorite load for my 7mm-08 and I found it by loading 5 cartridges from the starting load and incrementing at .2 grains to a load just below the high load and found that 42.4 grains with a 140gr SPBT Sierra work very well and is very accurate.
You should do similar, start at or near the starting load and increase the charge by .2 or .4 every 3 to 5 cartridges.

Shoot each load and measure each group, find the group that is the tightest.
Some people even go as far as then doing 1gr increments.

USSR
December 21, 2008, 07:41 PM
Franl03,

Your load will depend upon what brass you are using.

Don

SlamFire1
December 21, 2008, 08:12 PM
You would be surprised on how low you can go with IMR 4064, in a 308 case, and still get excellent accuracy.

David Tubb recommended a load of 150 SMK and 39.0 grs IMR 4064 for offhand and sitting. And I copied it. This load will clean the 200 yard NRA target, as I have done that on occasion, though I do not shoot it beyond 200 yards. I just shot it across my screens one day, to see what was going on. It shot well in this rifle, but not exceptionally well.

I have shot the 150 gr Hornady in a 26” barreled Ruger. I did not use IMR 4064. I did use AA2520. A very accurate load was 43.5 grs AA2520. Based on my experience with IMR 4064, adding one grain to a IMR 4895 or AA2520, generally gives the same velocity.

If you have any IMR 3031, take a look at that target.

So, I would try 44.0, 44.5 grains of IMR 4064, and that should put you around 2700 fps in your 24” barreled rifle.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/SlamFire/Targets/150SMK390IMR4064.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/SlamFire/Targets/150Hornady435grsAA2520.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/SlamFire/Targets/150Hornday410grsIMR3031-1.jpg

moonzapa
December 21, 2008, 08:28 PM
43.0 grains of IMR 4064 over a 165 Gr Sierra was a tack driving load for my Ruger M77 Ultra Light in .308 Winchester. You're on the right track.

Frankl03
December 21, 2008, 09:57 PM
Thanks for all the replies! It helps alot! Lots of good info!

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