What guns can I bring to CA
Bob R
September 23, 2003, 08:04 PM
I will be showing up in San Jose (CA) for a 3 month job at the beginning of Oct. I know the rules are beyond absurd there, but, can I bring any guns with me. I do not plan on telling the state I have them with me.
I have already decided to leave my M1A at home, but what about my AR10? I am assuming it is way beyond evil there, even though it is green and not black. So, it will probably stay home also.
I may just bring my K31, Hakim, and SVT 40 to play with. Probably my swede mauser also.
Now, how about handguns, I go nowhere without my Para P14, (hi cap mags ok?)I am assuming my CZ52 and revolvers will be OK.
Now, where around the San Jose area can I shoot these without worrying about the CA version of PC police swooping down on me and my guns?
Any good S&W smiths in the area, I may want some work done to one of my M57's.
TIA for any info and advice.
bob
edited to add... Ans I will leave my nightvision at home with my M1A...
Sniperscopes
468. Any person who knowingly buys, sells, receives, disposes of, conceals, or has in his possession a sniperscope shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000) or by imprisonment in the county jail for not more than one year, or by both such fine and imprisonment. As used in this section, sniperscope means any attachment, device or similar contrivance designed for or adaptable to use on a firearm which, through the use of a projected infrared light source and electronic telescope, enables the operator thereof to visually determine and locate the presence of objects during the nighttime. This section shall not prohibit the authorized use or possession of such sniperscope by a member of the armed forces of the United States or by police officers, peace officers, or law enforcement officers authorized by the properly constituted authorities for the enforcement of law or ordinances; nor shall this section prohibit the use or possession of such sniperscope when used solely for scientific research or educational purposes.
Holy moly, at least it is only for 3 months.
bob
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Quartus
September 23, 2003, 08:23 PM
No guns, Bob. Sorry. Drop them off at my house in Salt Lake on your way out to Kali. I'll take care of them for you.
4 months later...
Bob? Who's Bob?
:D
Bob R
September 23, 2003, 08:39 PM
No guns, Bob.
That is just about the conclusion I have come to after going to the CA DOJ site. What a dismal state of affairs our gun owning brethern have in CA.
bob
Quartus
September 23, 2003, 09:38 PM
I hope someone who's still there will drop by and give you a SERIOUS answer. It IS a bad situation. I suspect you can get away with a bolt action .22.
Maybe.
redhead
September 23, 2003, 10:13 PM
The problem with bringing handguns into the state is that you are considered a "handgun importer" and have to register them with the DOJ within 60 days of your arrival. I don't know if there are any exceptions for temporary residents. And, it costs $14 per handgun to register them. I wouldn't worry about hicaps, it's legal to possess them, you just can't buy, trade or sell them. Bolt action rifles should be OK. Semi-autos get a little dicey, as you have to consider what "features" they have. For example, a semi auto with a pistol grip cannot have a removeable magazine, you have to have a fixed magazine on it. If you have one with no pistol grip, then you can have a removeable magazine. Don't even think about flash hiders. I'm no expert on the "assault" weapon regulations, but these are a few of the things that I'm aware of.
Hot brass
September 23, 2003, 10:43 PM
Damned near none:mad:
Dumb ??? state laws:cuss:
simon
September 23, 2003, 11:01 PM
Well, the revolvers,the mauser and K31 should be ok...
hops
September 23, 2003, 11:38 PM
Here is a web link to places to shoot in the SF bay area. I've shot at Target Masters in Milpitas and Reeds in SJ. http://www.california.com/~jtchew/BAranges.html
As far as the guns you take - your call. I always take a handgun or 2 for target shooting with friends. But I'm usually there for less than a week. Just long enough to remind me why I left the place.
Carnitas
September 24, 2003, 01:25 AM
AR stays home, but the M1A is one of the few decent rifles which are allowed in the state. It must have a brake installed in place of the flash hider though.
Most pistols are ok as long as you're not talking about a tech-9 or other "assault" type pistol.
You should probably limit yourself to 10 rounders for all.
tyme
September 24, 2003, 01:35 AM
"I wouldn't worry about hicaps, it's legal to possess them, you just can't buy, trade or sell them."
As I recall, that isn't the whole truth. It's legal to possess them, but not legal to transfer, buy, or import them. Unless you were in Kali and in possession of the same normal-cap mags before the ban, which everyone was, right? :uhoh:
I think I remember something way back when about temporary residents not being required to register handguns, but I suspect if that's the case you'll want to contact the CA DOJ to confirm, preferably in writing.
redhead
September 24, 2003, 01:51 AM
Whoops. That's right. You don't want to be importing those hicaps. If you already live here and already own them, then fine and dandy. You just don't want to be bringing them in. My bad.
rayra
September 24, 2003, 02:20 AM
Yup. pretty damned restrictive here, especially for the situation presented.
If I were you, I'd plan and take a documented trip out of state / home at the 6-week mark, to alleviate concern about the 60day reporting requirement.
That way your owning / using them is 'covered' if for some reason they come to the attention of the authorities.
Bostonterrier97
September 24, 2003, 02:27 AM
I have already decided to leave my M1A at home, but what about my AR10? I am assuming it is way beyond evil there, even though it is green and not black. So, it will probably stay home also.
I may just bring my K31, Hakim, and SVT 40 to play with. Probably my swede mauser also.
Now, how about handguns, I go nowhere without my Para P14, (hi cap mags ok?)I am assuming my CZ52 and revolvers will be OK.
Now, where around the San Jose area can I shoot these without worrying about the CA version of PC police swooping down on me and my guns?
Any good S&W smiths in the area, I may want some work done to one of my M57's.
TIA for any info and advice.
bob
You can bring the M1A just as long as you remove the Flash Hider and leave any magazine which holds more than 10 rounds home.
The AR10 ..you cannot bring. It would be considered to be an unregistered assault weapon which is a Felony.
NO HI CAP Mags allowed in Kalifornia
If you bring any handgun into California you will have to register it with the State DOJ.
Your Mauser and K31 are ok to bring.
Good places to shoot.
Los Altos Gun and Rod club in the Los Gatos mountains
Markleys Gun Store and Gun Range in Watsonville
National Shooting Club in Santa Clara (well..it used to be called the National Shooting club..) it is off of 101 near the Great America Parkway
4570Rick
September 24, 2003, 02:37 AM
Here's a few ideas for the guns you could bring to Kali.
1. Any gun you don't mind loosing to the Kali Gun Grabbers.
2. Any gun invisable enough for Mall Ninjas.
3. Any gun you think you'll need to defend US sovereignty.
If you don't have any that will serve these purposes, you'd better leave them home.:( :banghead:
HankB
September 24, 2003, 08:57 AM
...sniperscope means any attachment, device or similar contrivance designed for or adaptable to use on a firearm which, through the use of a projected infrared light source... The old sniperscopes had a big IR floodlight on top. From reading this, modern night vision, using passive light amplification, is OK UNLESS you add something like an IR pointer to it.
Agent7
September 24, 2003, 09:28 AM
There are assualt rifle laws in CA that are not like laws in other states. You should read up on this because some penalties can be quite severe, even for a pre-ban assualt rifle. The quick run down was nearly all CA citizens owning assualt rifles required registration a few years ago. If you did not register, it's too late now as they only accepted registration for a short timeframe.
http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/
Skunkabilly
September 24, 2003, 10:40 AM
What's an SVT? So Very Tactical?
Check out the CA Atty Gen web site and see if it's on the happy-list.... :banghead:
:cuss: Gray Davis!
Bob R
September 24, 2003, 12:35 PM
So tactical, it was years ahead of its time!!
Yes sir, a fine weapon. Built in 1941, semi-automatic, removable mag, and a dreaded flash hider.
So far ahead of its time that a gun built 62 years ago is now considered the assault weapon of today (at least in CA).
http://www.ankkurinvarsi.net/jaeger/SVT40.jpg
I am now going to have to stop typing, hard to see the keyboard as I shake my head back and forth in wonderment and disgust.
Looks like it will be bolt action milsurps for me in CA.
Everyhing else I own is EVIL !!!
Except for a few revolvers.
bob
Ewok
September 24, 2003, 03:07 PM
Check out the San Jose Zouaves Rifle Club. (http://www.zouaves.org/)
gunsmith
September 24, 2003, 05:15 PM
mauser for fun.
revolver for self defense,with a wheel gun you don't have to
stop to police up the brass b4 leaving the scene of your self defense shooting.
don't bring hi caps unless you have someone to borrow them from
who had them b4 1998,I think thats the cutoff date
WonderNine
September 24, 2003, 05:19 PM
Don't bring any normal capacity mags with you or you will considered importing them as you weren't a resident of the state before the Kali mag ban so only bring Clinton jobbys with you.
Oracle
September 24, 2003, 05:53 PM
I can't see how you'd have to register guns you bring into CA if you're not staying long. I know that SASS has a tournament there every year, and I'm pretty sure there is no requirement for the visitors to register their guns.
Standing Wolf
September 24, 2003, 11:06 PM
...I've shot at Target Masters in Milpitas and...
I used to shoot at Target Masters once in a great while after the National Shooting Club went out of business. It was okay during the week, especially in the afternoons, but on the week ends, it was packed with illegal aliens who didn't have the first clue about shooting safely.
bountyhunter
September 25, 2003, 01:43 PM
I used to shoot at Target Masters once in a great while after the National Shooting Club went out of business. It was okay during the week, especially in the afternoons, but on the week ends, it was packed with illegal aliens who didn't have the first clue about shooting safely.
Not to mention the gang-bangers and skinheads there to stock up for the urban warfare.
National re-opened as Reed's and it is a first class facility.
10-Ring
September 25, 2003, 03:38 PM
Whatever it is, NO! :evil:
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