An old man's 9mm


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tack
December 24, 2008, 11:51 PM
I'm new here. To let you know where I come from, I shot .22 target pistol in competition. That was years ago, Long story cut short, I recently re-discovered the fun of shooting. The long barrel High Standard remains a better shot than I am.

I thought I might like a 9mm pistol and can't seem to find what I want. I like long barreled hand guns for the same reasons they are such fun in 357mag revolvers; they aim and shoot easier than pocket guns. Even my ol' 22 has a seven inch barrel. I guess I'm looking for a larger version of my favorite gun.

I've asked around and get the same story. "You can't get there from here. It doesn't exist." I understand that all guns are a compromise. All the 9mm pistols seem compromised to be concealed carry guns. That is the wrong compromise for me. It looks like I'm doomed to shoot long barreled revolvers unless I buy a custom gun. What I can't understand is why there aren't long, easy and accurate nines on the market.

Please tell me it ain't so. Is there a 9mm copied on a 1911 competition model?
Tack

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rbernie
December 24, 2008, 11:55 PM
You can get 5" 1911's chambered in 9mm; I have seen no commercial long-slide versions. You might also find a full-size 9mm like the Beretta 92F to be of your liking.

Sig makes a longslide P226 in 9mm, if I recall correctly.

PattonTime
December 25, 2008, 12:07 AM
Smith&Wesson makes a model 952 in longslide it cost about $1775.00
on GunBroker though. I have recently bought a Kimber SS Target 9mm and a Witness match in 38 Super the Witness shoots better then I do and at $500.00
for a S/A auto is one heck of a deal in my opinion, it shoots just as well as my Kimber and at barely half the price. For myself I have found that the secret for me is single action only Autos work better , it maybe my long history with revolvers.
Have Fun
PattonTime

Jim Watson
December 25, 2008, 12:10 AM
As rbernie says, there are several sources of 1911 pattern 9mms on the market, some set up as real target pistols for PPC and the like. Springfield and Les Baer make 5" and 6" longslide guns for the event.
Sig-Sauer makes the P226 X-Five and X-Six target guns.
There are a few shops accurizing the GI Beretta for Service Pistol matches alongside the 1911s.

Kind of expensive, a Baer PPC Open Class 6" is $2340 and none of the others accurate enough to compare with a good revolver is enough less to matter, maybe more.

LightningMan
December 25, 2008, 12:30 AM
Here's a 9mm, 8" barreled Luger;
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=118278104
If you want to spend a lot of money for a "real old man's 9mm". LM

XDShooter07
December 25, 2008, 12:37 AM
In the auto flavor I think you'll get a lot of suggestions for everyone's favorite brand of 1911 in 9mm. Some companies make a long slide version. Other decent choices would be one of the full size CZ's or a Browning high power or a Beretta 92 or 90-two. The glock 34, XD tactical or XDm, and M&P Long slide are also good choices for target autos.

As for revolvers, someone can correct me if I'm wrong here but couldn't he get any long barreled offering in .38/.357 and have cylinder and slide work the gun over to take 9mm with moon clips?

Mr_Rogers
December 25, 2008, 12:43 AM
There can only be one 9mm to treat a disease like yours - a NIB Walther P38/P1.
All of the modern "wunderguns" are all well and good but, when you feel that you have got to hold a classic in your hands, it takes that little bit more.

I would prescribe one of the unused German police issue guns with the aluminum frame - make sure it has the hexagonal steel reinforcing pin above the forward trigger guard.

Cheap to buy, cheap to shoot and when the young whippersnappers say "What's that your shooting" you can give them that long steady look.

Edit for comment.
The guns were put in this case, a Makita drill case, as a demonstration for LE training. The message was to not trust anything, even if it looks innocent.

benderx4
December 25, 2008, 01:24 AM
Hk p30L

marv
December 25, 2008, 01:49 AM
Glock G34

1SOW
December 25, 2008, 02:57 AM
Cz 75s are 4 3/4"
I believe the Australian version of the 'Shadow' is over 5"
STI makes longer barrel high cap 9s for steel shooting---very pricey

gb6491
December 25, 2008, 04:24 AM
The CZ 75 Tactical Sport (http://www.cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=69) has a 5.4 in.
barrel.

The FEG P9L (http://www.ssmedwi.com/P9L.htm) has a 6 in. barrel.

Regards,
Greg

toivo
December 25, 2008, 05:04 AM
Another vote for the Beretta 92:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a225/tisfortomi/sg/beretta92.gif

Kind of Blued
December 25, 2008, 05:42 AM
Glock G34

Or better yet, a Glock 17L (6" barrel).

http://remtek.com/arms/glock/model/9/17l/17l.gif

BHP FAN
December 25, 2008, 05:46 AM
+1 Wather P38/P1.Or you could go all classy,and get a Browning Hi-Power.

RON in PA
December 25, 2008, 06:52 AM
BHP
Beretta 92
Glock 34

notorious
December 25, 2008, 06:58 AM
Glock 34 is the only dedicated long slide 9mm with comp features built in and at a decent price. You can get something fancier like a Smith TSW Custom Shop jobbie but expect to pay double or more for it.

The other 5" guns, like the Beretta or Smith are all regular service weapons without the special features to make it more shootable.

The Glock 17L is discontinued in favor of the G34.

Dr.Rob
December 25, 2008, 07:34 AM
Sounds like you want a Sig P210, a bit pricier (like $2500) than a custom longslide 9mm 1911, but one of THE finest 9's EVER made.

http://www.p210.com/

notorious
December 25, 2008, 07:50 AM
Good point, the Sig210 is an awesome gun but they are hard as all tarnation to find!

Thunder496
December 25, 2008, 07:57 AM
+1 for the Glock 17L

The Glock 17L is discontinued in favor of the G34.

I think they make a 3rd gen version now seems like I have seen them on gunbroker

also Ruger still makes a Blackhawk single action revolver in .357/.38/9mm convertible. It has interchangeable cylinders one in 357 mag/38 spl and one chambered in 9mm

DRYHUMOR
December 25, 2008, 08:15 AM
You may look into several that offer threaded barrels.
Have a weighted cylinder fabricated to go onto the front. This may allow you to have the weight forward you are used to, should you find a shorter barreled pistol you like.

atblis
December 25, 2008, 11:03 AM
Witness Match. For a beater target gun, can't do much better for the price.
http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/119286000/119286899/pix1217570828.jpg

S&W Longslide 952. Not cheap, but usually very very accurate.
http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson/upload/images/firearms/170274_large.jpg


There's a longslide M&P out.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/mp-9mm-long-slide-tm.jpg


CZ SP01 or a 75B or a 75B SA are all decent target guns. Could go with the Tacsport but more $$$.
http://www.cz-usa.com/data/productimg/main069.png


STI as was mentioned. They have a long slide 9mm
http://www.stiguns.com/guns/Targetmaster/images/Targetmaster06-main.jpg

SIG X5. $$$ again.
http://www.horsholm-pistol.dk/photogallery/SIG_P226_X5.jpg

Sig 210 sport. Not cheap.
http://www.manurhin.de/bilder/5normal.jpg

RogersPrecision
December 25, 2008, 12:22 PM
Here is a 6" 9x19mm.
Very soft shooting!
:D

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z228/pistolwrench19/2-21.jpg

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z228/pistolwrench19/3-24.jpg

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z228/pistolwrench19/5-20.jpg

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z228/pistolwrench19/7-11.jpg

speedsix
December 25, 2008, 01:13 PM
Check out a Star Super B. Stars are often very accurate and not too expensive.

I just picked up a nice Super B to replace my aging "B" that made in WWII. The Super B is a nice gun that gets no mention because it is not made any more.

It is a 1911 style pistol with a 5" bbl but it is slim and has a nice trigger. They feel great in the hand and for some reason are more fun to shoot then most of the guns I have ever owned in my life. They are one of those guns that are better than the sum of the parts. It has something special for whatever reason.

They are sort of a poor man's SIG 210. I paid $300 for a lightly used one. A few years ago they could be had for less than $200 but now the prices are going up.

Coronach
December 25, 2008, 01:53 PM
I would go with the original 'wondernine', the Browning Hi-Power. It may not have a long barrel, but it is a full-size gun, and is an absolute cadillac to shoot.

Mike

Walkalong
December 25, 2008, 02:52 PM
Here is a 6" 9x19mm.
Very soft shooting! :D
He's killing me again with those pics. :D

Very, very nice!!!!!!!!! Drooling........

armoredman
December 25, 2008, 03:48 PM
Nice! Anymore lightening cuts and parts will fall off. I like the reverse golfball slide gripping surfaces.

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