Any love for the 38 Super?


December 26, 2008, 01:13 AM
I don't have one, only fired one, a Llama, many years ago, but this cartridge has always fascinated me for some obscure reason, and I think it is way underutilized. Any thoughts, other than "Aw, shut yer pie hole!":rolleyes::what:

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December 26, 2008, 01:23 AM
I think the Super is a great cartridge. Commercial ammo runs mild to potent & the same capability is available rolling your own. I've had good results pushing 125gr. hard-cast LRN at lower-end charges with HS-6.

While my 9mm 1911 is reliable enough, odds are better with the Super since the weapon was designed around a cartridge this length. The Super is available in everything from 1911's, S&W revolvers, to EAA Witness pistols, and a few others I'm sure I forgot or don't know.


Cocked & Locked
December 26, 2008, 01:25 AM
I like the Super .38's...don't have a Colt one, but have one RIA (had 3) and one Springfield Armory. They are fun to load for, carry, and shoot!

December 26, 2008, 02:07 AM
I like the 38 super a lot myself. I have a SA 1911-A1 in green that's a blast to shoot. Lots of different loads for the round from heavy pin loads to nice light practice loads. A very versatile round in my opinion.

December 26, 2008, 02:17 AM
I like 'em old blue Colts with the walnut stock .38 Supers.


December 26, 2008, 02:42 AM
I bought a Witness Match two weeks ago so far so good , I also have a bid in on a Colt on an Auction site.
Who knows !!!
It all started when I bought a whole passel of reloading supplies from the widow of a fellow that passed away. It included about a 1000 new nickel plated
R/P cases in Super and was just the excuse I needed to start up with a new caliber.I also got mucho 220 Swift stuff but that will have to wait till this spring as the local indoor range doesn't like 220 Swift :evil:

December 26, 2008, 03:11 AM
I like them. I found one at our local gun shop. RIA Nickel in .38 Super for $450.

I might see if I can find one in 9mm. 9mm +p is probably about as potent as the currently underloaded commercial .38 super

December 26, 2008, 05:44 AM
I've got one and really like it, just traded some rifle ammo for some +P ammo. Curious to see it work.

Very accurate round, recoils not bad, probably shoot it a lot more than my .45

December 26, 2008, 09:50 AM
Use to see alot of the 1911 38supers south of the border. orchidhunter

December 26, 2008, 09:56 AM
Was it the cartridge case length that kept it from being as pupular as it should be, or the old headspace issue that gave it the rep of inaccuracy? As I love to handload, this becomes more intriguing.

December 26, 2008, 12:07 PM
I ordered a Les Baer .38 on election day. Should be in around the Super Bowl. It will be my second Super, and I'm having a hard time waiting.


December 26, 2008, 12:09 PM
Two .38 Supers. A Springfield and a Colt. Great caliber!

Mrs. Armoredman
December 26, 2008, 12:21 PM
Walkalong, Very nice pistols. Do you shoot competion?

Cocked & Locked. What is you gun sitting on in the first two pics? The grips on all your guns are really nice looking. It ads class to your guns. Well done sirs.

December 26, 2008, 12:25 PM
Must be a family thing?

Happy Holidays.

December 26, 2008, 12:36 PM
Do you shoot competion?
No. Not pistols anyway. I just like to shoot them. I picked up the "outdated" Springfield right when a competitor sold it off. It is sweeeeeeeet. :D

I updated the Aimpoint and put the old one on my 9MM AR (

I put different grips on it and put the Nighthawk grips that came on it on the Colt. Looks better that way, to me anyway.

December 26, 2008, 12:38 PM
LOVE'EM and have a few ;
Para-Ordnance Custom Hi-Cap with Red-Dot;

A EAA WItness Elite Match in 9mm/38Super;

And a S&W 627-4 , 8 shot .38Super,full moon reloads , factory removeable Comp;

I've used them for IPSC/IDPA/Bowling Pins and HD --- the .38Super is my 2nd favorite -- right after 10MM :what:

December 26, 2008, 12:40 PM
How does that 627-4 shoot? They get me drooling whenever I see one.

December 26, 2008, 12:46 PM
Hiya W ,
The S&W shoots Super !!!
With my reloads , at 25 yards rested , I get true 2" groups with 8 rds. ----last year , God smiled on me and I scored this revolver off the Net for $550 !!!! I have been offered $1300 for it the week after I bought it --- BUT -- it's a Super Super and I am keeping it !!!!!

Happy New Year to you and yours.

December 26, 2008, 02:15 PM
God smiled on me and I scored this revolver off the Net for $550 Yes he did. Awesome deal.... :)

December 26, 2008, 03:17 PM
.38 Super (Super Comp actually- the rimless .38 Super) is huge in the USPSA Open game. They do load it up significantly hotter than most factory loadings in order to make Major power factor.

December 26, 2008, 03:18 PM
I have a Witness Elite Match in 38 Super, it is an awesome gun, I just ordered a Match in .45 today, oh ya.

December 26, 2008, 05:42 PM
Always loved the Colt Custom Shop glossy stainless 38 Supers.. but wow are they spendy.

An original from the 30's would be cool too.

Hi-cap Witness can be had on the cheap if you just like the caliber.

December 26, 2008, 06:12 PM
All of the Open-Class IPSC shooters I know are running guns chambered in .38 Super. Seems to be a pretty standard choice for Open guns.

I've fired a couple of them, and found the round extremely easy to control.

December 26, 2008, 07:57 PM
i've hemmed and hawed over a Ccolt "Bright Stainless" .38 Super because I once had a Python that was bright stainless and a real pain to keep it looking good.

But the RIA nickel plate looks like a near perfect plating job and I know that nickel is easier to live with. So are nickelplated RIA pistols still available?

'Cause I think I NEED one...

"Use to see alot of the 1911 38supers south of the border"

Yeah, still do. Something about the laws not letting people own any bigger calibers.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
December 26, 2008, 08:12 PM
Aw, shut your piehole! :D Seriously, I've always wanted a .38 super or 9x23 pistol, but I haven't bitten just yet. Probably would have by now on one of the Tanfoglio versions, were it not for the terrible reputation of EAA customer service.

December 26, 2008, 08:18 PM
THe only Super experience that I have:

Winchester Silvertips out of a STAR in 9mm Largo that
shot the .38 Super just fine.

.38 Special
December 26, 2008, 08:26 PM
I had a blued Colt 1911 in .38 Super once. Decent gun, fine caliber. Still have more than a thousand rounds sitting around. I hope the @#$! who stole it shot himself with it.

After I win the lottery I'm going to get another one; engraved and nickel plated with Mexican eagles carved into ivory grips. I'm not one for pimp guns but that's a classic version...

December 26, 2008, 09:32 PM
Use to see alot of the 1911 38supers south of the border. orchidhunter

That is because civilians are barred there from owning anything chambered in a "military" cartridge. So some of the less common calibers are popular.

I have 2 guns in 38 Super. A Rock Island GI and a Taurus PT38. I really like the round. Not being a reloader I haven't yet seen it's true potential though.

Cocked & Locked
December 27, 2008, 12:04 AM
Cocked & Locked. What is you gun sitting on in the first two pics?

A goat skin

December 27, 2008, 05:48 PM
The Super .38 is one of my all-time favorites. It's been too long since I had one, but hopefully that will change eventually. My nicest set-up was a Colt Combat Commander with an extra 9mm. barrel and magazine. Surprisingly enough, the gun shot pretty much to the same POI in both calibers.

December 27, 2008, 06:51 PM
yes, I love the super.My favorite part is the indignant responces you get from 357sig fans when you say it(357 sig) reinvented the wheel.
I currently have 2 a Kimber Stainless Target and Taurus PT38S.
Woofersinc when you do reload get some Hodgdon Longshot it makes supers purr.

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