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OleCodger
December 22, 2008, 11:35 AM
Oh me, I just received my postage prepaid carton to return my Ruger LCP to the factory for MAJOR MANDATORY modification. I'm upset. They should have personally come to my home and picked up the gun to show a little respect. Yeah, I know, I should have bought a _________(fill in the blank) as it has a perfect reputation of no FTF, not firing when dropped, or ________(again fill in the blank). And additionally Ruger copied the P3AT, Beretta or________(fill in the blank). I may just boycott Ruger for their stealing the patent, that was dirty pool and absolutely unheard of in any other corporation with a USA home base. Yes, I agree, the .380 only would make the assailant angry....(that's why I also carry a baseball bat and sabre for back up protection). Never been shot by a .380 but I'm sure that it would only raise a "hickey" at the point of impact.

But my MAJOR concern is two fold.......1. Ruger should have known better......afterall they've been in business for X number of years and all other manufacturers make perfect pistols, rifles, clubs, baseball bats, etc. And second....the return of the little LCP will leave me almost defenseless for ________ number of months (again fill in the blank). This inconvenience will leave me only with a 16 gauge shotgun, PT1911SS .45 caliber, two High Standard .22's, a Remington 552BDL automatic .22 rifle, a wife that can explode on a second's notice and a J C Higgins single shot .22 as last resort for protection in the LCP's absence. I may have the local PD drive by every hour or so during darkness for insured protection. For daytime protection I'll either carry the 16 gauge or insist that my wife accompany me any time that I leave the house.

If I ever do receive the LCP back into my possession, I will thoroughly test it for anything that Ruger may have over looked, such as fuzz on the trigger or dust in the rifling, also will check for fingerprints other than mine on the main frame. Then I will range test it and report any problems incurred that were not already there prior to shipping the gun back to its origin. I may even wear a bullet proof vest and jockey strap and drop it on concrete to see if it will go bang! This may be a long drawn out process so please be patient. If the little LCP does go bang when I slam it down on concrete, I will also report on the functionality of the bullet proof jockey strap per chance the bullet reallllllly goes awry.

I would cover some other miserable topics but I must close so I can blow my nose and wipe my eyes.......well, actually I'll probably wipe my eyes first!!

All you lucky dudes that didn't buy a LCP have a good safe day and please pray for my safety!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:

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Old Fuff
December 22, 2008, 11:42 AM
You are truly having a hard time, and I feel for 'ya. But that's what you get for buying a gun (any gun). :D

OleCodger
December 22, 2008, 11:52 AM
I'm sorry that I unloaded all my problems on ya but after all, a feller can only take so much..........I will probably end up on sedatives before this whole thing is over.......but such is life!!!!

HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND THANKS FOR LISTENING!!!!

Old Fuff
December 22, 2008, 12:12 PM
Well in the depressing days of our declining years we senior citizens need to stick together. Hopefully you won't have to unleash you wife on some unsuspecting mugger... :evil:

Mike OTDP
December 22, 2008, 04:17 PM
Recommend that you replace the LCP with a death-dealing hangover.

OleCodger
December 22, 2008, 06:33 PM
Tnx for the reccomendation....however, since your solution to my futile problem has some finality involved, I wouldn't be around to moan and groan over what a wicked curve ball that Ruger threw me and I wouldn't miss that for the world!!! I love wallowing in this quagmire......... However, be advised that I truly do appreciate your taking the time to attempt to help me out of this bottomless pit!!!!!!

And a Merry Christmas to you!!!!

dispatch
December 23, 2008, 12:14 AM
WOW-
These things seem to work themselves out don’t they. Major disappointment I’m sure, but I’m guessing you faced worse situations. And, by the way, I’d hate to be the guy that messed with you and that 16 gauge right now. Merry Christmas my brother. If you get to North Texas I’ll buy you a Lone Star Long Neck and a Keller’s Hamburger.

Zundfolge
December 23, 2008, 01:26 AM
So how long from the time you signed up online til you got the packet?

XDShooter07
December 23, 2008, 02:02 AM
Mandatory?? Didn't know the recall was mandatory.....or were you just mid-riot when you wrote that. How would they even know you had an LCP; did you register it with them..........or did you request the recall box?

ccsniper
December 23, 2008, 02:21 AM
i have only one ruger. i also have six cuts in my hand when i use it. my dad swears by ruger. i swear at my ruger.

OleCodger
December 23, 2008, 07:36 AM
Just got carried away a bit when it came to the word mandatory!! And it was approximately six weeks - two months between sending the form back to Ruger and receiving the box to return it in. And I requested the authorization to return on line after hearing about the recall.

I trust that everyone "read into" the "tongue in cheek" dissertation! I love Ruger and also have a Mark III Competitor with their name stamped on the side that is one shooting son of a gun. I just became really, really tired of all the Ruger bashing, the LCP to be specific, that goes on so thought I'd save the bashers some time and trouble. I really love the little LCP and it has become a daily companion of mine in my right front pocket (sleeping in a Neeisis pocket holster). My only problem is that I sometimes forget that it is even there.

And I do need to clarify one point in my original note......if I had to choose between the 16 gauge and my Little Red Head Wife for protection, I'd choose the Little Red Head any day of the week!!!! She can go from "safe" to "fire" much qucker than the 'Higgins and is much more dependable!!!!!! :uhoh:

Everyone have a great day and a Merry Christmas...........

OleCodger
December 23, 2008, 07:41 AM
That is one heckufa offer.......I'll take you up on that the next time I'm in the Lone Star state! I hope that the Little Red Head is also included in that offer.....she gets mighty testy when left out!!!

Old Fuff
December 23, 2008, 10:08 AM
You know, if that little read head happens to read this thread you might have to move to Texas - or maybe southern Mexico... :what: :evil: :D

CoRoMo
December 23, 2008, 10:33 AM
I'd have to agree. The drop safety issue with Keltecs is well known, and definitely should have been known by Ruger.
When I first heard about and saw the LCP, I figured that Ruger took the design and improved upon it (i.e.-no drop safety problem).
And if Ruger had not known about Keltec's drop issue (there's no way I believe that for one minute), they should have tested their own gun for drop safety once they had a couple prototypes to play with.

I'm a die hard Ruger fan for life. This is just another screw up that I hope they learn from.

Old Fuff
December 23, 2008, 11:19 AM
I'm a die hard Ruger fan for life. This is just another screw up that I hope they learn from.

Remember that Bill Ruger Sr. is no longer doing the designing, and I'm not sure he would have made a polymer pocket pistol in the first place. It wasn't the sort of thing he was interested in. He often copied the exterior looks and cosmetics of other popular firearms, but always changed (and often improved) the interior lockwork. Those earlier guns seldom had mechanical problems.

OleCodger
December 23, 2008, 06:03 PM
If that Little Red Head ever sees this thread, there won't be enough left of me to send to either Texas or Mexico. That little Ruger LCP would look like a cannon when placed beside my remains. That intense stare of hers' could melt a glacier the size of North America. Mind you, I'm not scared of her, I just have LOTS of respect for her and try to keep my distance! She's sorta like having a stick of dynamite with extremely short fuses and caps on both ends............

Old Fuff
December 23, 2008, 06:35 PM
That intense stare of hers' could melt a glacier the size of North America.

Is that what the mean by "Global Warming???" :D

OleCodger
December 23, 2008, 06:36 PM
She wrote the book on global warming!!!!

lsfagan
December 23, 2008, 08:24 PM
Don't worry about getting your RUGER back I shipped mine off last Thursday at around 1600 and got it back today at around 1100 thats pretty quick plus they give you a nice ball cap:what: for the inconvenience I have been to the range today with and as always it 100% reliable:what::what:. I know that is hard to believe but its true.

OleCodger
December 24, 2008, 12:12 AM
Man, that's great news!!! However I really wish that you had not been so positive about it.......afterall, Ruger should have worked over the weekend. That way they could have gotten it back to you in three days instead of five. And just think of all the shootin' you could have done during that extra two days!!! But now the real disappointment is that it shoots perfectly. Are you absolutely sure that there wasn't an FTF, Stovepipe or just any kind of misfire at all? Or maybe it only hit nine X's instead of ten?? Oh, I know, mebbe they sent you the wrong color cap......now there is a possible area that you could really express your Gloom, Doom, Agony and Defeat!!!! Are you sure that Ruger didn't swap clips and send you the clip that should have gone to my proud Ruger owning neighbor in in Arkansas???!!! Did you double check to make sure that you can't place the clip into the weapon backwards??!!

Just anything so that I can bash this entire exercise???!!!

Oh Well, mebbe not.......

By the way....it appears that you are new to the site.......Welcome Aboard and please take all my ranting in stride.......it's all tongue in cheek!!!! I guarantee you that you are among friends and will thoroughly enjoy the site!!!!! We need all the support that we gun lovers can muster right now:) And the Red Head is really a pretty nice gal and definitely pretty..........she's put up with me for nigh unto fifty years...............in spite of my remarks.........she's the best thing that ever happened to me!.......Honey, I hope that you read this one also.......I was just jokin' on all that other stuff that I said about you <:)>



Isfagan.......have a MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!! Maybe there is something in the world to smile about afterall!!!!!!!:D

Old Fuff
December 24, 2008, 12:33 AM
Boy, after all of this I think I'm going to go out and hug the first Ruger I see. I had the pleasure of meeting and discussing guns with the Old Man (Bill Ruger Sr.) and I regret that he never got a chance to read this thread. I think he would have gotten a kick out of it.

basicblur
December 24, 2008, 12:42 AM
Didja notice the box they sent to ship it in? 4 sides…a top…a bottom…corrugated cardboard…
Waaaaait a minute…damn if Ruger hasn’t copied the Kel-Tec box!

Those ********!

OleCodger
December 24, 2008, 12:56 AM
Man, I like that name......would like to watch (or at least try to see) you Qweeeek Straaaaawwww!!!!

Concerning the box, I'm glad you called that to my attention. I was so upset over them shipping it to me all folded and flat that I missed your point......GREAT OBSERVATION!!!.......I actually had to remove the wrapper and unfold that sucker myself.......took me at least 23 seconds. Oh well.............such is life.

Basicblur.......that "blur' with practice may just turn into "did you see that, wanna see it again??!!" MERRY CHRISTMAS ANDA HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!

OleCodger
December 24, 2008, 12:59 AM
Give the first one a hug for me also! Man, I envy you........had I shook (shaken??) hands with The Old Man, I wouldn't have washed that hand for three months!!!!! By the way, I flunked grammar and made a "D" in spelling.....spelled Ruger "Rooger" for 25 years..................

Old Fuff
December 24, 2008, 01:36 AM
He was a fun guy to know, but only if you knew your stuff. Unlike most top gun company presidents (who were bean counters) Bill Ruger knew guns, gun engineering, and gun building – forwards, backwards and any which way. He built his business without borrowing money, and instead used the profits from past success to tool the next one. He always had time to talk to someone that owned one or more of his guns, and listen to what they had to say. At one time he was confined to a wheelchair, and I watched him sit with a very long line of admirers that just wanted to shake his hand, but he would get them talking, and talk they did while the others waited.

On the other hand he could spot pretentious stuffed shirts and phony self-appointed experts a mile away. After a few words he knew what they were and got rid of them.

He also had a high opinion of himself and his own expertise – which was usually justified because he was largely what he thought he was. One time he came down to see me from either Prescott or Phoenix – I forget which. It was a raw, cold February day, but he came anyway because he wanted to see what I thought about what would become the P-85 – his first 9mm double-action pistol, which he hoped the Army might be interested in. I told him he was making a mistake by looking back at the old Walter P-38 lockwork, which was complicated and expensive to make, and suggested he should look at a more simple design that was striker fired. Of course he disagreed, and it was one of the few times I ended being right. He will without question go down in history as being one of the great gun designers of the 20th century. :)

basicblur
December 24, 2008, 01:41 AM
Man, I like that name......would like to watch (or at least try to see) you Qweeeek Straaaaawwww!!!!

Sorry...actually, that name comes from when I was young and (not so?) stupid. A couple of us young burger jockeys got off work 'bout 1 am, and as we were wont to do, decided to see who had the fastest motorcycle (where WAS that cop hiding?)!
It was 'bout 15 degrees, we were so bundled up we couldn't hear anything but the bikes, and as I laughed at my buddy wailing out of sight up the hill after I dusted him (straight pipe, taillight "iffy"), I saw a cop whip into the road headed after him.

"Darn-he's going to be in a heap of trouble,” I thought to myself. As I sat at the stoplight pondering his fate, I thought I heard something beside me, and looked at my feet to see a spotlight bouncing around trying to lock onto me-damn cop car had pulled up beside me!
As I was in the car listening to the radio chatter as they hunted for biker #2 (hard to see at night with that iffy taillight, but you could hear that pipe!), I was repeatedly asked (about my bike) "At bike's fast, ain't it?" I replied, "It's smooth" 'bout 3 times before he gave up (I told ya I wasn't SO stupid).

Anywho...he was asked for a description of the bike they were still searching for, and when it came to color, he told the dispatcher "Hell, I don't know...it was your basic blur"!

Jest kinda stuck after that…

Now maybe if I had that old bike back, I could show you a quick draw!

Old Fuff
December 24, 2008, 01:49 AM
About Bill Ruger...

He was a fun guy to know, but only if you knew your stuff. Unlike most top gun company presidents (who were bean counters) Bill Ruger knew guns, gun engineering, and gun building – forwards, backwards and any which way. He built his business without borrowing money, and instead used the profits from past success to tool the next one. He always had time to talk to someone that owned one or more of his guns, and listen to what they had to say. At one time he was confined to a wheelchair, and I watched him sit with a very long line of admirers that just wanted to shake his hand, but he would get them talking, and talk they did while the others waited.

On the other hand he could spot pretentious stuffed shirts and phony self-appointed experts a mile away. After a few words he knew what they were and got rid of them.

He also had a high opinion of himself and his own expertise – which was usually justified because he was largely what he thought he was. One time he came down to see me from either Prescott or Phoenix – I forget which. It was a raw, cold February day, but he came anyway because he wanted to see what I thought about what would become the P-85 – his first 9mm double-action pistol, which he hoped the Army might be interested in. I told him he was making a mistake by looking back at the old Walter P-38 lockwork, which was complicated and expensive to make, and suggested he should look at a more simple design that was striker fired. Of course he disagreed, and it was one of the few times I ended being right. He will without question go down in history as being one of the great gun designers of the 20th century. :cool:

OleCodger
December 24, 2008, 08:23 AM
Tnx for two mighty interesting stories.........Now I'll admit that each story was somewhat off of my original theme of "Gloom, Doom, Agony and Defeat".. But you fellers know what????? You've (and all the others that took the time to respond) helped me to accomplish exactly what I set out to do......and that was to get a grin or two instead of all the negative stuff that we read about. And I want to thank everyone for that. It's a great big beautiful world out there but Lord knows at times we need a grin or two. (I checked with the Red Head before I made that statement and she agreed......didn't want to say anything to ruffle her feathers. Y'all know how testy she can become at times)...But after all, I was the real winner......I feel that I made some extra friends that I didn't have before and that is a G R E A T feeling!!!

The Red Head and I wish everyone a very Merry Christmas and above all......don't forget the Reason for the season. Without that Reason I'm afraid there wouldn't be too many "grins" out there. Now I have to go get the Red Head a cup of coffee and I'm afraid that she's going to become agitated......I can't ever remember if it's one spoon of sugar and two of creamer or vice-versa!

FoMoGo
December 24, 2008, 08:35 AM
This is what came to mind when I saw the title of this thread... :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK-QIDzTdso


Jim

presspuller
December 24, 2008, 01:47 PM
I figure that Mr. Ruger is spinning in his grave to see what has become of his company today. (or at least the engineering part of it)

OleCodger
December 24, 2008, 07:11 PM
Tnx for the video!!! Actually, I'm afraid that I may have taken a little "poetic license" since that's exactly where I came up with the subject!!! Always enjoyed HeeHaww for some reason. I guess was it because of the corney, homespun, simple minded comedy they displayed and I'm a very simple minded person so we meshed quite well!!!!

kmrcstintn
December 24, 2008, 07:21 PM
sorry to hear about your situation; hearing of another recall is making my faith in Ruger shaky; half of the Ruger P345's that I have shot had feeding problems; then the SR9 gets recalled; and now the LCP gets recalled; the older Ruger semiautos of the previous generation were not the most aesthetically pleasing, but aside from the retrofit of the safety on the P85's Bill Ruger's designs were trouble free; give me a fugly P95 with 'beautification' update any day over the SR9!!!

thankfully they haven't tried to polymerize the frames on their revolvers and put mandatory anitdrop hammer blocks that fail to do as they are designed :eek:

franconialocal
December 25, 2008, 06:15 PM
A few years ago my father gave me a Ruger P89-DC. With a totally open minded view at several brands of weapons out there, and being an avid shooter with a ton of time behind the trigger, I can honestly say (no previous bias) that this weapon was the biggest hunk of crap I've ever owned........

Food for thought.......

mgregg85
December 25, 2008, 06:26 PM
While Bill Ruger was a great gun designer, he wasn't much of a friend to the RKBA cause. I'll stick with the original article in this case, though I do own several other(more original) ruger products.

Supertac45
December 25, 2008, 06:44 PM
Should have bought a Sig .380.

OleCodger
December 25, 2008, 07:17 PM
........missed the entire intent of this tongue in cheek post. I love the LCP, have a Mark III Competitor that I'll put up against anyother brand. We have a Porsche........yes a Porsche.....that is a fun machine to drive and I love it. I know for a fact that it will top 140mph and still has accelerator space left. (By the way, I'm almost 71 years old and still enjoy life). However it has a/c...heater problems that they're still trying to get solved. However would I buy another one tomorrow.......you bet I would. I realize that problems happen....and if the manufacturer stands behind his product, I'm not about to be a gloom, doom, agony and defeatist......good grief, life is to short go go around with a drooping chin, teary eyed attitude and a bashing, hate attitude. Loosen up, the sun will come up again tomorrow and be every bit as bright as it was today. All bashers go ahead and wallow in your misery.........as for me, I'm going to enjoy the trip as I go......problems...yes,........insurmountable.....no. I attempted to save the bashers some time in my original post by leaving blanks for you to fill in. Wanted to make it as easy for you as I could. Apparently that wasn't enough!!

In spite of all the negativism, I truly hope that everyone did let up long enough to enjoy today.....after all, it was (is) Christmas!!!! The stump will still be there tomorrow for you to mount and shout your negative remarks......Scuse me, but I have got to go crank up the Porsche........

don95sml
December 25, 2008, 09:00 PM
Tnx for the video!!! Actually, I'm afraid that I may have taken a little "poetic license" since that's exactly where I came up with the subject!!! Always enjoyed HeeHaww for some reason. I guess was it because of the corney, homespun, simple minded comedy they displayed and I'm a very simple minded person so we meshed quite well!!!!
I have to admit that I didn't watch the video, since I'm one of those still living in the dark ages with dial-up internet. But, didn't it go:
"Gloom, despair, incessant misery. . . If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all." (There are days like that.)

OleCodger
December 25, 2008, 09:45 PM
That's the one.......HeeHaw with Roy Clark and Buck Owens and the whole HeeHaw Gang!

Mike J
December 25, 2008, 11:00 PM
OleCodger-Thx for the thread-I needed a laugh. It's getting late now but I would like to wish you and everyone else on The High Road a Merry Christmas. As far as the original topic-My P-94 in 40 is as reliable as they come I believe however I don't think I'd buy a new product offering from Ruger (or any other manufacturer) till it has been out for about a year. Of course I've always thought the same thing about cars,trucks and other products. If I do buy something that is the latest, greatest & hasn't had time to go through the teething process yet I guess I'd just have to figure that was the gamble I took when I bought it and be glad the company was standing behind their product.

OleCodger
December 26, 2008, 07:23 AM
Tnx for your response........the grin was the whole intent!! I was justa thinkin'.....you know, the government has all this money that they spend on studying what effect belching cows has on the atmosphere and the rings around the moon.......or is it Saturn??!! I wonder if we could get some of that money, mebee say $15.00 or $20.00 and study the corrulation (sp?) between bashers and divorces!!! Now that would be interesting...I may just apply for a USA Government grant. I''m getting excited about this venture!!!! I'll just betcha that Extreme Bashers have an extremely high divorce rate, Mediocre (there I go trying to use big words again) Bashers have a medium rate of divorces, and the Bashers just learning how to Bash have a minimal divorce rate!! Then we could hire some big shot University Professor with a degree in the sciences to come up with a study guide and a course in Non-Bashing that would be mandatory for all potential future bashers (They're easy to identify, they have this "frown wrinkle" just beginning to appear right above their nose). That way we could cut the divorce rate by almost 100 percent and there would be a lot happier bunch of kids out there!! Afterall, besides a brand new shiny Ruger firearm, there is nothing prettier than a child with a smile on his/her face!!! You know, I'm glad you and I thought of that.......we may just be on to something!!!!!!

Now we need to figure a way to get some more government money to fight the ACLU, ACORN and any other organization or people/animal groups that are against Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness!!!

Goooooood Grieeeeef Mike, you just never know what problems one of these threads are going to solve do you!!!!

Have a good weekend and I hope that 2009 is the best year yet for you.....and it will be. Justa keep on lookin' for your share of the wealth....it's about time for it to be spread and I already have a couple of pistols and a new wife picked out.........

chuckusaret
December 26, 2008, 08:42 AM
Never been envolved in a gun recall until I got a Ruger SR9, no problem, but then got the LCP, a problem. This weapon was carried next to/close to my private parts and it had a FWD problem. Hey, I am old but every thing still works and I don't care to lose it to a faulty weapon. The LCP is gone and has been replaced by a NAA 380

OleCodger
December 26, 2008, 06:10 PM
I understand your plight and if that was the problem as I understood it, I also would be mighty concerned about my private parts and would have constantly worn the bullet proof jockey strap 24/7 that I referred to in my original post. After all what male wants to go around singing soprano? However I understood that the issue was when the pistol was dropped on a hard surface such as concrete, rocks, metal or an olecodger's hard head or was being used as a claw hammer driving 16 penney nails. I never thought about if I "dropped' it into my pocket, it might go bang.....now you might be on to something there. I'll personally contact Ruger and see how hard the jeans pocket must be before there is a potential problem. I will also insert "dropping it into blue jeans pocket, ___________ pocket, etc" into my original post to save time in future posts on this matter. Man, had I known that dropping it into a pocket might cause it to go BANG, I'd had the Red Head left off some of that starch!!! I shudder to think of what the consequences may have been. Thanks for the info!!!!! Now that you mentioned it, I do vaguely remember a couple of newscasts over the past couple of months where the LCP's did go bang when being carried in pant pockets. One guy was fumbling around trying to find his car keys and pulled on the wrong "ring". He inadvertently pulled the trigger all the way back the 2 1/2 inches that it takes for it to to BANG. They never did determine what the other fellow was fumbling around trying to find..........................or as far as I know, they haven't. I'm guilty of watching FOX news almost exclusively and you know how pro gun they are........they probably shoved it under the table...........:D

OleCodger
December 26, 2008, 06:20 PM
Feel free (as if you had to have my permission) to pull the plug on this one any time that you see fit. I think it's like a bird with a broken wing......flying in circles. And besides, I have a 58 year old J C Higgins .22 single shot rifle sold by Sears, Roebuck and Co back in 1950 that I need to give a good bashing. It has never failed to fire, always hit where I aimed but I just know one of these days I'm going to have trouble with it and it is about to worry me to death! Think I'll load it, cock it and bang it up against the outhouse door. If it goes bang, I'll report back on another thread. If there is anyone in the outhouse, I'll also report on his reaction...............will attempt not to be too graphic......

It's been fun! :evil:

basicblur
December 26, 2008, 08:16 PM
but I recall seeing an earlier post (don't remember which High Road-probably .org) where a poster said the recall for possibly going off if dropped was BS-claimed the real reason they were recalling 'em was because there were instances of parts breaking-think it was the same thread that had pictures of broken triggers?

Anywho-not something I really want to hear, but since they've (hopefully) fixed whatever the problems were, I don't really care. If the recall was for parts breaking, you'd think the new parts would have been tested more than normal.

'Course, if this did turn out to be the true story and it ever got out, certain LCP haters heads' would just explode! :what:

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
December 26, 2008, 09:13 PM
Ruger stinks. Badly. I guess we all learn, one person at a time. But good luck.

krs
December 26, 2008, 09:55 PM
What happened to the sabre toothed tiger?

OleCodger
December 27, 2008, 10:38 AM
You mean...like when the Red Head goes from "safe" to "fire" and then pulls both triggers at the same time? If so, that is quite an explosion!!! I've only seen her do that twice and it wasn't pretty sights. One time was when I'd just used the car payment to buy a new Ruger and I won't go into the second time here....would probably start a new bashing party....I can already hear the thundering herd in the background!!!!!!!!

By the way, looking forward to the weekend.......gun show in Little Rock. My biggest problem right now is to figure out a place to drop off the Red Head prior to the show. I've managed to save up some fun money and if she discovers that fact, I'm afraid there would be a third explosion to report on.......

I had decided already that if I bought a Ruger at the show, I wasn't going to admit it here on this thread....was going to say Colt, Springfield, Taurus, Glock, Charles Daley....anything but Ruger. Then I got to searching other posts and all of the aforementioned brand names have bashers/basherlerletts also so might as well go ahead and admit Ruger!!!

Cloudy in Arkansas but still a beautiful day!

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