I got to shoot a High Point 995 Carbine today. It was quite a fun little gun. I am thinking about buying one. However, I have a few questions. What are your reactions to the gun? Any misfire, malfunctions, poor accuracy, problems in general? Are there high capacity magazines available? How does it compare in performance, not price, to Beretta's and Ruger's and other companies' carbines? The only thing that I felt was bad was the trigger pull. It seemed to break crisply, but it took a lot of squeeze. Your input is appreciated. Thanks.
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December 21, 2008, 05:17 PM
I have a friend who's been a gunsmith for about 16 years. He's described the Hi Point firearms as being assembled with glue by a drunk monkey. They're not very accurate. You'd be much better with a Beretta or even a Keltec.
December 21, 2008, 05:24 PM
High Point 9MM Carbines have a great rep for reliability and accuracy. The drunk monkeys must know what they are doing.
I have a Kel-Tec 9MM Carbine and like it a lot. I also have an AR in 9MM. I had a Beretta CX4 Storm, but sold it to help finance the AR. The Beretta was a great little gun, it just did not float my boat.
I almost bought a High Point 9MM Carbine a couple of times. I would not hesitate to pick one up if the price was right.
December 21, 2008, 05:26 PM
A lot of the negative commentary you hear about Hi-Point products is from folks who don't own them and are basing their opinions off of appearances and cost.
"Ewwww, it's ugly. It must be a POS."
"That thing is priced soooooo cheap, it can't be any good."
December 21, 2008, 05:31 PM
I had one for a while, it was a friends who moved out of town. He beat the crap out of it. It was in awful condition, and was missing the rear sight. It just had the hood that was around the sight, and that was bent. All of that said. It was accurate and fun. And pretty reliable. I was able to shoot it accurately to around 40 yards with no proper rear sight. Beyond that it was a little trickier. If I had the extra cash for one, Id pick one up in a heartbeat.
December 21, 2008, 05:36 PM
He's described the Hi Point firearms as being assembled with glue by a drunk monkey. They're not very accurate.
No offense, but your gunsmith friend is either an idiot, or has a huge chip on his shoulder.
Hi-Point carbines (and the pistols as well) are admittedly god-awful ugly guns. And yes, they're considerably rougher in quality than most other brands out there. But, there's a reason for that - they build for strength and reliability, at a good price.
The 995 I recently sold was a great shooter, and perfectly accurate as long as I did my job. I will second what the OP mentioned about the trigger pull being heavy, but that is fixable if one wishes.
I'd not hesitate to buy another 995, if I had the time to shoot it. (which is why I sold the one I had)
And one last thing - what other company is going to offer a full, no-questions-asked lifetime warranty for a sub-$300 gun, whether you're the original owner or not?
December 21, 2008, 06:05 PM
i got one recently and havent shot it yet so i dont know about accuracy or anything like that other than second hand and none of what ive heard has been bad.
i looked around for hi cap mags and found that there is a 15 rnd mag available and there is also an aftermarket stock (ati) that mkes it look decent. nothing could ever make it sexy. but my opinion on that is that i got a $200 gun for shooting cans and maybe for the short range head/neck shots on deer that i get when hunting my own property during early/late doe seasons.
long as its good enough for that why make it a $300 gun?
December 21, 2008, 06:39 PM
I've got one that I can shoot as well as my friend's AR. At 75 yards I can place 30 rounds in an 8 inch circle, and I can make hits on a 2x2 target consistently at over 100 yards. It may be an ugly pistol caliber carbine, but you can put holes in things much further away than you can with a pistol.
December 21, 2008, 06:57 PM
I had one and it was accurate and fun to shoot, but I got bored with it.
The plastic trigger broke, but their customer service was very impressive and sent me replacement parts very quickly.
Its a fun little carbine at a good price-if you are looking for a plinker this is a fun one.
December 21, 2008, 07:17 PM
995's are decent as long as you don't expect them to perform like a $800.00 carbine
December 21, 2008, 07:24 PM
I owned one but sold it. The things is fugly, flexible and made like a whiffle ball bat, but it was also very accurate out to 50+ yards and never malfunctioned using brass cased and Wolf ammo.
They're fun and cheap to shoot. They're not heirloom quality by any means but if you're looking for a 9mm in something other than a pistol, then get one.
December 21, 2008, 07:32 PM
Beware of the high capacity magazines. According to the HiPoint forum most of the aftermarket 15 round magazines do not work.
I own two highpoints, a 995 carbine and a .45 pistol. I am happy with the purchases.
HiPoints allow the poorman to get a reliable firearm at a decent price. The only weakpoint in the design is the firing pin since they do break. It also serves the ejector.
December 21, 2008, 09:02 PM
Love my 995, very accurate and very reliable. The ATI stock is a great upgrade. I shoot mine along with my buddy and his CX4. OK, I would rather have his, but there really isn't that much difference...which he readily admits. Mag capacity is the only down-side, but at our range you can only load 5 at a time on the rifle range anyway.
December 21, 2008, 09:39 PM
Here it is in the ATI stock, which IMO takes care of the main complaint for only $60. There are no hi cap factory mags available, this is the main drawback but I am in NY so does not affect me.
2500 no misfired rounds and counting. Drunk monkey? I think not.
December 21, 2008, 10:38 PM
I have a .40 and bought my grandson a 9mm. They're both very accurate and reliable so far, no problems. Lots of fun too!
This was my first target with the .40, right out of the box. 50 rounds at 15 yards, indoors. No cleaning, no sight adjustments, stock sights, standing freehand, black sights on black target indoors, with trifocals. And I'm not the most experienced shooter in the world. The range attendant had heard of them and stood behind me to see how the carbine would shoot. She just said, "dayum!".
Not the prettiest by far, not the most expensive but it's definitely a good gun.
Most people who've never even held one are going to be the ones bashing it.
They're more than good enough for the money, especially when you factor in the lifetime no questions warranty. Though, you'll have to keep the original stock if you want that since Kel-tec doesn't service weapons with the ATI stock on it.
December 22, 2008, 10:31 AM
Though, you'll have to keep the original stock if you want that since Kel-tec doesn't service weapons with the ATI stock on it. Wishful thinking?
December 22, 2008, 10:56 AM
a buddy has one and he is unhappy with it. He says it's junk.
Not accurate and jams.
December 22, 2008, 10:58 AM
Though, you'll have to keep the original stock if you want that since Kel-tec doesn't service weapons with the ATI stock on it
From what I hear if you send it in an ATI stock they will actually replace the stock back to original and send the ATI stock back to you along with your fixed carbine.
a buddy has one and he is unhappy with it. He says it's junk.
Not accurate and jams.
I think your buddy is exaggerating about the accuracy and honestly it is a $165 rifle. Maybe he needs to attenuate his expectations. Spend a little extra for the ATI stock and a metal trigger and the gun is transformed to a good looking, reliable, accurate and still cheap rifle. That said from my personal experiences and from what I hear from actual owners the hi point 995 is reliable and fairly accurate out to 75 yards.
December 22, 2008, 11:15 AM
The drunk monkeys must know what they are doing.
Yes, they're ugly. The also work. History is replete with subguns that were ugly and still work. Let's see... the STEN Gun Series.... MP38/40 Series, PPsH41 & 43 Series, Swedish K, M3A1.... All those and more, cheap, oh yes. Big value though - I seem to recall a STEN gun cost the Brits about $8 each to manufacture and they were happy to have each one.
Thompsons, H&K MP5s and others ARE nice firearms. But at well under $200, let's call the High Point firearms "bargain utility tools" or something a bit more respectful than "junk."
December 22, 2008, 11:27 AM
I love my Highpoint 995. I enjoy shooting it more then my AR.
It is reliables and dead on. Bang for buck, you can not beat it.