Question about Century Yugo SKS


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cbrgator
December 23, 2008, 04:54 AM
Are these quality? Is $200 a fair price?

Here is a quote regarding their condition off the website.

RIFLES ARE RATED AS NRA SURPLUS GOOD BUT SHOW SOME DENTS AND DINGS OF COURSE AS WELL AS SOME WEAR ON THE BORES.

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KC0QGL
December 23, 2008, 05:07 AM
Yes it is. Thats what I payed for my Yugo 59/66A1.

WardenWolf
December 23, 2008, 05:21 AM
The Yugo SKS is considered to be one of the best. $200 is a very good price for one.

armoredman
December 23, 2008, 06:01 AM
Yes - BUT, if it's "shooter" grade, it MAY have a burnt gas valve. Numrich sells new gas valves. The bores are not chrome lined, may have some minor pitting from corrosive ammo, look if you can. If you can get "unissued" grade, like I did many years ago, great rifle. At $200, even a shooter grade would not be bad at all, in today's market.

Thin Black Line
December 23, 2008, 12:27 PM
Wasn't long ago when $250 got you excellent to unissued.

cbrgator
December 23, 2008, 02:47 PM
Well they changed condition status on the website. Now in the description it says...

UNFORTUNATELY SOME HAVE CLEANING RODS AND SOME DO NOT. IF YOU WANT TO BE SURE TO GET A CLEANING ROD AND THE BEST ONE POSSIBLE THEN ASK US TO DO A HAND SELECT AND WE WILL CERTAINLY DO THAT FOR AN ADDITIONAL $10.00. AGAIN THESE ARE NOT PREMIUM GRADE RIFLES.

Still worth $200???

Thin Black Line
December 23, 2008, 03:06 PM
I would say that is an honest non-gouging price in today's market.

j_charles
December 23, 2008, 03:43 PM
The local Big 5 here had a Yugo 59/66 for $399!!:eek: I'd jump on $200 if I found it!

tasco 74
December 24, 2008, 02:50 PM
how about a century arms ak a friend of mine was asking about one of those about an hour ago....

cbrgator
December 25, 2008, 10:27 AM
What makes me most weary is that it says "Some wear on the bores." How much wear can the SKS take? I don't want to drop the dollars on this and it only last 1000 rounds, you know?

Merry Christmas.

Almond27
December 25, 2008, 10:39 AM
A Yugo SKS can take alot of wear, as for the bores I wouldn't worry too much if the bore is a little dark. I have heard they are still good shooters with dark bores.

cbrgator
December 25, 2008, 10:49 AM
Well, I can't see the rifle in person. It's from Classic Arms. It just says there is wear on the bores.

IndianaBoy
December 25, 2008, 06:50 PM
Milsurp rifles can have bores that look like sewer pipes and deliver acceptable accuracy. If the rifing is strong it should be fine. I think you will find it to be a good shooter rifle. 1k rounds won't wear out the bore.

NC-Mike
December 25, 2008, 11:15 PM
I'm pretty sure they will be very rough rifles for 200.00

As long as your eyes are open and you don't expect something real nice, it'll be OK.

bill larry
December 26, 2008, 01:14 AM
I have three Yugo SKS rifles, two from Samco that are unissued and one from Century I bought for 99 bucks locally about two years ago.

The Century gun has a nasty ugly sewer-like bore, and had a cracked stock. I'm sure it was a bottom of the line condition gun from them but I bought it locally, so who knows? It shoots awesome despite the crappy pipe and is dead reliable. Just harder to clean.

Smokey Joe
December 26, 2008, 01:19 AM
CBR Gator--The price on SKS's seems to be going up fairly rapidly--though I hope you don't plan to send your kid to college on the profits from one--ain't gonna happen--and $200 seems about a fair price for a "shooter" in today's market.

Gone are the days when every gun show had at least one vendor with a barrel of SKS's, your choice, 85 bucks.

I'd spend the extra $10 and get hand-select, not for the cleaning rod, which is steel and will just wear the bore some more (use a plastic-coated rod) but for the increase in quality.

The bore still won't be pristine, but the rifle should be better than minute-of-pie-plate at 100 yd.

There are a lot of after-market things you can do to an SKS to make it less inaccurate (notice I did NOT say, "make it accurate;" a target rifle it will never be) but since you're dealing with a Yugo, you have to play the BATFE's game of replacing a bunch of parts if you change anything at all. Do a search on SKS's on THR here, and the whole discussion on 922r, I think it's called, will come up. That's the BATFE's rule on only using just so many imported parts in a rebuild of certain C&R rifles, of which the Yugo SKS is one. It's a silly rule, IMHO, but to stay legal you have to play ball with 'em.

Tapco makes a parts kit for the Yugo that includes enough Made in USA parts to legalize anything else you might do to it. I got one; haven't done anything with it yet--some other member will surely chime in with their results on installing all those parts.

Many shooters just leave the Yugo unaltered, and live with such accuracy as the gun has. If your rifle won't fire semi-auto, the gas valve may be turned off (rotate it 1/4 turn) or it just may be worn and leaking (replace it as Armored Man suggested.) BATFE doesn't mind if you do that, BTW.

cbrgator
December 26, 2008, 03:37 AM
Well if whatever I replace on it was with American parts, wouldn't that always keep it 922r compliant? Do I need the ability to purchase foreign parts for it or are American parts adequate?

Smokey Joe
December 26, 2008, 12:41 PM
on 922r, nor do I play one on TV. As I understand it, FWIW, if you replace even one major part on the Yugo SKS, you have to get it down to less than 10 of the major parts on the BATFE's list.

American parts are not only adequate, they are required, according to BATFE. The only bad thing I see about the restriction, is that if you want to modify the Yugo SKS at all (beyond minor things like a new rear sight,) you have to do a major overhaul.

Once you have the required number of American-made parts on the Yugo, you can replace or remove anything else you please.

NC-Mike
December 26, 2008, 06:29 PM
Century says they are getting more 59/66 Yugo SKS rifles in excellent condition soon.

Price will be about 220.00

t3rmin
December 28, 2008, 08:38 PM
Good. Their website has been pretty static for a while now...

cbrgator
December 28, 2008, 09:38 PM
Century says they are getting more 59/66 Yugo SKS rifles in excellent condition soon.

Price will be about 220.00

Only dealers can order those.

armoredman
December 28, 2008, 10:29 PM
Ifyou change it to a non-importable condition, then you go ten-or-less. If you swap the stock for a Monte Carlo style, (GAH!), it woul be legal. Most say you can simply remove the bayonet and grenade launcher and be legal to do most mods.

Matrix187
December 28, 2008, 10:34 PM
I like Norinco SKSs alot more than Yugos just because theyre lighter, have a chrome lined barrel, and non of the gas port stuff to deal with.:evil:

NC-Mike
December 28, 2008, 10:56 PM
Only dealers can order those.

Not if you have a C&R my friend, than they ship to your door or they can also ship to a FFL.

doc540
December 28, 2008, 11:03 PM
Classic Arms is a straight up company run by good folks.

And it's two hundred dollars, man.

What does two hundred bucks buy you these days? Not much.

Just snag it, be happy, and go to work on it while you burn thru a bunch of cheap Wolf ammo.:)

piratelooking@40
December 29, 2008, 01:09 AM
Classic Arms is a straight up company run by good folks.

And it's two hundred dollars, man.

What does two hundred bucks buy you these days? Not much.

Just snag it, be happy, and go to work on it while you burn thru a bunch of cheap Wolf ammo.


This.

NC-Mike
December 29, 2008, 08:23 AM
Classic Arms is a straight up company run by good folks.

And it's two hundred dollars, man.

What does two hundred bucks buy you these days? Not much.

Just snag it, be happy, and go to work on it while you burn thru a bunch of cheap Wolf ammo.


Well its not really 200 dollars... If you can get a better example of a given firearm for 40 dollars more or 60 dollars more than that figure should be the consideration. You can grab one of those 200 dollar jobs and get a rifle with a sewer-pipe for a bore and a blown out gas valve that won't inspire very much pride of ownership.

Always buy the very best you can afford and you'll never be disappointed. There plenty of people who get a case of buyers remorse to go along with "great deal" they got.

Not true in every case but it applies more times than not.

Thin Black Line
December 29, 2008, 10:14 AM
What does two hundred bucks buy you these days? Not much.

A good amount of gasoline (and stabil) before it goes back up to $5/gal.

A good amount of rice before it goes back up to $1/lb.

jjohnson
December 29, 2008, 11:07 AM
Oh, yes.

I paid $200 for my Yugo five or six years ago, and that was either new or nearly new with an arsenal refurb. Packed in Cosmoline with serial record blank for issue, so I'm guessing it was test fired only.

Anyway, yes, if it's in VG condition or better, it's an excellent price.

cbrgator
December 29, 2008, 03:43 PM
Well its apparently in very used condition. That's why I'm still torn.

cracked butt
December 29, 2008, 04:37 PM
My advice from experience with Century:

Don't buy anything from them that they grade at 'good condition' buy at the very minimum their 'excellent condition' grading.

Century tends to overgrade their stuff, a 'good' condition rifle is likely to have a badly damaged stock and a completely worn out or pitted bore, with any luck none of the other parts will be bent, broken, or rusted up in that condition.

Century's 'Very good' condition usually means a good stock and badly damaged bore, or vice versa.

I'll still buy 'excellent' condition stuff from them, but only after careful inspection, and it has to be a really good example at that.

Almond27
December 29, 2008, 05:10 PM
you have to take in account these are all opinions, for example I was in the market for an AK before and after the election. I started doing research and alot of what I saw was Oh don't buy Century anything they're junk assembled by a homeless guy off the street. Well I informed myself of what made people consider their stuff junk and went and started looking at WASR10/63 probably #1 on the junk list and I found one that seemed to not have the common problems, and so far its ran like a dream. Sorry about the rant but some people's opinions are simply that. You can't listen to people all the time who think they are all of a sudden experts when they get behind the keyboard. My opinion if want it go for it, if you get a lemon by chance I'm sure Classic will let you send it back. /Rant off

cracked butt
December 29, 2008, 05:48 PM
Well I informed myself of what made people consider their stuff junk and went and started looking at WASR10/63 probably #1 on the junk list and I found one that seemed to not have the common problems, and so far its ran like a dream.

I would imagine the vast majority of the WASR's run well as a AK is a very difficult rifle to screw up (there are children in parts of the world that make serviceable AKs using hand tools and scrap metal) yet somehow Century still finds ways to do it. A friend of mine (yes he really exists and sometimes posts here, PM me if you want his screen name) actually had to have one sent back because it wouldn't chamber a round. The thing shoots great now- I've shot it a few times.

At least AKs are hard to screw up, ask around about Century built CETMEs and Garands if you really want to find out how Century got the reputation of having poorly trained monkeys putting their rifles together.

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