Remington .223 Pump?


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sbarkowski
December 23, 2008, 12:01 PM
I saw a remington pump action .223 with Knoxx pistol grip stock that takes AR mags in the store the other day. I didnt catch the model number. Just wondering if anyone knew anything about them? Kinda looked like an AR of sorts just in a pump action. I dont have a licence to own an AR so this looks like a decent compromise.

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benEzra
December 23, 2008, 12:05 PM
Remington 7615 Tactical.

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_7615_tactical.asp

They also make a version with a straight stock.

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_7615.asp

sbarkowski
December 23, 2008, 12:21 PM
Yep thats the one, thank you. Anyone have one of these that can comment on its performance?

benEzra
December 23, 2008, 12:53 PM
Here's a couple of posts from the THR archives; there may be more. They look like neat little rifles.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=5161079&postcount=20

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=394202

jackdanson
December 23, 2008, 01:09 PM
I dont have a licence to own an AR so this looks like a decent compromise.

huh? Canada maybe?

TexasRifleman
December 23, 2008, 01:12 PM
Anyone have one of these that can comment on its performance?

Don't own one but a friend of mine does, and I've shot it a lot. Very nice shooter. He says it's been utterly reliable.

Fantastic rifle from all I can see and they are quite popular with folks that for whatever reason can't have an AR style rifle.

MADDOG
December 23, 2008, 01:16 PM
If they made the 7615 in .308 I would buy some.

sbarkowski
December 23, 2008, 01:22 PM
Yes jackdanson, Canada is home for me. Need a restricted licence to own any pistol or firearm based on the AR platform or anything full auto. Cannot use them to hunt with must only be used at a licenced range. Not worth it to me. Thanks everyone for the replys. I did a search once I was told the model number. Have all the info I need. Think this will be a nice addition to the family. Fairly heavy little sucker for its size though from what I noticed. It will make a great small game/predator bush gun.

MAKster
December 23, 2008, 01:24 PM
The Remington 7600 synthetic is basically the same thing and comes in .308.

athensguy
December 23, 2008, 01:29 PM
Seems to me the 7615 is just the .223 version of the 7600, and the 15 was added because it can use AR-15 mags.

expvideo
December 23, 2008, 04:25 PM
Sounds like it might even be legal in California. Wait. Probably not.

athensguy
December 23, 2008, 04:29 PM
Does a detachable magazine alone disqualify for CA?

TexasRifleman
December 23, 2008, 04:47 PM
Does a detachable magazine alone disqualify for CA?

Yes but I am pretty sure I saw a conversion kit for these Remingon pumps to make the mag "fixed".

There is some law, and I don't pretend to be an expert on CA law, that if the magazine removal takes a "tool" then it's OK so lots of folks sell mag releases that you can push with the tip of a bullet but not your finger.

sectional_density
December 23, 2008, 05:03 PM
If they made the 7615 in .308 I would buy some.

The Remington 7600 synthetic is basically the same thing and comes in .308.

I've thought about getting the 7615 too, since it takes AR mags. Now a pump .308 that took M1A mags would be even sweeter.

expvideo
December 23, 2008, 05:05 PM
Yes but I am pretty sure I saw a conversion kit for these Remingon pumps to make the mag "fixed".
AKA "loophole" (I speak a little commie)

TexasRifleman
December 23, 2008, 05:06 PM
AKA "loophole"

Following the law as written is never a loophole :)

telebob
December 23, 2008, 05:08 PM
The Rem 7600 and 7615 are perfectly legal in the PRK.

waterhouse
December 23, 2008, 05:10 PM
I don't own one, but I've shot one a bit. Nice guns, and if you are used to pumping a shotgun they are pretty fast to run as well.

I have tried to justify buying one, but with a stack of ARs in the safe it just seems like a waste. If I couldn't own an AR I'd get one in a heartbeat.

Dynasty
December 23, 2008, 06:23 PM
These pump rifles have really caught my eye. What other manufacturers makes these types of firearms? Any in 7.62x39? Thanks for your input.

lipadj46
December 23, 2008, 10:07 PM
Well the M14 is legal in CA with a muzzle break that would be my rifle of choice but I assume this rifle is CA legal as it is not a semi auto.

benEzra
December 23, 2008, 10:42 PM
These pump rifles have really caught my eye. What other manufacturers makes these types of firearms? Any in 7.62x39? Thanks for your input.
Someone (probably Century) imports a pump-action AK derivative for those in jurisdictions who don't allow the little people to own semiautos with protruding handgrips. It's called the PAR-1 and takes regular AK mags.

http://www.bowersweapons.com/par1a.jpg

monkyboy1975
December 23, 2008, 10:46 PM
Those 7615s are sweet, too bad they only come in .223. But then again they do have ten round mags for the 7600. 10 rounds in a 30-06 pump, thats what I'm talkin about:D

mljdeckard
December 24, 2008, 01:49 AM
I grew up on my dad's 760 in .257 Roberts. It made me giggle a little bit when the 7615 came out a few years ago and everyone was acting like it was new. (I think my dad's is 50 years old.) I would actually love to bump into one in .243 or .308 in a pawn shop.

There are aftermarket mags, but be careful. I hunted with a friend many years ago who took out a 10 rounder for his 7600 in .06, and when the moment of truth came, it failed to feed.

expvideo
December 24, 2008, 10:52 AM
Following the law as written is never a loophole
You missed my point. I was making fun of anti-gunners and being sarcastic.

rodregier
December 24, 2008, 02:21 PM
Keep in mind that in Canada the available magazines for the 7615 will be somewhat limited by Federal law. Magazines that can fit a semi-auto centrefire long gun are limited to 5 rounds, pistol mags are limited to 10 rounds. Some bright vendor came out with a 10-round AR15 *pistol* magazine that is legal since it was designed, manufactured and stamped from scratch for such usage. So, you could use those 10-round pistol magazines in the 7615 or your restricted AR15 pattern rifle in Canada.

{Big grin}

It doesn't have to make sense, it's (Canadian) gov't policy.

thunder173
January 5, 2009, 11:42 PM
I have an older 760 in .308, ( for about 30+ years now.) I use the ten rounders with it and it puts rounds down range and on target if I am doing my part. The 10 rounders are hit and miss,..the ones that work,..I keep,...the ones that don't,....they go bye bye. I have several that work well, some needed some tweaking though,...all from Triple K. Been looking at the 7615 for the bride... ;) ,..can almost justify it, except for that gd awful high price. I find one at the right price though,...it'll likely follow me home.

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